Four year olds graduating
Discussion
Oakey said:
Dear BSR
I cordially invite you to my sons graduation ceremony where we celebrate his graduation from bottles to solids. Attire is smart, bow tie, no trainers.
Please RSVP at your earliest convenience.
Oakey
Im not saying I think other peoples children are cute and fun. Of course they aren't. Other peoples kids are st and dull with almost no exceptions.I cordially invite you to my sons graduation ceremony where we celebrate his graduation from bottles to solids. Attire is smart, bow tie, no trainers.
Please RSVP at your earliest convenience.
Oakey
Im just defending the fact that I thought the sight of my own children in mini hand-made mortar boards was cute, and nothing more needs to be read into it other than it was cute.
This thread is the same as ridiculing children for wearing super-hero costumes. Of course it is ridiculous to pretend you are iron man, and imagining a superman onesie gives you super powers, but all that is what kids do and ridiculing it is more ridiculous than what you are accusing them of (Not YOU you, but the generic you)
Type R Tom said:
We had “leavers’ discos” where we turned up in our Sunday best, not Proms with Limo’s and hired tuxes. At my sisters school the head was asked for permission to land a helicopter in the school fields.
Pfff, that's nothing.I hired a Harrier Jump Jet to deliver my kids to the Prom.
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blindswelledrat said:
Im not saying I think other peoples children are cute and fun. Of course they aren't. Other peoples kids are st and dull with almost no exceptions.
Im just defending the fact that I thought the sight of my own children in mini hand-made mortar boards was cute, and nothing more needs to be read into it other than it was cute.
This thread is the same as ridiculing children for wearing super-hero costumes. Of course it is ridiculous to pretend you are iron man, and imagining a superman onesie gives you super powers, but all that is what kids do and ridiculing it is more ridiculous than what you are accusing them of (Not YOU you, but the generic you)
Right, but are you coming or not?Im just defending the fact that I thought the sight of my own children in mini hand-made mortar boards was cute, and nothing more needs to be read into it other than it was cute.
This thread is the same as ridiculing children for wearing super-hero costumes. Of course it is ridiculous to pretend you are iron man, and imagining a superman onesie gives you super powers, but all that is what kids do and ridiculing it is more ridiculous than what you are accusing them of (Not YOU you, but the generic you)
School proms are cringey, leaving discos are fine. I don't really consider the prom as an evolution of the leaving disco. It's an Americanism which has spilled over to the UK fuelled by American films forcing ideologies onto adolescents about how they should have a good time. It's also spouted the tacky limo business and even tackier prom dress business.
Baby showers are essentially 'you are required to buy my unborn child baby ste' meetings.
I barely even wanted to go to my graduation ceremony. Miserable sounding yes, but the reward for me is what I have achieved as a result of my work later on in life, not an excuse to spend £100 to rent a cloak and hat for 2 hours, have stupid picture taken of me holding a plastic white tube with a ribbon around it, etc.
Bah humbug, etc.
Baby showers are essentially 'you are required to buy my unborn child baby ste' meetings.
I barely even wanted to go to my graduation ceremony. Miserable sounding yes, but the reward for me is what I have achieved as a result of my work later on in life, not an excuse to spend £100 to rent a cloak and hat for 2 hours, have stupid picture taken of me holding a plastic white tube with a ribbon around it, etc.
Bah humbug, etc.
blindswelledrat said:
Hackney said:
Absolutely.
So they don't know what it's for
They don't have the money to buy the gear
They don't know why they have to stand in front of everyone
They don't know why they have to rehearse
They don't know why they're wearing the silly gown and daft hat
So what is it for?
Sigh, I take it So they don't know what it's for
They don't have the money to buy the gear
They don't know why they have to stand in front of everyone
They don't know why they have to rehearse
They don't know why they're wearing the silly gown and daft hat
So what is it for?
a)You have never been to a pre-school leavers assembly and
b) You don't have children and
c)You've never had sex with a human female?
Honesty, if you think whether or not I have kids has anything to do with this, next time you're in a large group of four year olds ask them all this question.
"What do you want to dress up as today?"
Then tell me how many said, "I'd like to dress up as an 20 hear old American university graduate please"
I'd be delighted to hear the answer.
