July 26th 2014. Day 17 at the Mental Health Clinic.
Discussion
OP - I wish you all the best with your recovery and ongoing good health.
Good suggestion about learning the guitar except perhaps they may not let you have one fgiventhe alternative uses that could be made of thin metal strings.
However, an anecdote. A little known bloke called Vince Furnier had a serious drink problem many years ago. Clinics specialising in addictions did not exist in those days, so he was put into an institution where there were people with all sorts of illnesses and exhibitions of behaviour.
He observed the other patients and wrote an entire album of songs about the nurses, other "inmates" and his fears on getting out. That album is called "From The Inside" and Vince is better known as Alice Cooper. Maybe you may want to do something yourself along these lines, whether a diary, story or poetry/lyrics to be augmented with music when your return back to the mad world outside!
It's not a bad little album by the way, great titles like Serious, Nurse Rosetta, Jacknife Johnny and The Quiet Room, and some of the lyrics are quite amusing in retrospect of his situation. Not his most famous work, but a real insight to his stay getting fixed and probably worth a listen. "How You Gonna See Me Now" expresses certain fears on coming home, a very deep and emotional lyric. "School's Out" it most certainly isn't!
Although I do not envy your situation, I know that I would probably be doing something along these lines given the time and specific observation potential of folks that are probably a lot less fortunate than you or I.
Whatever you decide to do, make sure you take the time to enjoy it as best as you can, and it sets you up for something new and interesting to continue when you are back "On The Outside" again.
Good luck fella.
Good suggestion about learning the guitar except perhaps they may not let you have one fgiventhe alternative uses that could be made of thin metal strings.
However, an anecdote. A little known bloke called Vince Furnier had a serious drink problem many years ago. Clinics specialising in addictions did not exist in those days, so he was put into an institution where there were people with all sorts of illnesses and exhibitions of behaviour.
He observed the other patients and wrote an entire album of songs about the nurses, other "inmates" and his fears on getting out. That album is called "From The Inside" and Vince is better known as Alice Cooper. Maybe you may want to do something yourself along these lines, whether a diary, story or poetry/lyrics to be augmented with music when your return back to the mad world outside!
It's not a bad little album by the way, great titles like Serious, Nurse Rosetta, Jacknife Johnny and The Quiet Room, and some of the lyrics are quite amusing in retrospect of his situation. Not his most famous work, but a real insight to his stay getting fixed and probably worth a listen. "How You Gonna See Me Now" expresses certain fears on coming home, a very deep and emotional lyric. "School's Out" it most certainly isn't!
Although I do not envy your situation, I know that I would probably be doing something along these lines given the time and specific observation potential of folks that are probably a lot less fortunate than you or I.
Whatever you decide to do, make sure you take the time to enjoy it as best as you can, and it sets you up for something new and interesting to continue when you are back "On The Outside" again.
Good luck fella.
Shout out to the mods for putting it back in The Lounge, thanks a lot guys!!!
If not, it might be down to the crappy ISDN internet connection - they haven't heard of DSL or whatever else there is here in the Bavarian mountains.
I did get an email from Vaud though, so if you wanted to mail me, that should work ?
As for #2, it's a good idea that's been suggested a few times, I've asked the caretakers if this is possible and if it involves, it's a no-go, if it involves glue, it's a no-go for us suicidals as we could attempt to swallow it...
there is access to drums and bongos though, so that's cool.
I don't know much about AC, but I will check out this album - even though we don't share the drinking problem (yet), this might very insightful.
I am writing silly poetry here and do keep a little notebook on me at all times into which I write my thoughts, but right now it's too chaotic to be put in a coherent text. If I find some emotional calm I might attempt to compile it all.
Thanks again for all the support lads, it really touches me!!!
mug81 said:
Haven't received anything..?
Sent another, did you get that ?If not, it might be down to the crappy ISDN internet connection - they haven't heard of DSL or whatever else there is here in the Bavarian mountains.
