Ramadan 2014

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Hoofy

76,360 posts

282 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Mermaid said:
Odd. Why not just let them do what they do before/after eating ie play in the playground? Or sit in a class and study. Or whatever they do.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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rolleyes

It's always the mouthy parents isn't it.

"Although the volume of communication has been from significantly few parents it is now interfering with the daily management of the school and detracting from our focus, which is the education of all children at Newport."

Waltham Forest Council said Newport Primary School was issued with advice from Public Health England.

Councillor Mark Rusling said:" The school concerned serves a large Muslim community, the majority of whom have supported this policy."

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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What ten year old "wants to fast"? rolleyes

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
What ten year old "wants to fast"? rolleyes
A brainwashed one

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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anonymous said:
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There's no other answer that I can see, stopping a child from eating is just wrong.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
What ten year old "wants to fast"? rolleyes

The parents want them to - more important than education.

Adult fasting fine. Children ?

Mo probably prescribed it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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doogz said:
I read that earlier. I don't quite get it.

Are they saying that if a child, or their parent chose for them to stay in school, the school was going to force feed them lunch?
Hoofy said:
Odd. Why not just let them do what they do before/after eating ie play in the playground? Or sit in a class and study. Or whatever they do.
No I think the implication from the school was that as it is far from natural for a child to fast it was having an affect on their learning, as such they should be picked up and taken home for a rest/nap during the lunch period in the hope they could have some hope of learning in the afternoon

Most parents agreed, a small subset did not like having to interrupt their day to take care of their offspring even though it was their decision for the children to fast (not the schools).

This small minority were then so vocal and disruptive the school were spending vast amounts of time dealing with the issue so backed down as to not impact the education of the remaining pupils

Countdown

39,895 posts

196 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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anonymous said:
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My daughter did (when she was 10). She's ultra-competitive with her elder brother, so whatever he could do, so could she. I did ask her not to but she pretty much insisted.

Actually what I said was that as the muslim male head of the household my word was law and I demanded she obey my command. She treated that request with the same respect her mum does. biggrin

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Countdown said:
My daughter did (when she was 10). She's ultra-competitive with her elder brother, so whatever he could do, so could she. I did ask her not to but she pretty much insisted.

Actually what I said was that as the muslim male head of the household my word was law and I demanded she obey my command. She treated that request with the same respect her mum does. biggrin
hehe

And thats fair enough, but there will be other households where the child doesn't have that choice I am sure. This isn't an anti muslim thing, I get just as irritated when other people foist their beliefs on people too young to make their own decisions, like Vegans

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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anonymous said:
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Yup, I'd go along with that. As for telling my teenage daughters what to do.... rofl

Inverted

2,164 posts

209 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Im working in central Africa, we have a lot of Egyptians working for us. Managers down to guys digging holes.

From 2 years working here the production of these guys (At all seniority level) is poor at the best of times but during Ramadan they may as well not turn up.

An hour late in the morning, 2 hour lunch and at least an hour early finish. Quicker its over the better.

But I guess I have to admire the dedication especially those of you working in hot countries. 34 degrees here today. I cant survive 30 min without water.

Edited by Inverted on Tuesday 15th July 15:14

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Inverted said:
Im working in central Africa, we have a lot of Egyptians working for us. Managers down to guys digging holes.

From 2 years working here the production of these guys (At all seniority level) is poor at the best of times but during Ramadan they may as well not turn up.

An hour late in the morning, 2 hour lunch and at least an hour early finish. Quicker its over the better.

Edited by Inverted on Tuesday 15th July 15:13
Out of interest, why a 2 hour lunch if they can't eat or drink or smoke? Why not just work through and finish early (if possible)?

Inverted

2,164 posts

209 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Well they already finish early. In fact they have just walked out the office now at 4.05. They say they need to rest/sleep at lunch time.

Countdown

39,895 posts

196 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Inverted said:
Im working in central Africa, we have a lot of Egyptians working for us. Managers down to guys digging holes.

From 2 years working here the production of these guys (At all seniority level) is poor at the best of times but during Ramadan they may as well not turn up.

An hour late in the morning, 2 hour lunch and at least an hour early finish. Quicker its over the better.

But I guess I have to admire the dedication especially those of you working in hot countries. 34 degrees here today. I cant survive 30 min without water.

Edited by Inverted on Tuesday 15th July 15:14
If its poor at the best of times why can't you sack them?

rollondeath

317 posts

119 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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anonymous said:
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EFA.

6th Gear

3,563 posts

194 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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anonymous said:
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Speaking of brainwashed...

http://m.gulfnews.com/news/uae/general/ebrahim-8-i...

The_Burg

4,846 posts

214 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Must have been a bad day, engineer virtually incapable of work. Offered to swap him onto nights. Poor old boy is 64, too old for doing things like this. Not eating fine but no water...

Caught the security guy buying diet Pepsi in Sainsburys. Apparently that was OK though.

So how do you guys doing it cope? Working in London and using the tube i rarely go far without a swig of water.

Chipmunk1

1,314 posts

162 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Me and most people I know just adjust to it after a few days, it's supposed to be hard, that's the point of doing it

But as we have been through countless times there are good and bad Muslims, those that aren't following what they are supposed to do, well they are only fooling themselves

I see little point of you lot constantly polluting this thread with this and that about some Muslim bloke at work

If your so concerned go ask those guys you see everyday at work and have a discussion with them

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Chipmunk1 said:
Me and most people I know just adjust to it after a few days, it's supposed to be hard, that's the point of doing it

But as we have been through countless times there are good and bad Muslims, those that aren't following what they are supposed to do, well they are only fooling themselves

I see little point of you lot constantly polluting this thread with this and that about some Muslim bloke at work

If your so concerned go ask those guys you see everyday at work and have a discussion with them
Just as well there is not a "Ramadan" that requires you to refrain from sex, more interesting thread then wink

The_Burg

4,846 posts

214 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Mermaid said:
Just as well there is not a "Ramadan" that requires you to refrain from sex, more interesting thread then wink
Pretty sure it does include a sex ban and even having bad thoughts.