Odd things your neighbours do?

Odd things your neighbours do?

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HTP99

22,558 posts

140 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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markcoznottz said:
durbster said:
There's a house that I walk past when walking the dog and I am fascinated by the amount of rubbish they produce.

They have two wheelie bins, and for each fortnightly collection they are both absolutely rammed, always enough to lift the lids and sometimes with bungee cords holding the lids down. Every other week, their recycling bin is the same.

From nosing the bags that are spilling out of it as I walk past (I'm a bit obsessed by it), it doesn't look like there's anything unusual in there, and it's not a big family, I think it's two adults and either one or two kids. They're not fatties either, so it's not just excessive food.

One day I think I'll crack, and in the middle of the night, go and see what the bloody hell is in there black-ops style.
You sure that you aren't related to me? I'm now obsessed with bin etiquette, I blame it on old age.
I do find it amazing sometimes, how much rubbish one family can produce.

There is a family near me who have two grey (general rubbish) wheelie bins which are always full with a few full bin bags plonked next to them, we have one bin that occasionally gets filled up to the top but the lid can always close.

Spare tyre

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9,575 posts

130 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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durbster said:
There's a house that I walk past when walking the dog and I am fascinated by the amount of rubbish they produce.

They have two wheelie bins, and for each fortnightly collection they are both absolutely rammed, always enough to lift the lids and sometimes with bungee cords holding the lids down. Every other week, their recycling bin is the same.

From nosing the bags that are spilling out of it as I walk past (I'm a bit obsessed by it), it doesn't look like there's anything unusual in there, and it's not a big family, I think it's two adults and either one or two kids. They're not fatties either, so it's not just excessive food.

One day I think I'll crack, and in the middle of the night, go and see what the bloody hell is in there black-ops style.
Could be a self employed tradesman, brings home the odds and sods and puts them in the bottom of the bin, household waste on top to disguise

I know people who can seem to place anything in a bin logically, will place something in at a silly angle then just plonk other stuff on top, they won't flatten stuff etc

CaptainCosworth

5,874 posts

93 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Spare tyre said:
I know people who can seem to place anything in a bin logically, will place something in at a silly angle then just plonk other stuff on top, they won't flatten stuff etc
yes Whenever I take the kitchen bin out, within 24hrs Mrs CC has found a bin shaped/sized item to fill it again! I keep telling her to flatten it or leave it by the back door and I'll take it out next time I go to the garage* (that's where we keep our wheelie bins) but she never listens...


* To be fair though, if she does leave it by the door i will probably walk past it about half a dozen times before I actually take it out.... whistle

hashtag

1,116 posts

154 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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6 months ago I moved and immediately noticed there were bin issues:-

When I moved into an empty house i noticed the bin was full to the brim with fresh rubbish. Irritating as I had rubbish to get rid of but couldn't

So moved in, and all okay.

Fast forward a few weeks and i am awake early, it is bin day and the bins are on the street. There' are some noises so i have a look outside.

My neighbour is dressed in a black onesie chucking rubbish into every visible rubbish bin, at 5.00 in the morning.

So, in the morning i take the rest of my rubbish to my bin, oh no it is full with someone's rubbish.

So later I casually mention that my bin was filled with other people's rubbish, and could not not get rid of the rest of our rubbish that morning. I then had a 10 minute lecture that they have had this problem for years and there should be arrests.

My reply was that I agree and would they support any accusations.

"Well yes"

That's great as I have CCTV.

The mood changed a bit

5 days later he is out in the black onesie again, filling my bin, so I went out and said hello...


Needless to say we don't speak now, as I have "attitude" and an "disrespectful"

And I don't smoke weed....... perhaps I shouldn't have said thatt....


S10GTA

12,680 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Bin. fking bins.

My neighbour puts her rubbish bags out on a Wednesday afternoon. The issue with this is the bins are collected Wednesday morning. Does my fking head in. Their bags of rubbish sit there for a whole week before they're collected.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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My neighbour has a visitor who has a car with a fairly obvious personalised plate on the back and (I guess) the original reg on the front. I thought he had 2 very similar cars for a while.