I did get an email from Vaud though, so if you wanted to mail me, that should work ?
oddball1973 said:
#1 Start to learn the guitar
Would love to learn the axe, but as SeeFive mentions, there is a good reason we're not allowed.- 2 Make a model (planes, tank, cars whatever floats your boat) - I can lose a whole day when I get the time to model
As for #2, it's a good idea that's been suggested a few times, I've asked the caretakers if this is possible and if it involves, it's a no-go, if it involves glue, it's a no-go for us suicidals as we could attempt to swallow it...
SeeFive said:
OP - I wish you all the best with your recovery and ongoing good health.
Good suggestion about learning the guitar except perhaps they may not let you have one fgiventhe alternative uses that could be made of thin metal strings.
However, an anecdote. A little known bloke called Vince Furnier had a serious drink problem many years ago. Clinics specialising in addictions did not exist in those days, so he was put into an institution where there were people with all sorts of illnesses and exhibitions of behaviour.
He observed the other patients and wrote an entire album of songs about the nurses, other "inmates" and his fears on getting out. That album is called "From The Inside" and Vince is better known as Alice Cooper. Maybe you may want to do something yourself along these lines, whether a diary, story or poetry/lyrics to be augmented with music when your return back to the mad world outside!
It's not a bad little album by the way, great titles like Serious, Nurse Rosetta, Jacknife Johnny and The Quiet Room, and some of the lyrics are quite amusing in retrospect of his situation. Not his most famous work, but a real insight to his stay getting fixed and probably worth a listen. "How You Gonna See Me Now" expresses certain fears on coming home, a very deep and emotional lyric. "School's Out" it most certainly isn't!
Although I do not envy your situation, I know that I would probably be doing something along these lines given the time and specific observation potential of folks that are probably a lot less fortunate than you or I.
Whatever you decide to do, make sure you take the time to enjoy it as best as you can, and it sets you up for something new and interesting to continue when you are back "On The Outside" again.
Good luck fella.
That's the exact reason I am not allowed a guitar, not even to take it to the woods and pass the time Good suggestion about learning the guitar except perhaps they may not let you have one fgiventhe alternative uses that could be made of thin metal strings.
However, an anecdote. A little known bloke called Vince Furnier had a serious drink problem many years ago. Clinics specialising in addictions did not exist in those days, so he was put into an institution where there were people with all sorts of illnesses and exhibitions of behaviour.
He observed the other patients and wrote an entire album of songs about the nurses, other "inmates" and his fears on getting out. That album is called "From The Inside" and Vince is better known as Alice Cooper. Maybe you may want to do something yourself along these lines, whether a diary, story or poetry/lyrics to be augmented with music when your return back to the mad world outside!
It's not a bad little album by the way, great titles like Serious, Nurse Rosetta, Jacknife Johnny and The Quiet Room, and some of the lyrics are quite amusing in retrospect of his situation. Not his most famous work, but a real insight to his stay getting fixed and probably worth a listen. "How You Gonna See Me Now" expresses certain fears on coming home, a very deep and emotional lyric. "School's Out" it most certainly isn't!
Although I do not envy your situation, I know that I would probably be doing something along these lines given the time and specific observation potential of folks that are probably a lot less fortunate than you or I.
Whatever you decide to do, make sure you take the time to enjoy it as best as you can, and it sets you up for something new and interesting to continue when you are back "On The Outside" again.
Good luck fella.
there is access to drums and bongos though, so that's cool.I don't know much about AC, but I will check out this album - even though we don't share the drinking problem (yet), this might very insightful.
I am writing silly poetry here and do keep a little notebook on me at all times into which I write my thoughts, but right now it's too chaotic to be put in a coherent text. If I find some emotional calm I might attempt to compile it all.
Thanks again for all the support lads, it really touches me!!!
Hey Marv,
I'm genuinely sorry to see this thread from you. Are you in Ettlebruck? I'm currently away, but back in Lux on 8/8, so if you need or want anything, I'm more than happy to get it and come by and visit you.
You have my (work) email - change the end to @gmail.com for my personal addy - and you've my mobile number already.
If you want some models to build, that can be arranged too, but I'd rather not visit the Gare area for some of Adenauer's ideas.
Drop me a line!
Russell
I'm genuinely sorry to see this thread from you. Are you in Ettlebruck? I'm currently away, but back in Lux on 8/8, so if you need or want anything, I'm more than happy to get it and come by and visit you.
