F***ing eBay again

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Spare tyre

9,537 posts

130 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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xuy said:
Well hopefully I am not tempting fate by saying something positive about eBay, well actually PayPal.

I sold an Iphone 6 plus, locked to O2, at the beginning on the month.

Saturday get a Paypal, item significantly not as described.

The reason:- the phone is locked to O2 and therefore the buyer cannot use it.

Before responding I phoned PayPal for advise. To my amazement I got a UK call centre, explained about the dispute and asked for advise.

His immediate response was that the claim was ridiculous,a put me on hold.

A few minutes later he confirmed that he had reviewed the case and rules in my (the seller's) favour as the item was as described.

Result,
you must be a troll, ive never heard of any sensible decision coming out of this lot wink

Casa1862

1,072 posts

165 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Buyer can appeal and ebay will flip flop and normally side with the buyer, likely to make a different excuse. Hope I'm wrong in this case but that's my experience of ebay.

xuy

1,116 posts

154 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Casa1862 said:
Buyer can appeal and ebay will flip flop and normally side with the buyer, likely to make a different excuse. Hope I'm wrong in this case but that's my experience of ebay.
As I said I hope I am not tempting fate.

If they decide to appeal via eBay you can guarantee that they will rule in favour of the buyer!

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

174 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Casa1862 said:
Buyer can appeal and ebay will flip flop and normally side with the buyer, likely to make a different excuse. Hope I'm wrong in this case but that's my experience of ebay.
^This. Ebay is a great place to buy, especially if you are a scammer. However it is not a great place to sell, unless you insist on cash on collection for any item of significant value.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

163 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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I think its a lot to do with the items that you're selling on eBay, selling electronics will probably attract the scamming sort. I sell practical items, usually bought by engineers and it is very rare that I find a nightmare customer. I'm sure I will have been scammed at some point but that is unfortunately part of life. Luckily 99.9% of people seem to be honest.

spants

1,053 posts

227 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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xuy said:
Well hopefully I am not tempting fate by saying something positive about eBay, well actually PayPal.

I sold an Iphone 6 plus, locked to O2, at the beginning on the month.

Saturday get a Paypal, item significantly not as described.

The reason:- the phone is locked to O2 and therefore the buyer cannot use it.

Before responding I phoned PayPal for advise. To my amazement I got a UK call centre, explained about the dispute and asked for advise.

His immediate response was that the claim was ridiculous,a put me on hold.

A few minutes later he confirmed that he had reviewed the case and rules in my (the seller's) favour as the item was as described.

Result,
It is easy and cheap/free for the original owner to get an iphone unlocked on O2. (!! Except iphone 6 at the moment it seems. Tell them you are going abroad)
http://www.o2.co.uk/help/phones-and-devices/unlock...

Worth doing as they will then get a premium.

Neil H

15,323 posts

251 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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I've been on Ebay since 2000, it's definitely changed a lot since then. I remember having to buy dollars at the Post Office and send it disguised in letters in order to pay people overseas before Paypal came about.

The only time I have actually 'lost' a case was when I sold an empty Xbox 360 case to someone in Italy. They claimed they never received it (which was probable given the Italian postal system - most probably turned up some months later) and they were refunded. Was only about EUR 20. I've sold iPhones, Nintendo Wiis and Playstation 4s on there without issue, and I still have 100% feedback after almost 15 years (touchwood).

They have definitely moved away from being somewhere people can sell their tat. For buying specialised items though it's really hard to beat, although Aliexpress as someone mentioned, is brilliant.

Gareth79

7,661 posts

246 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Neil H said:
They have definitely moved away from being somewhere people can sell their tat. For buying specialised items though it's really hard to beat, although Aliexpress as someone mentioned, is brilliant.
Agreed - I have bought and sold on eBay since '99 and while I still sell the odd expensive item (~£200) I am nervous, and am relieved when the buyer "looks" legit. For example last year I listed a Nexus 5 on Gumtree at £170 for 2-3 weeks, only got one person interested who appeared to be 17 and wanted me to deliver it 30 mins drive away. Listed on ebay, sold for well over £200.

Also, Aliexpress is indeed, I buy something on there at least once a month, it's insanely cheap if you can stand to wait a few weeks.

eg. mini Bluetooth OBD2 reader, $4.92 including postage:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-Latest-version...

DeuxCentCinq

14,180 posts

182 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Gareth79 said:
eg. mini Bluetooth OBD2 reader, $4.92 including postage:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-Latest-version...
Wow. Never heard of that site before. That gadget ^ how would one connect to it? Bluetooth to some software or other on a laptop?

SistersofPercy

3,355 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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DeuxCentCinq said:
Wow. Never heard of that site before. That gadget ^ how would one connect to it? Bluetooth to some software or other on a laptop?
Other half had an app on his phone for reading OBD. It was really cool because it showed real time figures as you drove along.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

190 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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DeuxCentCinq said:
Gareth79 said:
eg. mini Bluetooth OBD2 reader, $4.92 including postage:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-Latest-version...
Wow. Never heard of that site before. That gadget ^ how would one connect to it? Bluetooth to some software or other on a laptop?
Bluetooth on your phone, lots of free OBD fault reader applications about.

eltawater

3,112 posts

179 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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yes

Connect to it from most Bluetooth capable device running suitable client software, e.g. Torque on Android or OBD software of your choice on your laptop.

I notice that I was "enrolled" onto the Ebay Global Shipping programme the other day, whereby Ebay will handily offer your wares to countries you wouldn't normally touch with a bargepole by funneling it through their handling warehouses. I've opted-out sharpish.