Conspiracy Theories for Cynics

[anonymous-user]

Vitorio said:

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If i end up getting fired over this, ill find you! (and thank you probably)

Try another!

http://illuminatiwatcher.com/katy-perry-illuminati...

[jshell]

FredClogs said:

My favourite conspiracy theory may have been mentioned before (I haven't read the whole thread) and it concerns the CIAs involvement in the trafficking and sale of cocaine and other drugs on the street of America in the 80s, linked to the funding of the Contra rebels

You can start with the testament of Rick Ross (the real Rick Ross not the rapper)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Freeway%22_Rick_Ro...

But the plot thickens quite quickly, some people suggesting that the war on drugs is some sort of internal American government dispute between groups of state (and foreign state) employees who run the business and those that want to stop it.

It's very interesting and there seems to be a lot of admission that the CIA at least "helped" drug trafficking not just from South America but also in SE Asia as a matter of policy for many many years...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_dr...

I know that I'm replying to an old post, but since Fred's, I've read Dark Alliance by Gary Webb. Referencing flight plans, court documents and DEA documents, I'm in no doubt the DEA facilitated the drug trade in the US to finance their dodgy dealings and anti-democratic operations in South America! His well-documented downfall has been made into a film too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/05/movies/kill-the...

[Vocal Minority]

northwest monkey said:

There's a book about it called Grey Wolf. Quite an interesting (if very speculative) read.

I've just read a book about the Titanic conspiracy theory which made me laugh in places. The long and short was that the Titanic's sister ship (Olympic) was damaged in a collision with a Navy ship. The inquest decided it was a 50/50 accident so no blame & no claim. The Olympic was taken back to Belfast & in the biggest ringing / cut & shut job ever, the "plates" were swapped between the Olympic and the Titanic. The idea was that the Titanic (really the Olympic) was to set off on its maiden voyage then crash into an iceberg. Another ship was then supposed to come & rescue everyone, the hooky ship sinks & Harland & Wolff claim on the insurance. This was all done without any of the thousands of workers in Belfast either noticing or ever mentioning it.

Additionally - if the ship wasn't worth repairing and putting back into service out of their own pocket, it must have been proper bksed - they wouldn't completely write off a potential income generating asset unless the damage was properly significant.

Which begs the question........why did none of the passengers, crew or people standing on the quayside think to ask 'Hey! Why does this brand new cruise ship off on its maiden voyage look like its already been in a not insignificant fender bender?'

Therefore, you need to make it look cosmetically right and sound enough to make the Mid-Atlantic, as well as changing its identity.

This sounds like an awful lot of effort when the alternative is 'fix the Olympic and put it back into service'


Having ploughed through this thread I have to say it has proved one thing - Schezerkeks has highlighted it

People who believe conspiracy theories want there to be a conspiracy - and when all you need to do to dismiss evidence and keep your gravy train going is to say

- You're part of it
-They've got to you, man
or
-That's what they want the sheep to think

They will never climb down. They want to believe its all totally hooky - and evidence gets in the way of that so is dismissed.

[Hainey]

The closest explanation as to why no one noticed they were sailing on a used and not showroom fresh ship I've heard is that actually, some of them did notice. The ships stokers in particular. Those guys could easily see that the engines and boilers weren't new, indeed far from it.

Hence why so many of them signed off in Southampton before she made the crossing despite there being a real shortage of work. They knew something was afoot and wanted off. The ship actually had problems getting enough engine room crew for the journey.

Does it mean i belive that its really the Olympic at the bottom of the Atlantic? Nope, because there is a fatal flaw in the theory. Namely I've never met a Belfast man yet that didn't love to spin a tale so no way they could have kept quite about swopping the vin tags over. Not a hope in hell of it.

[Dr Jekyll]

Hainey said:

The closest explanation as to why no one noticed they were sailing on a used and not showroom fresh ship I've heard is that actually, some of them did notice. The ships stokers in particular. Those guys could easily see that the engines and boilers weren't new, indeed far from it.

Hence why so many of them signed off in Southampton before she made the crossing despite there being a real shortage of work. They knew something was afoot and wanted off. The ship actually had problems getting enough engine room crew for the journey.

What was afoot was that the coal stores were on fire.

Mind you, there is an interesting story about one of the few stokers from the Belfast-Southampton run who signed on for New York. He wasn't listed among the survivors and a memorial service was held, then he turned up explaining his documents had been stolen and he had been hiding in Wales for a few weeks. The best guess was that he sold his ID papers to someone who needed to get out of the country quickly.

[Hainey]

Dr Jekyll said:

Hainey said:

The closest explanation as to why no one noticed they were sailing on a used and not showroom fresh ship I've heard is that actually, some of them did notice. The ships stokers in particular. Those guys could easily see that the engines and boilers weren't new, indeed far from it.

Hence why so many of them signed off in Southampton before she made the crossing despite there being a real shortage of work. They knew something was afoot and wanted off. The ship actually had problems getting enough engine room crew for the journey.

What was afoot was that the coal stores were on fire.