You have my (work) email - change the end to @gmail.com for my personal addy - and you've my mobile number already.
If you want some models to build, that can be arranged too, but I'd rather not visit the Gare area for some of Adenauer's ideas.
Drop me a line!
Russell
guards red said:
Nothing much to add but best of luck mate. Hope the sun is shinning on you where ever you are.
Thanks mate, the sun is shining here, I'll try to get some of it as well mug81 said:
Email sent (I hope!)
mug81 said:
Just checked again, haven't received anything. Ping me a text, whatsapp of whatever on 07598 603864
Tim, got your email and replied just now, sorry mate I didn't access the internet yesterday, crappy and busy (in equal measures) day.Saved your number so I can harrass you with texts at impossible times
5potTurbo said:
Hey Marv,
I'm genuinely sorry to see this thread from you. Are you in Ettlebruck? I'm currently away, but back in Lux on 8/8, so if you need or want anything, I'm more than happy to get it and come by and visit you.
You have my (work) email - change the end to @gmail.com for my personal addy - and you've my mobile number already.
If you want some models to build, that can be arranged too, but I'd rather not visit the Gare area for some of Adenauer's ideas.
Drop me a line!
Russell
Oy Russ,I'm genuinely sorry to see this thread from you. Are you in Ettlebruck? I'm currently away, but back in Lux on 8/8, so if you need or want anything, I'm more than happy to get it and come by and visit you.
You have my (work) email - change the end to @gmail.com for my personal addy - and you've my mobile number already.
If you want some models to build, that can be arranged too, but I'd rather not visit the Gare area for some of Adenauer's ideas.
Drop me a line!
Russell
Not in Ettelbruck, was going to have to go there but spending 3 months being constantly monitored in a video room due to suicidal tendencies is not my idea of helpful therapy...
I'm in Bavaria about 430km away from Esch, nice to get a change of scenery and people!
Not allowed to build models, but I am very glad to have this thread to come back to catch up on some banter with real men (women-men quota here about 80-20, ain't as cool as it sounds).
How's the Fiesta doing ? Not missing the 5 cyl sound too much ?
The Lupo's off the road for the time being, no use keeping it registered and taxed if it ain't moving, but we do have to catch up on that drive
Glad you contributed to this thread my friend.
MarvGTI said:
Thanks for all the kind words gents, it really does help.
Kinda tells a lot about the world when I get more encouraging words from 'strangers' on a motoring forum than my friends and family back home.
I agree that mental health, paricularly male, is oft underrated - I have always been told and taught that the man has to be strong and repress his emotions, guess where that got me.
Spare rooms here are sparse, and the waiting list is long, but they offer quite a few cool courses that I plan on taking up in the coming weeks (here until at least September 8th), have access to a drawing room where I can just go wild, and doing a lot of hiking in the Bavarian woodlands around the clinic.
Know what it's like generally, been inside a few times although for much shorter periods. In some ways it's quite nice, in that you can just switch off from normal life and problems there. However I was in a quite small place, and we were allowed laptops with internet access for periods during the day. Kinda tells a lot about the world when I get more encouraging words from 'strangers' on a motoring forum than my friends and family back home.
I agree that mental health, paricularly male, is oft underrated - I have always been told and taught that the man has to be strong and repress his emotions, guess where that got me.
Spare rooms here are sparse, and the waiting list is long, but they offer quite a few cool courses that I plan on taking up in the coming weeks (here until at least September 8th), have access to a drawing room where I can just go wild, and doing a lot of hiking in the Bavarian woodlands around the clinic.
One of the things that can be interesting (depending who you are with) is talking to the others - find out about their life etc. Many will have interesting stories to tell, and particularly in mental health stuff you find out they've done some amazing stuff sometimes before their time inside (or between). In my experience people are more honest - they know they are messed up and so don't pretend to be "normal". One of the other things I really enjoyed was going for walks out in nature, and just looking at the small details - some of the stuff is really cool when you just take the time (but this also depends on your mental state at the time, it doesn't always work when your brain is in overdrive).
