July 26th 2014. Day 17 at the Mental Health Clinic.
Discussion
TVR1 said:
Eric Mc said:
Build a plastic kit 
That's actually a really good idea! OP. Good luck and I personally hope for a steady recovery. I've had a few moments over the past year that whilst didn't send me over the edge, came pretty close.
And this is what PH is for sometimes. A rare place that whilst ripping the living pish out of you, will also be there and support you as and when required.
Talk, ramble, moan all you like. Even if you just want to know 'there is someone out there'
'Cos we are buddy. We are.
Somebody else mentioned some sort of craft work - such as sewing, knitting etc. Whilst there are all good alternatives, for a chap who is obviously of the PH persuasion, knocking together a plastic aeroplane or a car is probably more matched to the mindset.
And it doesn't even matter if you build it well or badly
It's the act of making something, and concentrating on something other than one's particular predicament, that makes the exercise therapeutic.
Impasse said:
I'd be surprised if an MHC would allow sharps such as knitting needles, craft knives or even scissors on the ward, bearing in mind phone chargers are kept secure because of the (flimsy) leads.
Exactly what I was thinking. Plus, I doubt the warders give the crazies access to the internet anyway. But hey, what do I know.I know it sounds totally f
king nerdy, but others have suggested Civ5, so...
Learn a programming language. If you already know programming languages, learn one you don't. There's so much you can learn, all of which builds on each other. It will help to structure your thinking, and give you a genuine feeling of "NAILED IT" when you get it right. If you're allowed your own machine, you should be able to download something like Visual Studio Express within your few minutes of online-time - and then you can work your way up from something that prints out "Hello, world!" (which will take you bloody ages to write) to something which can actually do something useful.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
king nerdy, but others have suggested Civ5, so...Learn a programming language. If you already know programming languages, learn one you don't. There's so much you can learn, all of which builds on each other. It will help to structure your thinking, and give you a genuine feeling of "NAILED IT" when you get it right. If you're allowed your own machine, you should be able to download something like Visual Studio Express within your few minutes of online-time - and then you can work your way up from something that prints out "Hello, world!" (which will take you bloody ages to write) to something which can actually do something useful.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Ali Chappussy said:
Impasse said:
I'd be surprised if an MHC would allow sharps such as knitting needles, craft knives or even scissors on the ward, bearing in mind phone chargers are kept secure because of the (flimsy) leads.
Exactly what I was thinking. Plus, I doubt the warders give the crazies access to the internet anyway. But hey, what do I know.There were a handful of PCs on my ward (all peripherals were behind perspex and the mouse was a roller ball inset into the desk surface) but they were heavily locked down to the point of uselessness. Something as inoffensive and text based as PH would be blocked, so they weren't much help as a way of passing the time, mainly because the frustration of attempting to use them generated more angst than anything else. My phone chomped its way through a lot of data during those six weeks.
There's no way I would been allowed an Airfix (or similar) kit even in this age of non-toxic adhesives and paints. I made extensive use of the modest library.
There's no way I would been allowed an Airfix (or similar) kit even in this age of non-toxic adhesives and paints. I made extensive use of the modest library.
Vaud said:
NeMiSiS said:
I thought Luxemburg was a radio station...ah well.
It is possible to drive through the country, blink, and miss it.Much nicer over the border in Germany, Belgium or France
Vaud said:
Adenauer said:
Best of luck to you, OP.
If you need anything German sending to you to help pass the time drop me an Email, I'd be happy to help
Ditto UK stuff. If you want some magazines to read, or newspapers, etc, just PM me.If you need anything German sending to you to help pass the time drop me an Email, I'd be happy to help
And God knows the Germans are good at risqué. Ti*ty mags are something else over here.
Adenauer, as man of impeccable taste, what would you recommend ?
Vaud, what pervy stuff can you get in the UK that us continentals can't get our hands on ?
Impasse said:
I'd be surprised if an MHC would allow sharps such as knitting needles, craft knives or even scissors on the ward, bearing in mind phone chargers are kept secure because of the (flimsy) leads.
There is arts and crafts though I am restricted to painting and drawing, due to my suicide attempt last year I am not allowed to use anything sharp (the kitchen knives here can't even cut through bread and before it's confiscated I thought I'd leave my Leatherman in the car).Weird since I didn't try to cut myself to death.
My phone charging cable is actually too short to hang or strangle myself, so no problem there.
CharlieCrocodile said:
Silly question - are you allowed to take in your own computer? My eldest was admitted (either that or be sectioned) in May and one of the first things he took was a laptop, might be worth asking anyway.
Charlie, not a silly question at all. I have brought my own laptop so can play video games, but no access to WiFi or anything - strictly offline stuff. I get to use the public computer here a few minutes every couple of days so I can take care of bank stuff and PH.NeMiSiS said:
Remember don't set any targets, release dates can change, home visits from your CPN or Crisis team are limited now.