98elise

26,617 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Rawwr said:
durbster said:
There's a house that I walk past when walking the dog and I am fascinated by the amount of rubbish they produce.

They have two wheelie bins, and for each fortnightly collection they are both absolutely rammed, always enough to lift the lids and sometimes with bungee cords holding the lids down. Every other week, their recycling bin is the same.

From nosing the bags that are spilling out of it as I walk past (I'm a bit obsessed by it), it doesn't look like there's anything unusual in there, and it's not a big family, I think it's two adults and either one or two kids. They're not fatties either, so it's not just excessive food.

One day I think I'll crack, and in the middle of the night, go and see what the bloody hell is in there black-ops style.
Brilliant film smile

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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98elise said:
Brilliant film smile
Bruce Dern <3

XslaneyX

1,334 posts

142 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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S10GTA said:
Bin. fking bins.

My neighbour puts her rubbish bags out on a Wednesday afternoon. The issue with this is the bins are collected Wednesday morning. Does my fking head in. Their bags of rubbish sit there for a whole week before they're collected.
Ours are collected friday morning. We generally fill our wheelie bin as we have rabbits to clean out and 3 kids to square away. This normally means there is 1 or 2 extra bags of rubbish. Before i leave for work on friday morning i take them out and place the loose bags next to the wheelie bin and use the recycling boxes to keep them neat so they don't blow over etc.

I drive up the street and on the side paths you can see split bags and all sorts of gubbins strewn everywhere (Nappies etc) Cats/Seagulls and Pissed up idiots the night before are the usual criminals as people still put them out every thursday night regardless.

Grips my st!

Blown2CV

28,820 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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XslaneyX said:
S10GTA said:
Bin. fking bins.

My neighbour puts her rubbish bags out on a Wednesday afternoon. The issue with this is the bins are collected Wednesday morning. Does my fking head in. Their bags of rubbish sit there for a whole week before they're collected.
Ours are collected friday morning. We generally fill our wheelie bin as we have rabbits to clean out and 3 kids to square away. This normally means there is 1 or 2 extra bags of rubbish. Before i leave for work on friday morning i take them out and place the loose bags next to the wheelie bin and use the recycling boxes to keep them neat so they don't blow over etc.

I drive up the street and on the side paths you can see split bags and all sorts of gubbins strewn everywhere (Nappies etc) Cats/Seagulls and Pissed up idiots the night before are the usual criminals as people still put them out every thursday night regardless.

Grips my st!
they don't take extra bags where i live.

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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I keep reading this thread and wondering if someone would be commenting on me…
However my new next door neighbour (nearly 2 years now…) is turning into someone a bit special….
He’s one of a couple, she’s OK, not my sort though…. she’s the brains of the operation- in the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man and all that…

They moved in and he noticed his garden is shorter than mine by 4 feet. They are nearly 150 feet long and should be the same size. Some changes were made over 10 years ago, and the neighbours behind had their deeds updated, the lovely old guy who lived next door previously never bothered. New neighbour came on all high and mighty with the blokes behind us as to how he was going to reclaim his land “by force” – as it was in the deeds etc.….

This escalated until the 2 blokes behind called round to him for a sensible chat about it all. No chance! It ends up with the classic “get orf my land” stuff and threats to call the police. She clams him down and pulls him back inside. I was pissing myself…

He cocked up a boundary tree removal – I agreed to the top 15 feet going, he takes it all down! I’m NOT impressed…..

He wants to do some landscaping in the back garden, so he orders a mini digger, but forgets to check if it will fit through the opening/passage between their front and the back garden – it doesn’t… I’m out, so he can’t go through my garage into his garden. I wasn’t asked anyway. My garage has a door at each end….