In regards to family - I think it is much harder for them than people on the internet, as often they are much more affected by our behavior (for example the bipolar behaviour which I know too well, despite being relatively "mild" compared to some). It could be they are just crappy people, but it's not always that simple. I know I put some close friends through so much bad stuff, some of which I didn't realise until a long time after when I was in a stable period and could see how messed up my thinking was.
Also some people really don't get mental illness - for them it's not real, as they can't see the plaster cast or anything like that. "You're just trying to get attention" and stuff like that doesn't help at all when it is a result of messed up chemicals in the brain affecting who you are etc.
Better stop here, but as with others if you want to talk then send a PM,
mug81 said:
Just checked again, haven't received anything. Ping me a text, whatsapp of whatever on ****
Probably worth removing your number now that he's saved it (you get bots scanning for numbers for spam etc).Reading this has slightly blown my mind. I've never really put any thought into Mental Health Clinics and who goes, so thank you for posting.
They sound like a great idea and it already sounds like it is giving you a lot of benefit.
Hopefully you can clear you mind and hopefully find peace
I'll be keeping and eye out for this thread, all the best.
They sound like a great idea and it already sounds like it is giving you a lot of benefit.
Hopefully you can clear you mind and hopefully find peace
I'll be keeping and eye out for this thread, all the best.
StottyEvo said:
Reading this has slightly blown my mind. I've never really put any thought into Mental Health Clinics and who goes, so thank you for posting.
They sound like a great idea and it already sounds like it is giving you a lot of benefit.
Hopefully you can clear you mind and hopefully find peace
I'll be keeping and eye out for this thread, all the best.
Yeah, it's often very different from preconceptions that people have. Some places may be white coats etc., but where I was it was a bit like a hostel with your own room and the main doors were locked, plus what you have have is limited. A lot of the people would appear normal outside, just their head is screwed up due to the chemicals (often linked with stuff in their life). So it results in them being messed up and need to be checked up on for their own sake. Also they will have interviews every day to see how things are. This will also help diagnose you when you first come in. They sound like a great idea and it already sounds like it is giving you a lot of benefit.
Hopefully you can clear you mind and hopefully find peace
I'll be keeping and eye out for this thread, all the best.
With something like bipolar you wouldn't recognise them as having a mental condition most of the time. They mentioned quite a lot of the people are smart/ creative successful people - as well as having negative effects some of the messed up brain stuff can also result in positives during other periods. For example one of the people I was talking to said that he'd relatively often met a member of one of the more famous music bands (in Norway) there.
Sorry gents if I haven't been to this thread in a while, but I've been having a difficult few days.
Physically not doing too well, been bitten by a snake (damn right) which left half my left hand paralyzed for a few days, and Wednesday I had to go to the hospital again with a potentially broken thumb due to another patient not having the necessary hand-eye coordination when doing aggression therapy with bamboo sticks and hitting my thumb hard three times.
It's not broken though, it's just badly bruised, swollen and hurts like hell.
The stuff that happens here...
Not as easy as Kirchberg to get to but all the more beautiful
With something like bipolar you wouldn't recognise them as having a mental condition most of the time. They mentioned quite a lot of the people are smart/ creative successful people - as well as having negative effects some of the messed up brain stuff can also result in positives during other periods. For example one of the people I was talking to said that he'd relatively often met a member of one of the more famous music bands (in Norway) there.NRS, Scotty, I agree that it is not talked about enough in today's society, and most people back home wouldn't know us patients had mental illnesses because we are practically have to conceal them in public.
The worst are the days where you feel like absolute crap but still have to go out, do the weekly shopping etc, because society's conventions force little exchanges upon you like where you have to pretend to be well ('How are you?' 'Doing okay, thanks.') even though you're literally broken on the inside.
The clinic here allows you some freedoms which is great, I can't imagine being properly locked in a room for days on end will help anyone.
We have a lot of therapy but a lot of down time inbetween as well where we get to exercise, socialize and the like - this makes therapy more bearable even though we have to be careful not to try and do therapy on ourselves.
All in all, it's much more enjoyable than I'd thought, but in the end, it's a MHC full of depressed people.
I'm very glad this thread is getting some great input - thanks to everybody who has contributed so far, and to those who've 'only' read it without commenting.
I wish all of you a nice weekend and be back soon!