Mind you, there is an interesting story about one of the few stokers from the Belfast-Southampton run who signed on for New York. He wasn't listed among the survivors and a memorial service was held, then he turned up explaining his documents had been stolen and he had been hiding in Wales for a few weeks. The best guess was that he sold his ID papers to someone who needed to get out of the country quickly.

Yeah that sounds like your average stoker

If the coal stores were on fire the bulkheads must have been as weak as paper after a few days. No wonder it snapped like a breadstick.

[Leroy902]

Anyone in doubt about 'conspiracies', and how sneaky western governments are/have been, I highly recommend you read a book called...

'confessions of an economical hitman'.

[MG CHRIS]

24lemons said:

Just to clarify, I dont claim to believe in this or any other conspiracy theory. I do occasionally find them interesting either because of the coincidences involved or the sheer wild imagination that some people have.

I saw this and some of the images are quite striking http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/cartoons-and-o...

Also I had to post the Denver Airport conspiracy. No matter what the reason is behind the choice of decor, it is an interesting choice for an airport! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/nor...

The Denver airport one is extremely interesting there was no apparent need for the airport and nobody actually know who built it in the first place.

[red_slr]

MG CHRIS said:

The Denver airport one is extremely interesting there was no apparent need for the airport and nobody actually know who built it in the first place.

Ignoring the usual stuff about DIA the place is 100% going to be used by military etal should there be a major SHTF situation IMHO. You only have to look at the area its in and what known govt sites are within 100 miles of the place. The unknown ones... well that's another story but I suspect we are looking at a full relocation site long term for all govt. Very unlikely to ever get used for this purpose of course!

[anonymous-user]

How about Michelle Obama being a transsexual?

http://www.mydailyinformer.com/★michelle-oba...

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/tag/michael-lavau...

[Hainey]

red_slr said:

MG CHRIS said:

The Denver airport one is extremely interesting there was no apparent need for the airport and nobody actually know who built it in the first place.

Ignoring the usual stuff about DIA the place is 100% going to be used by military etal should there be a major SHTF situation IMHO. You only have to look at the area its in and what known govt sites are within 100 miles of the place. The unknown ones... well that's another story but I suspect we are looking at a full relocation site long term for all govt. Very unlikely to ever get used for this purpose of course!

There are a lot of large tunnels in the area as well that are used by the military, thought to actually connect bases but who can say for sure? That would be impossible to prove but not unrealistic.

The only reason I know is because it was a UK company that built the tunneling machines for the same back in the 80's.

[CanAm]

northwest monkey said:

There's a book about it called Grey Wolf. Quite an interesting (if very speculative) read.

I've just read a book about the Titanic conspiracy theory which made me laugh in places. The long and short was that the Titanic's sister ship (Olympic) was damaged in a collision with a Navy ship. The inquest decided it was a 50/50 accident so no blame & no claim. The Olympic was taken back to Belfast & in the biggest ringing / cut & shut job ever, the "plates" were swapped between the Olympic and the Titanic. The idea was that the Titanic (really the Olympic) was to set off on its maiden voyage then crash into an iceberg. Another ship was then supposed to come & rescue everyone, the hooky ship sinks & Harland & Wolff claim on the insurance. This was all done without any of the thousands of workers in Belfast either noticing or ever mentioning it.

What absolute twaddle. Insurers would have paid out regardless.

[Vocal Minority]

That was going to be my other question....but I thought I should do more reading before I asked it....it didn't sounds right

[CanAm]

Vocal Minority said:

That was going to be my other question....but I thought I should do more reading before I asked it....it didn't sounds right

On the other hand they might have been just a little reluctant to pay out on a second, fraudulent, claim!

[Dan_1981]

Leroy902 said:

Anyone in doubt about 'conspiracies', and how sneaky western governments are/have been, I highly recommend you read a book called...

'confessions of an economical hitman'.

Economic Hitman.

I've got a copy on my bookshelf.

The author appears to be a crazed conspiracy theorist who happened to have a decent job.

Understand several of his claims have been debunked.

[anonymous-user]

Back to the classics: UFOs

John Lenard Wilson

http://www.rense.com/general96/spacevehiclesWalson...

http://www.rense.com/general96/spacevehic2.html

http://www.rense.com/general96/spacevehic3.html

Including government sending apaches and chinooks and more to stop him taking and publishing such photos & videos

[Dr Jekyll]

http://crispian-jago.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/the-co...

[Front bottom]

A twist in the Diana saga.

I can't say it surprises me if true.


http://yournewswire.com/mi5-agent-killed-princess-...

[Laurel Green]

Front bottom said:

A twist in the Diana saga.

I can't say it surprises me if true.


http://yournewswire.com/mi5-agent-killed-princess-...

Error 503 Backend fetch failed.

[Front bottom]

Laurel Green said:

Front bottom said:

A twist in the Diana saga.

I can't say it surprises me if true.


http://yournewswire.com/mi5-agent-killed-princess-...

Error 503 Backend fetch failed. :scrathchin:

It's kind of trending of FACEBOOK at the moment, with different 'news' sites being linked to. Some load, some don't.

Not the best written article either, but still interesting.