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eldar said:
I'd be interested to hear how people actually cope with this. No sustenance for 20 hours a day over a month is a fairly extreme diet, and I suspect beyond the capability of most people, Moslem or otherwise. Do people prepare for it, cheat, or just grin and bear it?
And why?
Back in a grim old days of having a real job, at least half the muslims I worked with, were cheating.And why?
It can't be good for you.... seems utterly pointless, out dated and unnecessary today. There is no chance at all I'd be letting Muslim employees turn up late to work to take part in this farce...
I don't understand the people who go into work late.
I work in the city and have been for many years. I continue to work my normal hours which depending on how busy I am can mean getting Into the office as early as 7am and not leaving as late as 9pm.
I don't slack off during Ramadan, instead work as hard as normal.
The main difference for me is trying to ensure I have no lunch meetings and no dinners arranged as I don't like people having to make special arrangements for me.
I continue like normal. I'm sure many people on here will go the entire working day without food, they don't ask for end neither receive special treatment, so why should I when I'm fasting?
The person who asked about a honeymoon in Dubai, just be wary that a lot of restaurants are closed during the day, the shopping malls have cordoned off areas and it's frowned upon if your eating in public. I was in Dubai a few years ago during Ramadan and that was tough.
I work in the city and have been for many years. I continue to work my normal hours which depending on how busy I am can mean getting Into the office as early as 7am and not leaving as late as 9pm.
I don't slack off during Ramadan, instead work as hard as normal.
The main difference for me is trying to ensure I have no lunch meetings and no dinners arranged as I don't like people having to make special arrangements for me.
I continue like normal. I'm sure many people on here will go the entire working day without food, they don't ask for end neither receive special treatment, so why should I when I'm fasting?
The person who asked about a honeymoon in Dubai, just be wary that a lot of restaurants are closed during the day, the shopping malls have cordoned off areas and it's frowned upon if your eating in public. I was in Dubai a few years ago during Ramadan and that was tough.
Hackney said:
Kiltie said:
Sounds like this bothers you and I can't see any reason why it should.
Only in the sense that he gets special treatment because of some fairy story.I'm from Nottingham, so can I come in late tomorrow as I have to rob from the rich and give to the poor first?
It's also comforting for me to know that I have a candidate lined up for anything that needs done in a hurry on 25/12/14.
The bottom line, though, is that he works for me so it's of absolutely no consequence to you.
eldar said:
I'd be interested to hear how people actually cope with this. No sustenance for 20 hours a day over a month is a fairly extreme diet, and I suspect beyond the capability of most people, Moslem or otherwise. Do people prepare for it, cheat, or just grin and bear it?
And why?
It's interesting here in Dubai. Ramadan is enforced by law, so to speak.And why?
Anyway - most of the locals etc... here work shortened hours and sleep for the rest of the time, until it's time for iftar then they stuff themselves silly and go back to bed.
I'm currently working in Kurdistan as a Mountaineer for an oil project, it's around 40 degrees most days.
I'll be interested to see how our local guys who are fasting cope.
Our working day has changed start and finish times to try to help.
The work is fairly arduous, I'm drinking about 3 litres of water whilst out in the field, I expect lots of them will drink water, it's unsafe not to.
I'll be interested to see how our local guys who are fasting cope.
Our working day has changed start and finish times to try to help.
The work is fairly arduous, I'm drinking about 3 litres of water whilst out in the field, I expect lots of them will drink water, it's unsafe not to.
I'm doing a daily 16 hr fast at the moment (weight control) that means I do all my eating between 12 pm and 8 pm, and then don't eat until 12 pm the next day. And by that point I'm starting to chew my desk so the thought of sticking another 4 hr wait on top of that would be tough, certainly. A workmate of mine will be doing it. I don't envy him.
I'm fasting two days a week at the moment. Neither day consecutively, of course.
It's OK. Not easy. OK.
In an equatorial country when days are 12 hours long Ramadan should be easy. Up here in Britain, in summer, when the days are twenty hours long it must take some dedication to avoid food and drink for that time. Every day. For a fortnight...
It's OK. Not easy. OK.
In an equatorial country when days are 12 hours long Ramadan should be easy. Up here in Britain, in summer, when the days are twenty hours long it must take some dedication to avoid food and drink for that time. Every day. For a fortnight...
Kiltie said:
Hackney said:
Kiltie said:
Sounds like this bothers you and I can't see any reason why it should.
Only in the sense that he gets special treatment because of some fairy story.I'm from Nottingham, so can I come in late tomorrow as I have to rob from the rich and give to the poor first?
It's also comforting for me to know that I have a candidate lined up for anything that needs done in a hurry on 25/12/14.
The bottom line, though, is that he works for me so it's of absolutely no consequence to you.
Well out here in Afghanistan its the "big thing" with Eid following it.
I was glad though that NATO decided to place a Country that practices Ramadan as our base security force. Top choice!!!! And what is great is the Mosque that this unnamed country setup is 25m from out accomadation! 0300hrs calls to prayer are just awesome.
I was glad though that NATO decided to place a Country that practices Ramadan as our base security force. Top choice!!!! And what is great is the Mosque that this unnamed country setup is 25m from out accomadation! 0300hrs calls to prayer are just awesome.
Edited by petop on Sunday 29th June 11:54
Asterix said:
It's interesting here in Dubai. Ramadan is enforced by law, so to speak.
Anyway - most of the locals etc... here work shortened hours and sleep for the rest of the time, until it's time for iftar then they stuff themselves silly and go back to bed.
You forgot the daily deathrace2000 re-enactments at twilight. I've not found a problem here, (other than the driving) in the last couple of years and quite like working through Ramadan - once the office empties I can catch up on the backlog. That said this year I've a 100km run to get home which I suspect will become rather interesting towards the end of the month..Anyway - most of the locals etc... here work shortened hours and sleep for the rest of the time, until it's time for iftar then they stuff themselves silly and go back to bed.
Countdown said:
KFC said:
Back in a grim old days of having a real job, at least half the muslims I worked with, were cheating.
Who were they "cheating"? It's a personal thing. Nobody forces you to do it so I'm not sure exactly how anybody can cheat. 
And that's before we get to the tricky subject of eid, which most of the local 'innits' seem to take as an excuse to drive around stupidly dangerously in uncle mo's Audi/Merc/5-Series with five of their mates hanging out of the windows. It's 'cultural', innit, so all perfectly OK ....
Oli.
Are kids expected to do this too? What age do they usually start?
I must admit I find it strange that a human would choose to do something so extreme simply because a few thousand years ago a man in the desert claimed that 'god' spoke to him and passed on a set of instructions for all of us to follow. If someone claimed today that 'god' has been speaking to him/her we'd all think they were mad.
Nonetheless, it must take incredible mental and physical strength to avoid food and water for 20 hours a day so I do respect, to a certain extent, those who do this for the full month. All the best to all of you who do this.
I must admit I find it strange that a human would choose to do something so extreme simply because a few thousand years ago a man in the desert claimed that 'god' spoke to him and passed on a set of instructions for all of us to follow. If someone claimed today that 'god' has been speaking to him/her we'd all think they were mad.
Nonetheless, it must take incredible mental and physical strength to avoid food and water for 20 hours a day so I do respect, to a certain extent, those who do this for the full month. All the best to all of you who do this.
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