Physically not doing too well, been bitten by a snake (damn right) which left half my left hand paralyzed for a few days, and Wednesday I had to go to the hospital again with a potentially broken thumb due to another patient not having the necessary hand-eye coordination when doing aggression therapy with bamboo sticks and hitting my thumb hard three times.
It's not broken though, it's just badly bruised, swollen and hurts like hell.
The stuff that happens here...
5potTurbo said:
Bavaria? Holy moly!
Err, not quite so easy for me to pop by and visit then, huh?
Fiesta's going well, thanks, and yes, we do need to get out on that drive, so do let me know when you're back in LuLuLand.
Keep busy, and if you can get outside, get some exercise whenever you can.
Russ,Err, not quite so easy for me to pop by and visit then, huh?
Fiesta's going well, thanks, and yes, we do need to get out on that drive, so do let me know when you're back in LuLuLand.
Keep busy, and if you can get outside, get some exercise whenever you can.
Not as easy as Kirchberg to get to but all the more beautiful
The Crack Fox said:
Hello Marv, good on you for posting this, mental health issues affect so many people yet it isn't spoken about enough, particularly by blokes. Good luck in getting life back on track.
TCF, thank you very much NRS said:
StottyEvo said:
Reading this has slightly blown my mind. I've never really put any thought into Mental Health Clinics and who goes, so thank you for posting.
They sound like a great idea and it already sounds like it is giving you a lot of benefit.
Hopefully you can clear you mind and hopefully find peace
I'll be keeping and eye out for this thread, all the best.
Yeah, it's often very different from preconceptions that people have. Some places may be white coats etc., but where I was it was a bit like a hostel with your own room and the main doors were locked, plus what you have have is limited. A lot of the people would appear normal outside, just their head is screwed up due to the chemicals (often linked with stuff in their life). So it results in them being messed up and need to be checked up on for their own sake. Also they will have interviews every day to see how things are. This will also help diagnose you when you first come in. They sound like a great idea and it already sounds like it is giving you a lot of benefit.
Hopefully you can clear you mind and hopefully find peace
I'll be keeping and eye out for this thread, all the best.
With something like bipolar you wouldn't recognise them as having a mental condition most of the time. They mentioned quite a lot of the people are smart/ creative successful people - as well as having negative effects some of the messed up brain stuff can also result in positives during other periods. For example one of the people I was talking to said that he'd relatively often met a member of one of the more famous music bands (in Norway) there.
The worst are the days where you feel like absolute crap but still have to go out, do the weekly shopping etc, because society's conventions force little exchanges upon you like where you have to pretend to be well ('How are you?' 'Doing okay, thanks.') even though you're literally broken on the inside.
The clinic here allows you some freedoms which is great, I can't imagine being properly locked in a room for days on end will help anyone.
We have a lot of therapy but a lot of down time inbetween as well where we get to exercise, socialize and the like - this makes therapy more bearable even though we have to be careful not to try and do therapy on ourselves.
All in all, it's much more enjoyable than I'd thought, but in the end, it's a MHC full of depressed people.
I'm very glad this thread is getting some great input - thanks to everybody who has contributed so far, and to those who've 'only' read it without commenting.
I wish all of you a nice weekend and be back soon!
I'm someone on the outside, who (thanking his lucky stars) has not so far had any dealings with issues of this kind.
To me, the way you describe the place makes it sound like an open prison. You are locked up, allowed recreation within strict boundaries, etc. Do you find this to be the case, and if so, is it helpful? Because to my ears, it doesn't sound like it possibly could be.
I hope you take this the way it's meant - not in an insensitive way.
To me, the way you describe the place makes it sound like an open prison. You are locked up, allowed recreation within strict boundaries, etc. Do you find this to be the case, and if so, is it helpful? Because to my ears, it doesn't sound like it possibly could be.
I hope you take this the way it's meant - not in an insensitive way.
