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Hooli said:
At our old house they'd move the bins six foot across the alley & pretend they were in the wrong place. Oddly enough, it only happened with heavy bins.
Yesterday morning they refused to pick up from a lot of our neighbours as their bins had blown over in the wind. As they were all at work the 76-year old lady next door had to go round picking them all up and putting spilled rubbish back into them. While the binmen watched what she was doing.I advised her to complain to the Council, but I doubt anything will be done about it.
Blast from the past, but you need to SORN or tax a "Mechanically propelled vehicle".
It didn't have an engine...
It didn't have an engine...
98elise said:
Its not the same. Its more like saying what if I turn a real tank into a movie prop. You would need to have the gun deactivated.
You can't just decide yourself when something is exempt from being certified, licenced or subject to legal control.
You can't just decide yourself when something is exempt from being certified, licenced or subject to legal control.
drivin_me_nuts said:
... If there was an alternative to the post office that actually served modern working hours, I think the coup de grace for the post office would be but a handful of years away.
funnily enough the post office that is in our local tesco's is open till 8 during the week, and until 5 on a saturday and sunday (yes sunday)Moonhawk said:
Not stupid - jobsworthy.
The difference between a stupid person and jobsworthy one is that the stupid person doesn't know what rules/guidance are in place or what they should be doing - whereas the jobsworthy one knows only too well and follows them to the letter even if it means being bloody minded and defying common sense in the process.
I know entire departments like that. The difference between a stupid person and jobsworthy one is that the stupid person doesn't know what rules/guidance are in place or what they should be doing - whereas the jobsworthy one knows only too well and follows them to the letter even if it means being bloody minded and defying common sense in the process.
DeuxCentCinq said:
Hooli said:
At our old house they'd move the bins six foot across the alley & pretend they were in the wrong place. Oddly enough, it only happened with heavy bins.
Yesterday morning they refused to pick up from a lot of our neighbours as their bins had blown over in the wind. As they were all at work the 76-year old lady next door had to go round picking them all up and putting spilled rubbish back into them. While the binmen watched what she was doing.I advised her to complain to the Council, but I doubt anything will be done about it.
jesta1865 said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
... If there was an alternative to the post office that actually served modern working hours, I think the coup de grace for the post office would be but a handful of years away.
funnily enough the post office that is in our local tesco's is open till 8 during the week, and until 5 on a saturday and sunday (yes sunday)DeuxCentCinq said:
Yesterday morning they refused to pick up from a lot of our neighbours as their bins had blown over in the wind. As they were all at work the 76-year old lady next door had to go round picking them all up and putting spilled rubbish back into them. While the binmen watched what she was doing.
I advised her to complain to the Council, but I doubt anything will be done about it.
"...Elf n Safety darlin"I advised her to complain to the Council, but I doubt anything will be done about it.
DeuxCentCinq said:
Yesterday morning they refused to pick up from a lot of our neighbours as their bins had blown over in the wind. As they were all at work the 76-year old lady next door had to go round picking them all up and putting spilled rubbish back into them. While the binmen watched what she was doing.
I advised her to complain to the Council, but I doubt anything will be done about it.
Disgusting behaviour. I would have been torn between helping the lady and deliberately not helping her so I could video it to either show the council (if they hadn't mandated this sort of behaviour in the first place) or leaking it somewhere to embarrass them (council).I advised her to complain to the Council, but I doubt anything will be done about it.
Watchman said:
Disgusting behaviour. I would have been torn between helping the lady and deliberately not helping her so I could video it to either show the council (if they hadn't mandated this sort of behaviour in the first place) or leaking it somewhere to embarrass them (council).
Yes, sadly I was at work. She is such a lovely neighbour though, exactly the kind of person who would do this. She regularly puts our bins out for us if we forget. It should be the other way round really!HD Adam said:
My Mother in Law still lives in her own bungalow. She's 93 now.
Now, not being exactly sprightly, we did a "thingy" with the council so that they will pick up her wheelie bins from near the door of her house as there's no way she could pull the bins to end of the driveway where they are supposed to be for emptying.