Hackney said:
Sigh all you want you patronising tt. I responded to "it's just a cute bit of fun" point made earlier. Yes, for the adults maybe. Whoever it was I quoted was making a big deal of the fact they "THEY ARE FOUR", which makes it even more ridiculous that they "graduate" anything. They haven't graduated, they've gotten old enough not to go to nursey any more. By all means have a party with jelly and cake and all other sugary foods, but a "graduation", with mortar boards and gowns is an absolutely ridiculous thing to do.
Honesty, if you think whether or not I have kids has anything to do with this, next time you're in a large group of four year olds ask them all this question.
"What do you want to dress up as today?"
Then tell me how many said, "I'd like to dress up as an 20 hear old American university graduate please"
I'd be delighted to hear the answer.
Sigh.Honesty, if you think whether or not I have kids has anything to do with this, next time you're in a large group of four year olds ask them all this question.
"What do you want to dress up as today?"
Then tell me how many said, "I'd like to dress up as an 20 hear old American university graduate please"
I'd be delighted to hear the answer.
No kids then?
Thought not.
Never ceases to amaze me how opinionated people with no kids are about kids.
blindswelledrat said:
Hackney said:
Sigh all you want you patronising tt. I responded to "it's just a cute bit of fun" point made earlier. Yes, for the adults maybe. Whoever it was I quoted was making a big deal of the fact they "THEY ARE FOUR", which makes it even more ridiculous that they "graduate" anything. They haven't graduated, they've gotten old enough not to go to nursey any more. By all means have a party with jelly and cake and all other sugary foods, but a "graduation", with mortar boards and gowns is an absolutely ridiculous thing to do.
Honesty, if you think whether or not I have kids has anything to do with this, next time you're in a large group of four year olds ask them all this question.
"What do you want to dress up as today?"
Then tell me how many said, "I'd like to dress up as an 20 hear old American university graduate please"
I'd be delighted to hear the answer.
Sigh.Honesty, if you think whether or not I have kids has anything to do with this, next time you're in a large group of four year olds ask them all this question.
"What do you want to dress up as today?"
Then tell me how many said, "I'd like to dress up as an 20 hear old American university graduate please"
I'd be delighted to hear the answer.
No kids then?
Thought not.
Never ceases to amaze me how opinionated people with no kids are about kids.
So what qualifies you to know what four year olds want? Unless of course you are 4 years old?
Your "argument" seems to be as cohesive.
It is all getting very commercialised. I like the idea of the children getting a certificate to say that they have completed nursery, primary, GCSEs, but the whole mortarboard and gown thing is very OTT.
This can be said with the prom. It is what the kids see on MTV, etc and they want the same. There will be a backlash in future when everyone turns up in gold-plated stretch helicopters wearing diamond encrusted dresses that look like someone from My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding rejected it because it was too garish.
I was recently in my local town and a prom was taking place in the main hotel. The person that got the best response when they arrived was a girl in a simple dress riding pillion on a Lambretta scooter. The girl that arrived in the white horse-drawn carriage in the dress that barely fitted in the carriage was basically ignored because of how over the top it was.
The same will happen to these four year old graduation ceremonies if things progress as proms have. A simple certificate presenting ceremony is all that is needed possibly with a picnic afterwards where everyone, children, families and staff can celebrate together. Please do not let it end up with limos, rented dresses or dinner suits and hotel meals and discos for four year old children.
This can be said with the prom. It is what the kids see on MTV, etc and they want the same. There will be a backlash in future when everyone turns up in gold-plated stretch helicopters wearing diamond encrusted dresses that look like someone from My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding rejected it because it was too garish.
I was recently in my local town and a prom was taking place in the main hotel. The person that got the best response when they arrived was a girl in a simple dress riding pillion on a Lambretta scooter. The girl that arrived in the white horse-drawn carriage in the dress that barely fitted in the carriage was basically ignored because of how over the top it was.
The same will happen to these four year old graduation ceremonies if things progress as proms have. A simple certificate presenting ceremony is all that is needed possibly with a picnic afterwards where everyone, children, families and staff can celebrate together. Please do not let it end up with limos, rented dresses or dinner suits and hotel meals and discos for four year old children.
Personally I have no real problem with this, however I think that it's totally unnecessary for the kids to have to wear special graduating outfits - I'm sure the kids could just as easily wear something smart to school that day rather than the parents having to shell out on something else completely unnecessary. Times aren't exactly all that easy for quite a few.
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