Marv...how long are you in for? Im back in Munich in a cpl of weeks probably. Ill drop by and say hello if you want a chat with another f
ked up Depressive car nut. Im a fully paid up member of the funny farm brigade. I tend to avoid them by the wonderfully advanced treatment of wandering the streets screaming Im Not Dead Yet! Its worked so far
ked up Depressive car nut. Im a fully paid up member of the funny farm brigade. I tend to avoid them by the wonderfully advanced treatment of wandering the streets screaming Im Not Dead Yet! Its worked so far Usget said:
I'm someone on the outside, who (thanking his lucky stars) has not so far had any dealings with issues of this kind.
To me, the way you describe the place makes it sound like an open prison. You are locked up, allowed recreation within strict boundaries, etc. Do you find this to be the case, and if so, is it helpful? Because to my ears, it doesn't sound like it possibly could be.
I hope you take this the way it's meant - not in an insensitive way.
That's in a way how it is. However it's not as bad as it seems though - at least for me. Generally if you end up in there you are really screwed up, so it's good that they look after you to stop you hurting yourself etc. For example now thinking about it suicide is completely stupid, yet for the time when I was there suicide seems to me like it would help friends and family, as although it would hurt them now I would make it far worse over my life by living so it was best to end it all. That's the kind of stuff your brain can make you think. And that's related to the chemicals, so by looking after you in those periods when the chemicals are worst it can be good. But it's getting the balance right - white lab coats and no contact would be terrible I imagine.To me, the way you describe the place makes it sound like an open prison. You are locked up, allowed recreation within strict boundaries, etc. Do you find this to be the case, and if so, is it helpful? Because to my ears, it doesn't sound like it possibly could be.
I hope you take this the way it's meant - not in an insensitive way.
You're not allowed glue or guitar strings, but have access to snakes...?
Has learning (another) foreign language been suggested? Guess you're at least bilingual, but is Spanish or Mandarin an option, with a promise to yourself you'll visit South America or Asia as soon as you're able?
Realise that you're posting here mainly to get ideas for entertainment or some banter, and I guess it's cathartic as well, but I'm just another person wanting to say thanks - quite eye-opening for me, and I hope you achieve what you want / need to in there and can get back to something approaching normality soon.
Has learning (another) foreign language been suggested? Guess you're at least bilingual, but is Spanish or Mandarin an option, with a promise to yourself you'll visit South America or Asia as soon as you're able?
Realise that you're posting here mainly to get ideas for entertainment or some banter, and I guess it's cathartic as well, but I'm just another person wanting to say thanks - quite eye-opening for me, and I hope you achieve what you want / need to in there and can get back to something approaching normality soon.
Usget said:
I'm someone on the outside, who (thanking his lucky stars) has not so far had any dealings with issues of this kind.
To me, the way you describe the place makes it sound like an open prison. You are locked up, allowed recreation within strict boundaries, etc. Do you find this to be the case, and if so, is it helpful? Because to my ears, it doesn't sound like it possibly could be.
I hope you take this the way it's meant - not in an insensitive way.
Usget, it might seem like an open prison, but the place in my mind I'm stuck in is worse - an open prison that is actually closed, if you get what I mean.To me, the way you describe the place makes it sound like an open prison. You are locked up, allowed recreation within strict boundaries, etc. Do you find this to be the case, and if so, is it helpful? Because to my ears, it doesn't sound like it possibly could be.
I hope you take this the way it's meant - not in an insensitive way.
The boundaries aren't actually all that strict, I exercise for 2 hours a day, 6 days a week and they actually do give us a lot of freedom and not every activity is supervised.
The illusion of actual freedom is well presented.
The prison without walls idea works well if you accept it, and I find that personally, I can use it to great effect - my thoughts are easier to keep in check if I'm kept in check, if that makes any sense.
NRS said:
That's in a way how it is. However it's not as bad as it seems though - at least for me. Generally if you end up in there you are really screwed up, so it's good that they look after you to stop you hurting yourself etc. For example now thinking about it suicide is completely stupid, yet for the time when I was there suicide seems to me like it would help friends and family, as although it would hurt them now I would make it far worse over my life by living so it was best to end it all. That's the kind of stuff your brain can make you think. And that's related to the chemicals, so by looking after you in those periods when the chemicals are worst it can be good. But it's getting the balance right - white lab coats and no contact would be terrible I imagine.