His next door neighbour is out, and their gate is locked. His next door-but-one has an unlocked gate from the front to the back. No-one’s in…. Calmly opens the gate, drives his digger up their garden. Rubber tracks/soft wet lawn interface issue. No boards are down. Takes out a garden fenced panel, drives across both next door’s garden into his. My neighbours went ballistic later when they returned but he was adamant he had access rights, and ignored them. He faffs about in his garden for about a week. He waits until they’re all out again and repeats the stunt driving it back… big locks appear on gates. One of them works in the legal department at the council…. Stern words were said and then a letter was sent...

A few weeks later, the hired mini digger reappears for another cock up at landscaping. No chance of access via the other next door neighbours. I’m out. He opens the opposite side next door gate and drives up their path (they are out), takes out one of my fence panels, they unbolt… takes his digger across my lawn. There are marks in the lawn but nowhere near as bad as the other neighbours. He breaks a lawn edging board while doing it. Away he goes turning his garden into the Somme one more time. I clocked he’d done this, didn’t say anything, but left a notice on my fence, saying all damage will be paid for from now on. If need be via the small claims court.

I note the digger has been returned a few days later, but this time boards went down and all was put back very neatly without further ado. At no point was prior permission asked off anybody to do any of this, or afterwards…. He was adamant he had access rights. Legal advice was taken - £200 worth… word got back to him and the brains of the operation asks very nicely every single time…

He’s a bought a timber garden shed off eBay. Made a right mess of installing it. Then bought some 2nd hand UPVC windows of eBay to fit in it. Which are sort-of-fitted but leak. You can imagine how good that looks… as it leaks- there’s nothing in it. The original shed in the garden has been moved, but in moving it, they’ve broken it and its now falling apart and leaking. As it leaks - there’s nothing in it.

A hardstanding has been built for a HUGE conservatory. Unfortunately the second hand conservatory (again off eBay) that’s been bought, didn’t come with glass (yes really), and it’s a lot smaller than the hardstanding, it hasn’t been built yet so it still sits under a leaking (spotting a theme here) cover on the hardstanding. The hardstanding was built over the sewer without permission/license or whatever it is you need nowadays.

The garden is still a good Somme imitation. I was going to post a picture of the before and after, but someone would put 2+2 together.

She complained about my security light coming on at night and lighting up the garden (mainly mine). Guess whose cat triggers it?

Blown2CV

28,820 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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i'm sorry you have to put up with tts like that!! Imagine claiming access rights via someone else's property?! That's just not the case!

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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So all this damage he has caused with his digger, has he coughed up anything towards it?

Let me guess... No.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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hashtag said:
6 months ago I moved and immediately noticed there were bin issues:-

When I moved into an empty house i noticed the bin was full to the brim with fresh rubbish. Irritating as I had rubbish to get rid of but couldn't

So moved in, and all okay.

Fast forward a few weeks and i am awake early, it is bin day and the bins are on the street. There' are some noises so i have a look outside.

My neighbour is dressed in a black onesie chucking rubbish into every visible rubbish bin, at 5.00 in the morning.

So, in the morning i take the rest of my rubbish to my bin, oh no it is full with someone's rubbish.

So later I casually mention that my bin was filled with other people's rubbish, and could not not get rid of the rest of our rubbish that morning. I then had a 10 minute lecture that they have had this problem for years and there should be arrests.

My reply was that I agree and would they support any accusations.

"Well yes"

That's great as I have CCTV.

The mood changed a bit

5 days later he is out in the black onesie again, filling my bin, so I went out and said hello...


Needless to say we don't speak now, as I have "attitude" and an "disrespectful"

And I don't smoke weed....... perhaps I shouldn't have said thatt....
you need a lid lock - http://www.lockmywheeliebins.com/?product=sample5

or a shotgun.. either will do the job smile

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Blown2CV said:
i'm sorry you have to put up with tts like that!! Imagine claiming access rights via someone else's property?! That's just not the case!
Well…. funny you should say that… All good karma and passing it forward and stuff… and drifting off topic....

