Do you know what your colleagues earn?
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H22observer said:
That comes across as a bit sniffy and haughty actually. It's a simple question that is relatively inoffensive.
I think it says a lot more about the person who feels offended than it says about the person asking the question.
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
Some people get all worked up when people spend more than they need to on things. Like houses or weddings.I think it says a lot more about the person who feels offended than it says about the person asking the question.
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
Fotic said:
H22observer said:
dave_s13 said:
IanA2 said:
I find it quite difficult to understand the English obsession with secrecy regarding pay. In Italy when you meet someone the first three questions you are usually asked are, are you married, do you have children, and how much do you earn?
Maybe I'm missing something.
That would be consider crass and vulgar in our polite society. If someone asked me that as an ice breaker I would immediately think they were a bit of a tw@t.Maybe I'm missing something.
I think it says a lot more about the person who feels offended than it says about the person asking the question.
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
What about if the person was asking your marital status to set you up with one of their friends?
iphonedyou said:
H22observer said:
That comes across as a bit sniffy and haughty actually. It's a simple question that is relatively inoffensive.
I think it says a lot more about the person who feels offended than it says about the person asking the question.
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
Some people get all worked up when people spend more than they need to on things. Like houses or weddings.I think it says a lot more about the person who feels offended than it says about the person asking the question.
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
Countdown said:
I'm financial controller so I know what everybody gets paid (as well as which hotels they stay at, what they use their company credit card on, what bonus their going to get).
Does it make me burn with bitterness, envy and jealousy?
God yes
I'm in exactly the same boat. Including the burning bit. Does it make me burn with bitterness, envy and jealousy?
God yes
H22observer said:
iphonedyou said:
H22observer said:
That comes across as a bit sniffy and haughty actually. It's a simple question that is relatively inoffensive.
I think it says a lot more about the person who feels offended than it says about the person asking the question.
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
Some people get all worked up when people spend more than they need to on things. Like houses or weddings.I think it says a lot more about the person who feels offended than it says about the person asking the question.
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
H22observer said:
is that relevant to this thread or just a cheap shot at me ?
Cheap shot. Valid point, though. If you asked somebody how much they paid for their wedding, and they said £30k, by your own admission you'd think badly of them. I don't see why you'd think any differently about houses.Always used to decades ago and could now from their billable rate.
Interestingly I don't bother now....
More entertainingly would be the payroll systems I have access to I could find out all sorts of people salary...
As for me miles more than my peers of course but that due to how I joined the company among other things
Interestingly I don't bother now....
More entertainingly would be the payroll systems I have access to I could find out all sorts of people salary...
As for me miles more than my peers of course but that due to how I joined the company among other things
eltax91 said:
I don't get all the fuss around being secretive over salary. My company is head office'd in Copenhagen and they all openly discuss what they earn, and moan about tax! 
I'm on £100k a year and I don't care who knows. :P
Ahhh, but would you be so relaxed if the bloke opposite you doing exactly the same job was earning £110k?I'm on £100k a year and I don't care who knows. :P
There was a programme on a few years ago about Pimlico Plumbers who, for an experiment, revealed what everyone was earning (there was a thread if you can be bothered to find it - I can't
) and it didn't turn out to well for them. Basically everyone thought they should be getting more than the others and b
hed and moaned and who'd have thought drainage bods earned so much!We know exactly what each others pay is. My group have identical responsibilities with identical job descriptions.
Lowest paid are on 27k, highest paid are on 74k. The ones higher up have been here longer so benefited from a time when annual pay increases happened regardless of performance.
Lowest paid are on 27k, highest paid are on 74k. The ones higher up have been here longer so benefited from a time when annual pay increases happened regardless of performance.
No idea, and tbh, don't care, its what I get that's impoirtant to me.
We get an inflation based pay rise annually (about3%) and I have been here 3 years now so trying to find best way to ask if a pay rise is possible.
We are pretty affluent and I am on a low rate for my experience and job but I always worry just blatantly asking for more money, even with reasoning is a bit rude. Don't know why but I always used to worry if you asked for a pay rise, the boss might get pissed off and find a way to get rid of you.
The FC here laughed when we were chatting about it, she seems to think I should just ask.
Issue is I don't want to just bring up a pay rise in conversation as I don't chat with the MD that often, and we didn't get an appraisal last June like normal.
We get an inflation based pay rise annually (about3%) and I have been here 3 years now so trying to find best way to ask if a pay rise is possible.
We are pretty affluent and I am on a low rate for my experience and job but I always worry just blatantly asking for more money, even with reasoning is a bit rude. Don't know why but I always used to worry if you asked for a pay rise, the boss might get pissed off and find a way to get rid of you.
The FC here laughed when we were chatting about it, she seems to think I should just ask.
Issue is I don't want to just bring up a pay rise in conversation as I don't chat with the MD that often, and we didn't get an appraisal last June like normal.
Cotty said:
H22observer said:
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
No but it would be pointless without knowing when. My dad bought a leather sofa that cost more than his first house. Houses not sofas
Custom chesterfield if your interested.
mini1380cc said:
We know exactly what each others pay is. My group have identical responsibilities with identical job descriptions.
Lowest paid are on 27k, highest paid are on 74k. The ones higher up have been here longer so benefited from a time when annual pay increases happened regardless of performance.
Do your identical job descriptions and responsibilities fully translate to what each person actually does? If all of you do equal work then that is a ridiculous range! Lowest paid are on 27k, highest paid are on 74k. The ones higher up have been here longer so benefited from a time when annual pay increases happened regardless of performance.
Pommygranite said:
H22observer said:
iphonedyou said:
H22observer said:
That comes across as a bit sniffy and haughty actually. It's a simple question that is relatively inoffensive.
I think it says a lot more about the person who feels offended than it says about the person asking the question.
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
Some people get all worked up when people spend more than they need to on things. Like houses or weddings.I think it says a lot more about the person who feels offended than it says about the person asking the question.
If somebody politely asks how much you paid for your house, would you also be offended?
For the record, i don't dislike "All financially successful people". I only dislike the prats and the modern day yuppies who think they're better than everyone else.
i do sometimes wonder about the mentality of a person that earns £70000-£90000 per year, but then refuses to discuss money because "it is vulgar", then tries really hard (in the most tasteless & vulgar way) to give off the impression that they are in the top 10% of earners by spending loads of money on watches, overpriced consumables and weddings.
Pistonheads seems to attract this type of person and reading their posts amuses me.
H22observer said:
For the record, i don't dislike "All financially successful people". I only dislike the prats and the modern day yuppies who think they're better than everyone else.
i do sometimes wonder about the mentality of a person that earns £70000-£90000 per year, but then refuses to discuss money because "it is vulgar", then tries really hard (in the most tasteless & vulgar way) to give off the impression that they are in the top 10% of earners by spending loads of money on watches, overpriced consumables and weddings.
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