It seems The Lounge is going 'Mumsnet' at the moment so I thought I'd get it back on track...
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:Oakey said:
I don't know what your problem is but the issue is with the signs they have up all over the place making out it's illegal to take photos with your camera phone but it somehow becomes legitimate if you pay them for a copy instead.
I'd be curious as to what the signs actually. The whole health industry is obviously highly regulated. I believe there is some rules about when giving out drugs that they have to get given complete and with all packaging and accessories.It may be that the hospital can't allow you to take a snapshot as doing so may not include all applicable info that would be included on the printout. Or perhaps the medical staff want to have control over what image you get.
A DM article I read said the hospital trusts earn quite an amount from this so I have no doubt that's a factor too but I wouldn't write off the legal argument either. Remember medical negligence gets very expensive.
Edited by rpguk on Saturday 26th July 03:34
Load of nonsense. If that was the case it would ge the same for all images everywhere in the medical world. The drug packaging is an entirely different matter.
No, it's just that they know very well the sheeple will be prepared to pay money for a precious photo of little Johnny/Jenny fetus.
Marketing in the medical sphere, what a beautiful combination.
No, it's just that they know very well the sheeple will be prepared to pay money for a precious photo of little Johnny/Jenny fetus.
Marketing in the medical sphere, what a beautiful combination.
zeduffman said:
The way you've recorded the sonographer and posted the video publicly on the internet is really inappropriate imo. I'm in a similar game (x-ray, CT, MRI) and would take real issue doing that with me.
EDIT: wait, OP is the guy who came up with "We wish to decline doing business with you" in the stupid things salesmen say thread. Says everything really. http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Why is it inappropriate?EDIT: wait, OP is the guy who came up with "We wish to decline doing business with you" in the stupid things salesmen say thread. Says everything really. http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Edited by zeduffman on Friday 25th July 14:39
Edited by zeduffman on Friday 25th July 14:41
rpguk said:
I'd be curious as to what the signs actually. The whole health industry is obviously highly regulated. I believe there is some rules about when giving out drugs that they have to get given complete and with all packaging and accessories.
It may be that the hospital can't allow you to take a snapshot as doing so may not include all applicable info that would be included on the printout. Or perhaps the medical staff want to have control over what image you get.
A DM article I read said the hospital trusts earn quite an amount from this so I have no doubt that's a factor too but I wouldn't write off the legal argument either. Remember medical negligence gets very expensive.
I think they were citing the Data Protection Act, can't remember nowIt may be that the hospital can't allow you to take a snapshot as doing so may not include all applicable info that would be included on the printout. Or perhaps the medical staff want to have control over what image you get.
A DM article I read said the hospital trusts earn quite an amount from this so I have no doubt that's a factor too but I wouldn't write off the legal argument either. Remember medical negligence gets very expensive.
Edited by rpguk on Saturday 26th July 03:34
zeduffman said:
Everyone has a right to privacy. I don't expect to have a video of me doing my job put up publicly on the internet. In fact I'd probably go a step further and abort the scan and ask the patient to re-appoint. Confidentiality works both ways.
But I didn't post a video of the sonographer did I? What you think you saw isn't actually on the video. Really! You'd abort the scan? Hello hello, you do realise that you are there for us, the paying customer, don't you? In one of the most delightful experiences that you will ever see? Don't you rather see it as a privilege to see the start of a new life? And enjoy that? You must be a real pleasure to work with. Interesting that took the time to stalk my posting history and make a reference to another thread that has no relevance to this one. That perhaps, says more about you than me?
TVR1 said:
But I didn't post a video of the sonographer did I? What you think you saw isn't actually on the video. Really! You'd abort the scan? Hello hello, you do realise that you are there for us, the paying customer, don't you? In one of the most delightful experiences that you will ever see? Don't you rather see it as a privilege to see the start of a new life? And enjoy that? You must be a real pleasure to work with.
Interesting that took the time to stalk my posting history and make a reference to another thread that has no relevance to this one. That perhaps, says more about you than me?