Forms filled and signed etc and all well and good except for that her neighbor (being neighborly) would occasionally walk down her drive on bin day and take her bin to the kerb.
Cue the bin not being emptied.
When I eventually got through to a human at the council offices, it was reported as being "in the wrong place" for collection.
We had to tell her neighbors not to move the bins.
That might explain why the old biddy got shirty with me for offering to move her bin to the road, and more shirty, when I dared to move it along the pavement 2 foot so I could actually get my car out. (It was positioned directly in line with the shared drive, so as my back wheels reach the road and my front wheels reach the pavement, I need to give it full lock which would entail my bumper bashing said bin) Now, not being exactly sprightly, we did a "thingy" with the council so that they will pick up her wheelie bins from near the door of her house as there's no way she could pull the bins to end of the driveway where they are supposed to be for emptying.
Forms filled and signed etc and all well and good except for that her neighbor (being neighborly) would occasionally walk down her drive on bin day and take her bin to the kerb.
Cue the bin not being emptied.
When I eventually got through to a human at the council offices, it was reported as being "in the wrong place" for collection.
We had to tell her neighbors not to move the bins.
I have posted previously about my job as a Binman.
To be honest i kept it secret on here for quite a while.
Not because i am embarrassed about doing the job, that isn't the case at all.
I just think sometimes it's easier to keep ones head under the parapet.
Doing the job i do doesn't define who i am, i would like to think of myself as a fairly amiable bloke and i don't think this has changed since i have been on the bins.
The reason i am posting now is just to add some balance, because whenever Binmen get mentioned on Pistonheads there is usually a flurry of posters telling stories about how bad, or lazy, or belligerent their Binmen are.
I can only speak as i find and i can't imagine any of my colleagues standing around whilst an old lady picks up litter, i'm not saying it didn't happen, but it would be nice to read some positive things once in a while.
On the subject of bags left next to the bins, the bin lorries are designed to pick up bins, this means the opening on the back of the lorries are a lot higher than they used to be.
Typically they are around head height, so any bags have to be thrown quite high to get them in.
Sometimes bags can be heavy, or have sharps in them,so it can be a health and safety issue.
The Council i work for has a policy of taking sidewaste and it is not unusual for some houses to have twenty or more bags next to the bin, generally the neighbours will see this and follow suite, this does add a huge burden onto our workloads.
To be honest i kept it secret on here for quite a while.
Not because i am embarrassed about doing the job, that isn't the case at all.
I just think sometimes it's easier to keep ones head under the parapet.
Doing the job i do doesn't define who i am, i would like to think of myself as a fairly amiable bloke and i don't think this has changed since i have been on the bins.
The reason i am posting now is just to add some balance, because whenever Binmen get mentioned on Pistonheads there is usually a flurry of posters telling stories about how bad, or lazy, or belligerent their Binmen are.
I can only speak as i find and i can't imagine any of my colleagues standing around whilst an old lady picks up litter, i'm not saying it didn't happen, but it would be nice to read some positive things once in a while.
On the subject of bags left next to the bins, the bin lorries are designed to pick up bins, this means the opening on the back of the lorries are a lot higher than they used to be.
Typically they are around head height, so any bags have to be thrown quite high to get them in.
Sometimes bags can be heavy, or have sharps in them,so it can be a health and safety issue.
The Council i work for has a policy of taking sidewaste and it is not unusual for some houses to have twenty or more bags next to the bin, generally the neighbours will see this and follow suite, this does add a huge burden onto our workloads.
Our local binmen are pretty decent, I normally bump into them when leaving the house on Friday as we're on a narrow cul-de-sac and if they're coming down the road, nobody can get out until they're done. I just park up somewhere and have a smoke, wishing them good morning as they trundle past. Never had an issue with my bins, even when they're a little overfilled.
Something that does annoy me, and I know it's nothing binmen can control, is the council's disapproval of food waste in black bins. It's biodegradable and I would rather not have a stinky little bin inside my house at all times - I'll just chuck everything into the big bin as it tends to live just outside the pantry door.
