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kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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PomBstard said:
As for 'sidewaste' if collecting additional waste eant they needed a third trip to the disposal centre, then they probably weren't going to collect. I had a team of others to help residents understand the system and why it existed. And how it all linked to the waste levy in their rates. Then they could take it up with their Councillor. Imagine if all the 30,000 residences I served had put out an extra bag every week, just because they could - that would be around an additional 150-200 tonnes per week, at around $150/tonne, call it an extra $25,000 per week, say $1.3M per year. How should that be paid for?
Maybe the beancounters shouldn't have underestimated that amount of waste in the first place, so that the "extra" waste problem didn't arise?

HTP99

22,559 posts

140 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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To be fair, our bin men are generally OK with taking extra bags of waste that are placed next to the big plastic bins, we don't have extra bags of waste but there are the regulars who do; it is amazing how much waste some people do generate though.

A few years ago, one thing that really pissed me off though was around Christmas time I had few cardboard boxes that wouldn't go into the small green bin that we were issued at the time; we now have a much larger green wheelie bin, so I flattened them all down and made sure they were neatly placed next to the green recycle bin.

Got back from work; green bin had been emptied as had the normal waste bin but the cardboard was still there, I gave the Council a ring to find out why it hadn't been taken, to be told that as they weren't in the recycle bin that is why they hadn't been taken, tried to argue my case about the issued bins being too small but the woman was having none of it!!

PomBstard

6,779 posts

242 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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kev1974 said:
PomBstard said:
As for 'sidewaste' if collecting additional waste eant they needed a third trip to the disposal centre, then they probably weren't going to collect. I had a team of others to help residents understand the system and why it existed. And how it all linked to the waste levy in their rates. Then they could take it up with their Councillor. Imagine if all the 30,000 residences I served had put out an extra bag every week, just because they could - that would be around an additional 150-200 tonnes per week, at around $150/tonne, call it an extra $25,000 per week, say $1.3M per year. How should that be paid for?
Maybe the beancounters shouldn't have underestimated that amount of waste in the first place, so that the "extra" waste problem didn't arise?
Fair enough, but its still an extra $1.3M to pay. In any case, the business case to get the system in place included an audit of the Council's waste to identify how much was recyclable, which mean if collected separately we could get paid for it rather than pay $150/t. So quite a bit of work went into it - including actually sifting through tonnes of collected crap. To be fair, I reckon less than 2% of the residences had a problem with the new system, and with help that dropped considerably. Not bad for an area that includes a beach suburb that doubles its population in the summer months.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Obviously off topic of op but I'm a family of four. One wheelie bin is more than adequate. We do also have a further three, for paper, glass/plastic and one for green waste

Which ive discovered if you jump up and down in it, you can get far more in than 8 giant green waste bags.


I'd suggest if yr overfilling the one normal bin, you're buying too much crap and yr too lazy to go to the tip.

gimmeshelter

100 posts

180 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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Putting the bags into the bin instead of throwing them on would take to long, presuming you get four bags in a bin and there are twenty bags there, then that is five times the bin would have to be put on the Lorry. Plus the first lift before you start putting bags in.

This would slow us down to much, so it gets thrown on, but that doesn't make it right.

I have no idea why a council won't take certain colour bags or pick up flattened boxes, that just seems like pettyness to me.

You do get to meet some lovely people on the rounds.
One little old lady puts three Werthers Originals on the bin every week, that used to make me smile.
Children are great and we always remember where they live and give them a wave.

This week i am doing other duties so i havn't been out on a round, although i am not as tired as usual, i am missing it.
I must be institutionalized...

rohrl

8,738 posts

145 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Photographic evidence of jobsworthiness.


silverfoxcc

7,690 posts

145 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Isn't there another version of this with the white line going over some roadkill?

Matt_N

8,903 posts

202 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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HTP99 said:
To be fair, our bin men are generally OK with taking extra bags of waste that are placed next to the big plastic bins, we don't have extra bags of waste but there are the regulars who do; it is amazing how much waste some people do generate though.

A few years ago, one thing that really pissed me off though was around Christmas time I had few cardboard boxes that wouldn't go into the small green bin that we were issued at the time; we now have a much larger green wheelie bin, so I flattened them all down and made sure they were neatly placed next to the green recycle bin.

Got back from work; green bin had been emptied as had the normal waste bin but the cardboard was still there, I gave the Council a ring to find out why it hadn't been taken, to be told that as they weren't in the recycle bin that is why they hadn't been taken, tried to argue my case about the issued bins being too small but the woman was having none of it!!
That's a bit crap.

Here they will take cardboard not in a bin aslong as its all placed in the largest cardboard box.

They did stop collecting our green wheelie (garden waste etc) bins though unless we paid £36 a year for it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Matt_N said:
They did stop collecting our green wheelie (garden waste etc) bins though unless we paid £36 a year for it.
I suppose it's unfair for people who live in apartments etc to subsidise your green waste.

I think a few councils charge now as i suppose it's a new (cost neutral?) revenue stream Where the user is charged for a service provided, unlike schooling etc
I suppose if you dump recyclables in the 'waste' bin that is fineable to prevent it.