I should imagine you are well past the 15min op's stage, but you will still be monitored even if you don't know it, your behavoral notes will be used to help you at a later date, or used against you depending on how you see it.
Be aware that your bi-daily meetings are structured to trigger certain reactions, these reactions good or bad are logged and examined.
It is common practice to be allowed 'out' on daily release for a given time, this is usually a week before the powers that be think you are OK to leave permanently, but you are usually released with conditions and support.
Try to keep away from the loonies, the hard core no hopers, they will tell you things you should never hear, and show you things you should not see, a few hours a day in the presence of these poor people will fog your mind for life. You will know these people and pity them, but if you are at a low ebb they will destroy you.
First release date was to be September 8th, this got moved to October 8th yesterday due to bad suicidal tendencies, so no illusions there. I hope to be out for my son's birthday in November, or at least be allowed (by the clinic and his mother) to visit him.I should imagine you are well past the 15min op's stage, but you will still be monitored even if you don't know it, your behavoral notes will be used to help you at a later date, or used against you depending on how you see it.
Be aware that your bi-daily meetings are structured to trigger certain reactions, these reactions good or bad are logged and examined.
It is common practice to be allowed 'out' on daily release for a given time, this is usually a week before the powers that be think you are OK to leave permanently, but you are usually released with conditions and support.
Try to keep away from the loonies, the hard core no hopers, they will tell you things you should never hear, and show you things you should not see, a few hours a day in the presence of these poor people will fog your mind for life. You will know these people and pity them, but if you are at a low ebb they will destroy you.
I miss the little man enormously.
I did notice that they try to trigger certain emotions and reactions, and if it helps, I'm ready to be a part of it.
I went to the clinic's gym and took it out on a punching bag yesterday, resulting in scratches on my elbows, knees and knuckles as well as a swollen hand - I told my therapist this and he's agreed that it wasn't to hurt myself, rather than to blow off steam, so at least I'm still allowed there (albeit with boxing gloves).
Other than that, I can't complain actually. Food's better than what I can cook up at home, most people are cool.
Though I do know exactly what people you are talking about, and most other patients steer clear of them as well.
Thank you again for all the support people of PH, and sorry if I didn't quote and reply to all the posts, I do read them all, but time is very short.
So short in fact I have to log off again.
Until next time.
MarvGTI said:
Adenauer, as man of impeccable taste, what would you recommend ?
Knock yourself out, Marv Actually, don't do that.
Oh my God, what have I said???
http://d-b-z.de/web/
ETA: Oh and, fingers crossed it all works out for you
Edited by Adenauer on Tuesday 29th July 13:15
Just thinking out loud, and if this is silly I'm sure I'll be told in a matter of seconds by fellow ph'ers- but if you can only get online for brief periods of time, would the scanning of EVO or whatever by myself and/or others and then sending it to your email so you can save it to the hard drive (thus being able to read it offline) be of any use to you? My work is so quiet I'd happily do that for you... As I'm sure would others here
Edited by mug81 on Wednesday 30th July 02:00
I don't think it's right for the mods to have moved this into Health Matters, it's clearly a thread for the OP to have a daily catch up with banter and all that whilst he's going through a difficult time in a Mental Health Clinic.
I think it should be moved back into The Lounge, he's not asking for help, he needs support.
I think it should be moved back into The Lounge, he's not asking for help, he needs support.
Adenauer said:
I don't think it's right for the mods to have moved this into Health Matters, it's clearly a thread for the OP to have a daily catch up with banter and all that whilst he's going through a difficult time in a Mental Health Clinic.
I think it should be moved back into The Lounge, he's not asking for help, he needs support.
I think it should be moved back into The Lounge, he's not asking for help, he needs support.
ali_kat said:
Agreed!
ArsE92 said:
+50
Talk about sticking the boot in!
Talk about sticking the boot in!
NeMiSiS said:
I agree, shirley it should have been moved to Scale Models.
I agree with all of you, but if that's the way it is, then that's the way it is.Since there was a lot of talk about videogames, maybe it should be moved into that section as well ?
Or perhaps start a new section in the P&P about stamps as per Adenauer's last link (I was actually afraid to click on it!!)
And don't call me Shirley.
mug81 said:
Just thinking out loud, and if this is silly I'm sure I'll be told in a matter of seconds by fellow ph'ers- but if you can only get online for brief periods of time, would the scanning of EVO or whatever by myself and/or others and then sending it to your email so you can save it to the hard drive (thus being able to read it offline) be of any use to you? My work is so quiet I'd happily do that for you... As I'm sure would others here
PMed you mug81, thank you very much!!!!Edited by mug81 on Wednesday 30th July 02:00
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