This legal advice is £254 worth (I’ve just checked) – and as it applied in MY CASE… yours could well be different…
Copy and pasted almost verbatim…. Some of the legalese has been edited/changed as it reads funny to me – I hope it’s not lost any of the intent in the process. My further comments in brackets.
My_Legal_stuff said:
Your neighbour(s) has rights of access to your property for the following reasons:-
Maintenance of party walls, fences and trees that lie on the boundary line.
Maintenance of important services - this includes:-
• Feed water –mains.
• Sewage – (the water company have some interesting access rights here….)
• Gas
• Electricity
• Telephone (but more doubtful nowadays due to mobile technology.)
There is an implied immediate right of access for emergency cases, but only when there is a REAL risk of injury and/or property loss.
It does NOT include property improvement. This work only fits into this category unless party wall work is required up to and including the roof.

However, it states that the above access MUST be done in conjunction with the property owner’s PRIOR permission and must be considered reasonable in each and EVERY case. Unless permission is granted by the property owner that access is available at all times. (This is VERY unlikely.)

It states that no damage must be done while having the access to the property, and any damage done, must be made good at the requesters cost. This damage must be made good in a reasonable time frame.

Access rights assumed over a considerable time frame, read years, are difficult legally, and can take a long time to sort out. The rights TEND to get reset when a new occupier moves in - unless specifically stated on the deeds, and/or the house buyer gets a categorical statement from the relevant people that the access rights the previous home owner had were carried over. (A competent solicitor and a savvy potential new home owner will know to ask for these points when home buying. One to bear in mind for all potential house buyers…)

Note there is also “rights of access” in relation to the type of traffic expected to traverse the property. Unless clearly and categorically stated otherwise, it is assumed that access rights are only for “on foot”.

On foot – is assumed to be the default case, and it is also assumed that all persons would be WALKING across the property in a fair and reasonable manner. If you are on a pedal cycle, this means you MUST get off the bike and walk it across the property.

(If vehicular access i.e. car, is required, it must be asked for over and above the “on foot” access…)
Vehicular access – it is possible to cross the property with a car/small van, but it does NOT allow you to park the vehicle on the property – i.e. leave the vehicle for what a reasonable person would consider “parked”. It also assumes that the vehicle crosses the property, again, in a fair and reasonable manner.
(Other vehicular access)

Other vehicles – i.e. tracked excavators – this is not covered by the above, and permission must be granted prior to entering AND leaving the property and it is assumed that again reasonable care and attention must be taken at all times.

Removal of fence panels – this is definitely NOT allowed without the relevant home owner’s permission – this is linked to keeping pets (especially dogs) in the safety of the home owner’s property. (A dog maybe linked to someone’s income, a cat isn’t, so they are far more of a special case, as well as a mean buggar dog could be wandering around the streets without supervision)
So it’s possible to grant access across your property for a piece of equipment and you could be well within your rights to delay its removal for a "reasonable time frame".
HTH

davek_964

8,818 posts

175 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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When I bought my house, the (non-attached) neigbour had a gate in their back fence which opened up onto my driveway and said that the previous owner had allowed them access on the rare occasions they needed it (their house is extended up to their boundary line). I said fine, and had no problem with it (they do have a back gate which provides access but it's less practical). He used it very very rarely, and all was good.

Then he left the country and rented the property out - and the new neighbours used it a lot. If they had BBQ / parties in their back garden, this gate - and my driveway - became the entrance for their guests. The final straw was when the adults were away on holiday and their teenage son and his mate decided to put their wheelie bins out - and "carried" it over the 911 turbo I had parked on the drive - thereby scratching it.

The following weekend, I blocked the gate with a fence panel and a new fence post.

Adults returned from holiday, got upset and claimed "right of way" - I reminded them that they had a back gate. They complained that they would now have to store their bins on their driveway which was "unsightly". Tough.