Something that does annoy me, and I know it's nothing binmen can control, is the council's disapproval of food waste in black bins. It's biodegradable and I would rather not have a stinky little bin inside my house at all times - I'll just chuck everything into the big bin as it tends to live just outside the pantry door.
sebhaque said:
Something that does annoy me, and I know it's nothing binmen can control, is the council's disapproval of food waste in black bins. It's biodegradable and I would rather not have a stinky little bin inside my house at all times - I'll just chuck everything into the big bin as it tends to live just outside the pantry door.
Several reasons for this:1. Food waste on it's own is a great feedstock for anaerobic digestion, which produces biogas for direct energy production (or in some cases the gas can even fuel the bin lorries). Best route for this is to collect it separately;
2. Food being mixed with black bag waste contaminates recyclable material, lowering the value of these items (paper and card being affected most) and making it economically unfeasible to sort the material (costs the tax payer more, if you want the Daily Mail version)- off it goes to landfill then, or to...
3. Thermal energy recovery (typically incineration, but gasification will be increasingly common in a few years). Food waste is very wet, lowering the net calorific value of the whole waste stream. The lower the net CV, the lower the efficiency of the plant.
Lesson over
Snozzwangler said:
But think about being out in the summer.
All about balance.
That would be much worse in those heavy clothes and gloves. You'd sweat away all your bloody water mass.All about balance.
My bin men are pretty good. And on our road they have a lot of s
t to deal with but they always seem to just do it well.gimmeshelter said:
I have posted previously about my job as a Binman.
To be honest i kept it secret on here for quite a while.
Not because i am embarrassed about doing the job, that isn't the case at all.
I just think sometimes it's easier to keep ones head under the parapet.
Doing the job i do doesn't define who i am, i would like to think of myself as a fairly amiable bloke and i don't think this has changed since i have been on the bins.
The reason i am posting now is just to add some balance, because whenever Binmen get mentioned on Pistonheads there is usually a flurry of posters telling stories about how bad, or lazy, or belligerent their Binmen are.
I can only speak as i find and i can't imagine any of my colleagues standing around whilst an old lady picks up litter, i'm not saying it didn't happen, but it would be nice to read some positive things once in a while.
On the subject of bags left next to the bins, the bin lorries are designed to pick up bins, this means the opening on the back of the lorries are a lot higher than they used to be.
Typically they are around head height, so any bags have to be thrown quite high to get them in.
Sometimes bags can be heavy, or have sharps in them,so it can be a health and safety issue.
The Council i work for has a policy of taking sidewaste and it is not unusual for some houses to have twenty or more bags next to the bin, generally the neighbours will see this and follow suite, this does add a huge burden onto our workloads.
As a binman can you answer my question? (fair enough if not it might be council specific) The other week there were some black bin bags left near our bins along with some grey bin bags, the binmen took all but one of the bags (a black one) and left a printed leaflet round the neck of the bag saying they can only take grey bags and they can't empty bins unless the lids are closed. (Ironic as most of the bins were so full the lids were open but they took them anyway!).To be honest i kept it secret on here for quite a while.
Not because i am embarrassed about doing the job, that isn't the case at all.
I just think sometimes it's easier to keep ones head under the parapet.
Doing the job i do doesn't define who i am, i would like to think of myself as a fairly amiable bloke and i don't think this has changed since i have been on the bins.
The reason i am posting now is just to add some balance, because whenever Binmen get mentioned on Pistonheads there is usually a flurry of posters telling stories about how bad, or lazy, or belligerent their Binmen are.
I can only speak as i find and i can't imagine any of my colleagues standing around whilst an old lady picks up litter, i'm not saying it didn't happen, but it would be nice to read some positive things once in a while.
On the subject of bags left next to the bins, the bin lorries are designed to pick up bins, this means the opening on the back of the lorries are a lot higher than they used to be.
Typically they are around head height, so any bags have to be thrown quite high to get them in.
Sometimes bags can be heavy, or have sharps in them,so it can be a health and safety issue.