Well you did, I mean she's right there in the middle of the screen pointing at your kid. Interesting that took the time to stalk my posting history and make a reference to another thread that has no relevance to this one. That perhaps, says more about you than me?
Yeah I would abort. I don't know where this idea that we study for years and work long hours just to be treated like crap comes from. It doesn't work that way.
Fortunately I don't do baby scans because they bore the crap out of me. However, I don't take issue with you nabbing a quick photo of the screen. If you've broken your arm, it's your arm, you might as well have a photo of it as a souvenir. I do take issue with you recording the sonographer though. Does she know she's on the internet?
Perhaps. That thread stood out quite well though so it didn't take much Googling to find it.
Edited by zeduffman on Saturday 26th July 20:14
zeduffman said:
Well you did, I mean she's right there in the middle of the screen pointing at your kid.
Yeah I would abort. I don't know where this idea that we study for years and work long hours just to be treated like crap comes from. It doesn't work that way.
Fortunately I don't do baby scans because they bore the crap out of me. However, I don't take issue with you nabbing a quick photo of the screen. If you've broken your arm, it's your arm, you might as well have a photo of it as a souvenir. I do take issue with you recording the sonographer though. Does she know she's on the internet?
Perhaps. That thread stood out quite well though so it didn't take much Googling to find it.
There is a black shadow to the left of the screen, waving a finger about. It's not quite 'filming her doing her job'Yeah I would abort. I don't know where this idea that we study for years and work long hours just to be treated like crap comes from. It doesn't work that way.
Fortunately I don't do baby scans because they bore the crap out of me. However, I don't take issue with you nabbing a quick photo of the screen. If you've broken your arm, it's your arm, you might as well have a photo of it as a souvenir. I do take issue with you recording the sonographer though. Does she know she's on the internet?
Perhaps. That thread stood out quite well though so it didn't take much Googling to find it.
Edited by zeduffman on Saturday 26th July 20:14
Working long hours and 4 years study? Welcome to real life. That's almost as laughable as your comments about car salesmen.
So, you're a radiographer? And you'd abort a scan, even if someone had a spiral fracture of the femur would you? Just because someone was taking a cheeky movie?
And do you ask people to pay for their X rays? Do you? Answer that question.
You know it's a 'baby tax' don't you?
I'm not playing that game.
TVR1 said:
There is a black shadow to the left of the screen, waving a finger about. It's not quite 'filming her doing her job'
Working long hours and 4 years study? Welcome to real life. That's almost as laughable as your comments about car salesmen.
So, you're a radiographer? And you'd abort a scan, even if someone had a spiral fracture of the femur would you? Just because someone was taking a cheeky movie?
And do you ask people to pay for their X rays? Do you? Answer that question.
You know it's a 'baby tax' don't you?
I'm not playing that game.
So where would you draw the line? Would you mind someone secretly filming you having a colonoscopy as long as the dirty bit isn't on camera? All health workers do what they do because they want to help people out, a bit of privacy is not much to ask.Working long hours and 4 years study? Welcome to real life. That's almost as laughable as your comments about car salesmen.
So, you're a radiographer? And you'd abort a scan, even if someone had a spiral fracture of the femur would you? Just because someone was taking a cheeky movie?
And do you ask people to pay for their X rays? Do you? Answer that question.
You know it's a 'baby tax' don't you?
I'm not playing that game.
That's a different scenario because no one else would be in the room to take a video. If you're seen recording footage in an A&E department security will escort you off site anyway - that's a national thing.
I agree it's a baby tax. No reason it can't be done for free, unless it's a private business. And no, in the NHS, no one has to pay for their x-rays. That's the point in health service - but also differentiates a service user from a customer; you get what your doctor believes is best for you, which may not necessarily be what you want.
Like I said though, my issue isn't about that, it's just a bloody picture. All I ask is a bit more respect for the sonographer who's taking her time to show you what you're looking at while ensuring your baby is growing healthily. None of us need to see or hear her, so just delete the video.
Edited by zeduffman on Saturday 26th July 21:12
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