I'm expecting our council to start charging for green waste one day but I'd love a proper breakdown of what i actually get for just shy of the 2K a year council tax i pay mad


Moonhawk

Original Poster:

10,730 posts

219 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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speedyguy said:
I suppose it's unfair for people who live in apartments etc to subsidise your green waste.
By that same argument - should single people or people without kids etc get a rebate on their brown/black/recyclable bins?

Me and my wife pay the same council tax as the couple with three kids across the way. They generate loads more rubbish than we do as evidenced by their larger bins and often multiple bags of additional rubbish.

Unfair also?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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silverfoxcc said:
Isn't there another version of this with the white line going over some roadkill?
Loads rofl

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=white+lines+over...


R1 Indy

4,382 posts

183 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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STW2010 said:
That defies common sense. How stupid can some people (bin men) be?!?
Very.

I have two bins that go out on the same day, every fortnight.

One is a standard black council bin. And collected by the council wagons.

The other is bright blue, and has "Smiths waste management" written over it. It is commercial waste and "supposed" to be collected by smiths waste management bizarrely.


However, every now and again it appears the council manage to empty both bins, then stick a warning notice on the Blue one, as it's not the correct bin!!

I assume smiths come along later looking a bit confused why someone would put a completely empty bin out laugh

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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Moonhawk said:
Me and my wife pay the same council tax as the couple with three kids across the way. They generate loads more rubbish than we do as evidenced by their larger bins and often multiple bags of additional rubbish.

Unfair also?
That's why i mentioned schools etc, you fall into the same band, "too difficult to deal with" and easier to 'do over'

Maybe we need a 'number of people per house charge' I'm sure they tried it in the 80's but it didn't go down well and caused a few riots smile

We have 4 in our house, on average we have less than 2 carrier bags of non recyclable waste a fortnight and in another couple of months when the youngest goes to high school we won't get any refunds even through we scrape by to pay school fees. I would like their 'share' of 'education funding' to go to the school they attend or get a tax refund, i don't see either happening though smile



Pit Pony

8,587 posts

121 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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kev1974 said:
PomBstard said:
As for 'sidewaste' if collecting additional waste eant they needed a third trip to the disposal centre, then they probably weren't going to collect. I had a team of others to help residents understand the system and why it existed. And how it all linked to the waste levy in their rates. Then they could take it up with their Councillor. Imagine if all the 30,000 residences I served had put out an extra bag every week, just because they could - that would be around an additional 150-200 tonnes per week, at around $150/tonne, call it an extra $25,000 per week, say $1.3M per year. How should that be paid for?
Maybe the beancounters shouldn't have underestimated that amount of waste in the first place, so that the "extra" waste problem didn't arise?
The thing is, that for every extra bag next to a wheelie bin that's full, there's a wheelie bin that belongs to some old dear that has next to feck all in it. Hence why the 85 year old bloke across the road is happy to let the family living next door to put their extra in his bin.

Burwood

18,709 posts

246 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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Axionknight said:
silverfoxcc said:
Isn't there another version of this with the white line going over some roadkill?
Loads rofl

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=white+lines+over...
That is funny and very disturbing lol

Turkish91

1,087 posts

202 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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A few years ago a friend of mine got ID'd to buy superglue in Focus Do It All... He was 31 at the time and bald as a coot!

Chris Type R

8,031 posts

249 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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Moonhawk said:
We go to the Broadway Cinema in Letchworth quite a lot (an independent cinema - funded from the Letchworth heritage fund) - Its a great cinema with a fantastic screen, £5 a ticket for mid week showings (even at that price you can still get 2 for 1 on orange Wednesdays) ........and they have a bar biggrin

Only reason we didn't go there last night was because they only have 3 screens and had stopped showing this particular movie.
Where is the bar ? Can't say I've ever noticed it frown

Negative Creep

24,983 posts

227 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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speedyguy said:
Moonhawk said:
Me and my wife pay the same council tax as the couple with three kids across the way. They generate loads more rubbish than we do as evidenced by their larger bins and often multiple bags of additional rubbish.

Unfair also?
That's why i mentioned schools etc, you fall into the same band, "too difficult to deal with" and easier to 'do over'

Maybe we need a 'number of people per house charge' I'm sure they tried it in the 80's but it didn't go down well and caused a few riots smile

We have 4 in our house, on average we have less than 2 carrier bags of non recyclable waste a fortnight and in another couple of months when the youngest goes to high school we won't get any refunds even through we scrape by to pay school fees. I would like their 'share' of 'education funding' to go to the school they attend or get a tax refund, i don't see either happening though smile
Don't get me started on the fact I live by myself with no kids but only get a 25% discount

Biggriff

2,312 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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I haven't ever been age checked until I got to nearly 50 when the woman behind the booze counter decided to ask me for my ID. As I didn't have any I said how about we leave it and I will speak to your Manager.

I did indeed speak to her manager who confirmed what I thought that the staff had been asked to tighten up their checks but to use their common sense. The Manager confessed that was a mistake in hindsight. She actually served me whilst the original member of staff stood next to her watching and looking sheepish.

I know it was naughty but I said I clearly wasn't a child and when I left I turned round and blew her a raspberry. God did she look p@@@ed. my wife gave me a right telling off whilst laughing.

Adenauer

18,580 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Biggriff said:
I know it was naughty but I said I clearly wasn't a child and when I left I turned round and blew her a raspberry. God did she look p@@@ed. my wife gave me a right telling off whilst laughing.
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