NRS, can only agree with what you say - I am trying to get it out of my head that suicide will make everything better for those around me, but I always try to explain that I want to kill myself not because I want to die, but because I don't want to live anymore.Thank you very much for your input to this thread!
Charvet said:
Hi Marvin I am going down to Zurich tomorrow, anything I can do? Do you need German stuff, PM me.
Salut Guy, thanks for the offer, but I wouldn't want to impose did you manage to find a car that suits your senses btw ?DJRC said:
Marv...how long are you in for? Im back in Munich in a cpl of weeks probably. Ill drop by and say hello if you want a chat with another fked up Depressive car nut. Im a fully paid up member of the funny farm brigade. I tend to avoid them by the wonderfully advanced treatment of wandering the streets screaming Im Not Dead Yet! Its worked so far
DJRC, that would be great, I'll be here for another 6 to 8 weeks so got all the time in the world - it's actually a bit further away from Munich though, in Franken in Oberbayern!ked up Depressive car nut. Im a fully paid up member of the funny farm brigade. I tend to avoid them by the wonderfully advanced treatment of wandering the streets screaming Im Not Dead Yet! Its worked so far f
ked up depressive car nut would be an awesome band name as well!SWAT78 said:
You're not allowed glue or guitar strings, but have access to snakes...?
Has learning (another) foreign language been suggested? Guess you're at least bilingual, but is Spanish or Mandarin an option, with a promise to yourself you'll visit South America or Asia as soon as you're able?
Realise that you're posting here mainly to get ideas for entertainment or some banter, and I guess it's cathartic as well, but I'm just another person wanting to say thanks - quite eye-opening for me, and I hope you achieve what you want / need to in there and can get back to something approaching normality soon.
Lots of woodlands around the clinic, lots of mice and squirrels wandering about so the predators are never far away SWAT hahaHas learning (another) foreign language been suggested? Guess you're at least bilingual, but is Spanish or Mandarin an option, with a promise to yourself you'll visit South America or Asia as soon as you're able?
Realise that you're posting here mainly to get ideas for entertainment or some banter, and I guess it's cathartic as well, but I'm just another person wanting to say thanks - quite eye-opening for me, and I hope you achieve what you want / need to in there and can get back to something approaching normality soon.
I am taking up Dutch as another language (will be my 6th language) as I am toying with the idea of moving to Amsterdam sometime when I get out of here and back into a stable rhythm.
It is very cathartic and it's awesome that so many contribute to this thread, I am in all of you guys' debts.
Anyways, this is it for today, as tonight I am taking a very nice, charming, intelligent and achingly pretty girl I met here out for a hopefully romantic dinner - I'll let you know how it goes.
Gents,
Sorry for the late update, but with the last few days rainy and stormy here the computers were constantly occupied and no access to the web was to be gained.
I had some dissociation experiences these last few days due to a very spiritual encounter with an elderly lady (I am no spiritual person but this cannot be denied) which feel like hallucinations or fever dreams and I just pass out. One of these experiences has led me to injure my hands gravely so a new problem has arisen.
The date with the young lady went exquisitely well and we are taking our time in getting to know each other before committing to a relationship (she is a patient here as well)
She has also spent the night, but a gentleman wouldn't kiss and tell now, would he.
Sorry for the late update, but with the last few days rainy and stormy here the computers were constantly occupied and no access to the web was to be gained.
I had some dissociation experiences these last few days due to a very spiritual encounter with an elderly lady (I am no spiritual person but this cannot be denied) which feel like hallucinations or fever dreams and I just pass out. One of these experiences has led me to injure my hands gravely so a new problem has arisen.
The date with the young lady went exquisitely well and we are taking our time in getting to know each other before committing to a relationship (she is a patient here as well)
She has also spent the night, but a gentleman wouldn't kiss and tell now, would he.
Sounds a rather risky endeavour to get involved with someone who perhaps has personal mental health issues when you are striving to overcome your own.
Of course, you may be able to share your mutual burdens so there might be some positive aspects to it - but I wonder what might happen if she starts leaning too much on you for support - or vise versa.
Of course, you may be able to share your mutual burdens so there might be some positive aspects to it - but I wonder what might happen if she starts leaning too much on you for support - or vise versa.
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