The Council i work for has a policy of taking sidewaste and it is not unusual for some houses to have twenty or more bags next to the bin, generally the neighbours will see this and follow suite, this does add a huge burden onto our workloads.
Why will they only take grey bags? What difference does it make? I thought perhaps it was so they could try and sell you their own grey bags but there was nothing on the leaflet about where to buy them and grey bags can be bought almost anywhere for the same price as black bags?!
Our usual bin lorry has a high opening as you mention, at about head height, but they are perfectly happy to haul the bags in by hand, as long as they are the correct colour!
gimmeshelter said:
I have posted previously about my job as a Binman.
To be honest i kept it secret on here for quite a while.
Not because i am embarrassed about doing the job, that isn't the case at all.
I just think sometimes it's easier to keep ones head under the parapet.
Doing the job i do doesn't define who i am, i would like to think of myself as a fairly amiable bloke and i don't think this has changed since i have been on the bins.
The reason i am posting now is just to add some balance, because whenever Binmen get mentioned on Pistonheads there is usually a flurry of posters telling stories about how bad, or lazy, or belligerent their Binmen are.
I can only speak as i find and i can't imagine any of my colleagues standing around whilst an old lady picks up litter, i'm not saying it didn't happen, but it would be nice to read some positive things once in a while.
On the subject of bags left next to the bins, the bin lorries are designed to pick up bins, this means the opening on the back of the lorries are a lot higher than they used to be.
Typically they are around head height, so any bags have to be thrown quite high to get them in.
Sometimes bags can be heavy, or have sharps in them,so it can be a health and safety issue.
The Council i work for has a policy of taking sidewaste and it is not unusual for some houses to have twenty or more bags next to the bin, generally the neighbours will see this and follow suite, this does add a huge burden onto our workloads.
I'll back up gimmeshelter on this topic as I've been in and around the waste management industry for a while, including managing a Council waste collection crew of 65 in one of the busiest and most well-known council areas in Australia. The team I had were passionate about giving a good service as it (a) reflected on them because (b) many of them were residents of the Council's area. To be honest i kept it secret on here for quite a while.
Not because i am embarrassed about doing the job, that isn't the case at all.
I just think sometimes it's easier to keep ones head under the parapet.
Doing the job i do doesn't define who i am, i would like to think of myself as a fairly amiable bloke and i don't think this has changed since i have been on the bins.
The reason i am posting now is just to add some balance, because whenever Binmen get mentioned on Pistonheads there is usually a flurry of posters telling stories about how bad, or lazy, or belligerent their Binmen are.
I can only speak as i find and i can't imagine any of my colleagues standing around whilst an old lady picks up litter, i'm not saying it didn't happen, but it would be nice to read some positive things once in a while.
On the subject of bags left next to the bins, the bin lorries are designed to pick up bins, this means the opening on the back of the lorries are a lot higher than they used to be.
Typically they are around head height, so any bags have to be thrown quite high to get them in.
Sometimes bags can be heavy, or have sharps in them,so it can be a health and safety issue.
The Council i work for has a policy of taking sidewaste and it is not unusual for some houses to have twenty or more bags next to the bin, generally the neighbours will see this and follow suite, this does add a huge burden onto our workloads.
Yes, there were painful gits, and yes, they were a militant bunch, but generally they knew that the job had to be done well. That included being out in 40C summer days, and torrential rain. I did a stint with them on the trucks just to be sure of what happened, and can confirm its a physical job with little or no gratitude. The only thing they'd get Jobsworth about was collecting the right waste from the right bins.
As for 'sidewaste' if collecting additional waste eant they needed a third trip to the disposal centre, then they probably weren't going to collect. I had a team of others to help residents understand the system and why it existed. And how it all linked to the waste levy in their rates. Then they could take it up with their Councillor. Imagine if all the 30,000 residences I served had put out an extra bag every week, just because they could - that would be around an additional 150-200 tonnes per week, at around $150/tonne, call it an extra $25,000 per week, say $1.3M per year. How should that be paid for?
If anyone can solve the problem of getting waste from its point of generation to is point of final disposal/use, without using trucks, you'll be very rich!
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