They moved out a few months later.

jet_noise

5,651 posts

182 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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davek_964 said:
When I bought my house, the (non-attached) neigbour had a gate in their back fence which opened up onto my driveway and said that the previous owner had allowed them access on the rare occasions they needed it (their house is extended up to their boundary line). I said fine, and had no problem with it (they do have a back gate which provides access but it's less practical). He used it very very rarely, and all was good.

Then he left the country and rented the property out - and the new neighbours used it a lot. If they had BBQ / parties in their back garden, this gate - and my driveway - became the entrance for their guests. The final straw was when the adults were away on holiday and their teenage son and his mate decided to put their wheelie bins out - and "carried" it over the 911 turbo I had parked on the drive - thereby scratching it.

The following weekend, I blocked the gate with a fence panel and a new fence post.

Adults returned from holiday, got upset and claimed "right of way" - I reminded them that they had a back gate. They complained that they would now have to store their bins on their driveway which was "unsightly". Tough.

They moved out a few months later.
They asked permission and you gave it. Permission given can be withdrawn. This is a very different circumstance from such as prescriptive rights (terminology?),
IANAL etc

regards,
Jet

Blown2CV

28,820 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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jet_noise said:
davek_964 said:
When I bought my house, the (non-attached) neigbour had a gate in their back fence which opened up onto my driveway and said that the previous owner had allowed them access on the rare occasions they needed it (their house is extended up to their boundary line). I said fine, and had no problem with it (they do have a back gate which provides access but it's less practical). He used it very very rarely, and all was good.

Then he left the country and rented the property out - and the new neighbours used it a lot. If they had BBQ / parties in their back garden, this gate - and my driveway - became the entrance for their guests. The final straw was when the adults were away on holiday and their teenage son and his mate decided to put their wheelie bins out - and "carried" it over the 911 turbo I had parked on the drive - thereby scratching it.

The following weekend, I blocked the gate with a fence panel and a new fence post.

Adults returned from holiday, got upset and claimed "right of way" - I reminded them that they had a back gate. They complained that they would now have to store their bins on their driveway which was "unsightly". Tough.

They moved out a few months later.
They asked permission and you gave it. Permission given can be withdrawn. This is a very different circumstance from such as prescriptive rights (terminology?),
IANAL etc

regards,
Jet
if the permission is not in the deeds/particulars of sale then it isn't some transferable legal construct. When giving verbal permission to an individual person, i would say it's a fair assumption that the other person can't just expand that out to whomever they choose. Moral rather than legal.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Friday 30th September 2016
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confused

Amazon decided to leave a small parcel with a neighbour who I don't speak to or know other than their first name. It was signed for by their son apparently. I went round after lunch and pleasantly asked the lad's dad for my parcel and apologised that Amazon had left it with them when I'd made no such request in my delivery instructions. Rather than do the normal thing and have a quick look for it (it's a tiny 1 bed flat) he just fobbed me off and sad he'd look into it and let me know confused. I thought it was a rather odd response. There's nothing of value in it - just a pair of wool socks and a camping pillow, so it's not like anything worth nicking. I've seen the dad again just now as I went out to my car, said hello to each other but he promptly disappeared before I got chance to ask if he'd found it. Very odd.

WD39

20,083 posts

116 months

Saturday 1st October 2016
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All that jazz said:
confused

Amazon decided to leave a small parcel with a neighbour who I don't speak to or know other than their first name. It was signed for by their son apparently. I went round after lunch and pleasantly asked the lad's dad for my parcel and apologised that Amazon had left it with them when I'd made no such request in my delivery instructions. Rather than do the normal thing and have a quick look for it (it's a tiny 1 bed flat) he just fobbed me off and sad he'd look into it and let me know confused. I thought it was a rather odd response. There's nothing of value in it - just a pair of wool socks and a camping pillow, so it's not like anything worth nicking. I've seen the dad again just now as I went out to my car, said hello to each other but he promptly disappeared before I got chance to ask if he'd found it. Very odd.
It looks like goodbtye socks and pillow.