Using percentages incorrectly

Using percentages incorrectly

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xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Tony2or4 said:
Some Gump said:
Sorry, profit has always, and should always be expressed as profit margin, not product mark up.
What is the formula/definition of profit margin? (I'm not a businessman typesmile.)
Net profit / revenue.

Net profit / cost price is the profit percentage.

Some Gump

12,705 posts

187 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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((Sales price - cost price)/sales price)*100.

Most people do it less tax, so the vat effect disappears.

This gives the margin contribution of that sale. Of course, your cost price can be viewed in many ways, but you could write a book about that part - the most suitable way to look at cost price changes massively depending on the nature of the business.

Tony2or4

1,283 posts

166 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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Tony2or4 said:
Some Gump said:
Sorry, profit has always, and should always be expressed as profit margin, not product mark up.
What is the formula/definition of profit margin? (I'm not a businessman typesmile.)
Some Gump said:
((Sales price - cost price)/sales price)*100.
(Gulp) That means that TwigtheWonderkid was right all along, and I was wrong to query it.

Twig - my apologies for suggesting you were wrong.

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TwigtheWonderkid

43,408 posts

151 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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Tony2or4 said:
(Gulp) That means that TwigtheWonderkid was right all along, and I was wrong to query it.

Twig - my apologies for suggesting you were wrong.

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getmecoat
I was 110% sure I had it right.

Tony2or4

1,283 posts

166 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Tony2or4 said:
(Gulp) That means that TwigtheWonderkid was right all along, and I was wrong to query it.

Twig - my apologies for suggesting you were wrong.

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getmecoat
I was 110% sure I had it right.
Just shows that I know sod all about business.biggrin

cobra kid

4,951 posts

241 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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"I bought it for £1, sold it for £2. I made 100% profit"....gggggrrrrrrrrrr

TheInternet

4,724 posts

164 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Burnham

3,668 posts

260 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Always give 100%.

Unless you are donating blood.

amancalledrob

1,248 posts

135 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Some Gump said:
If you're trying to explain this by saying "it hasn't, it's only gone up 15%", then it no wonder you struggle smile
You're quite right - if that's all I was doing, no one would be surprised to see me struggle

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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cobra kid said:
"I bought it for £1, sold it for £2. I made 100% profit"....gggggrrrrrrrrrr
£1 = 100 pennies = 100%

What's wrong with that?

That apart I agree 110% with 100% of what everyone else has said on this thread.

pingu393

7,824 posts

206 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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TheInternet said:
No wonder it's unavailable. With a 11100% rating, even I'm tempted to buy one smile.

HowMuchLonger

3,004 posts

194 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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MagicMike said:
One of my pet hates is the inaccurate use of percentages by people, examples being:

1) When making a decision the term " I'm x% sure that I will or will not"

2) Or just as bad "I'm 105% sure or unsure"

How the censored have they calculated it to that exact percentage?
There is actually a field of study on "subjective probability", which is the estimate based on an expert opinion.

shoehorn

686 posts

144 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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FredClogs said:
£1 = 100 pennies = 100%

What's wrong with that?
I agree,if you double your money then you are getting 100% of your original amount again.
You have 100% more.
regardless of the fact that this is 50% of the total its still 100% more than you had in the first place.


SidJames

1,399 posts

234 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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I train managers how to interpret performance data, and one example I start off with is :

"If you were on £75 a day, what % pay rise would you want to be on £100 a day"

I've lost count of those that only want to be on £93.75 a day.


sbird

325 posts

179 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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For a long time it annoyed me when I heard this sort of twaddle on the news: "Interest rates have gone up 1%."

Except they haven't. They've gone up 1 percentage point. Going from 4% to 5% is a 25% increase.


otolith

56,214 posts

205 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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See also the confusion between "it's 80% tax" and "it's taxed at 400%" - either of which is acceptable so long as people are talking about the same thing.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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sbird said:
For a long time it annoyed me when I heard this sort of twaddle on the news: "Interest rates have gone up 1%."

Except they haven't. They've gone up 1 percentage point. Going from 4% to 5% is a 25% increase.
Seeing as a rate is expressed in percent it's not wrong.

Or as Nixon used in a reelection speech, "the rate at which inflation is increasing, has decreased."

Al U

2,313 posts

132 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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This one gets used a lot by people at my work. "It's 99.9% done". Yet that last 0.01% takes way longer than 0.01% of the total time taken to do the job.

spud989

2,753 posts

181 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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SidJames said:
I train managers how to interpret performance data, and one example I start off with is :

"If you were on £75 a day, what % pay rise would you want to be on £100 a day"

I've lost count of those that only want to be on £93.75 a day.
If people in management positions need training on how to work out things like that then God help their organisations and employees!

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Al U said:
This one gets used a lot by people at my work. "It's 99.9% done". Yet that last 0.01% takes way longer than 0.01% of the total time taken to do the job.
Quite normal in software development to hear people say 80% of the work takes 20% of the time. Features and time have a non-linear relationship.