Show us your animated GIFs... [Volume 4]

Show us your animated GIFs... [Volume 4]

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tobinen

9,239 posts

146 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Otter Smacker

6,524 posts

195 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Edited by Otter Smacker on Tuesday 25th August 21:11

cathalferris

108 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th August 2015
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Gorf said:
Moonhawk said:
As for the moon/earth size. It looks about right to me. The moon is around 27% the size of the earth - and looking at the animation, it looks like the disc of moon would fit just over three times across the face of the earth.
That's not how it works. Their apparent relative size all depends on the field of view and distance from the moon. For example, there is a point somewhere nearer to the Moon (than the probe's position when it took those shots) that the Moon would have a similar apparent size to the Earth and occlude it from view altogether. There's no easy way to get an accurate single image that shows their relative size because the Earth will always be about a quarter of a million miles further from the camera. You'd have to position the camera perpendicular to the orbital radius at its mid point and have a wide enough field of view to cover the 225,000 to 248,000 miles between them into the picture.
Though, Moonhawk isn't too far off the mark. Technically Gorf is correct, but from far enough away (and space is a very big place) the difference in apparent size becomes small compared to the difference in real size.
My linked .gif was obtained from the EPIC camera aboard the Deep Space Climate Observatory, which is stationed close to the L1 Earth-Sun Lagrange point, which is ~1 million miles away from the Earth's sunlit side, and the Moon is about 240,000 miles (variable) from the Earth. My .gif shows the Moon as about 0.34x the width of the Earth, compared to 0.27x in reality. Not too much difference.
The .gif is represented as true-colour, as it would look to our eyes. Yes, you wouldn't be seeing the surrounding stars that easily when looking at a correctly exposed Full Earth biggrin

DickyC

49,822 posts

199 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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cathalferris said:
Though, Moonhawk isn't too far off the mark. Technically Gorf is correct, but from far enough away (and space is a very big place) the difference in apparent size becomes small compared to the difference in real size.
So big that representations of warp drive have always bothered me. It seems to me that it wouldn't matter how fast you were going, stars passed at warp speed would appear fewer and further between than the popular image.



As you were.

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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DickyC said:
So big that representations of warp drive have always bothered me. It seems to me that it wouldn't matter how fast you were going, stars passed at warp speed would appear fewer and further between than the popular image.



As you were.
That's not the original photograph. It's been photoshopped to add drama.

qube_TA

8,402 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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marshalla said:
qube_TA said:
why does it matter, who's on a mobile with capped data?
FTFY.
capped so low it would matter?

Maybe if you're on roaming data plan and on holiday in the US it would be an issue, but then you'd not be looking at a gif thread.
(or at least wouldn't be clicking the .gifv links)




shakotan

10,709 posts

197 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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qube_TA said:
marshalla said:
qube_TA said:
why does it matter, who's on a mobile with capped data?
FTFY.
capped so low it would matter?

Maybe if you're on roaming data plan and on holiday in the US it would be an issue, but then you'd not be looking at a gif thread.
(or at least wouldn't be clicking the .gifv links)
500mB and 1GB are perfectly 'standard' data caps on tariffs, so you can appreciate it doesn't take make 50mB GIFs to munch through that.

qube_TA

8,402 posts

246 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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shakotan said:
qube_TA said:
marshalla said:
qube_TA said:
why does it matter, who's on a mobile with capped data?
FTFY.
capped so low it would matter?

Maybe if you're on roaming data plan and on holiday in the US it would be an issue, but then you'd not be looking at a gif thread.
(or at least wouldn't be clicking the .gifv links)
500mB and 1GB are perfectly 'standard' data caps on tariffs, so you can appreciate it doesn't take make 50mB GIFs to munch through that.
Big M not small m

But perhaps but if that was an issue why would you be clicking on links that would chew up your mobile data limits?

Although that reminds me of my wife who decided to install iOS8 on her phone when on holiday using 3G. Would have been cheaper to have bought a new phone!



LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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It's a simple courtesy to consider others less blessed. Link to larger gifs. 😊

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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tobinen said:
A Nightfury fish! biggrin

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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cathalferris said:
Gorf said:
Moonhawk said:
As for the moon/earth size. It looks about right to me. The moon is around 27% the size of the earth - and looking at the animation, it looks like the disc of moon would fit just over three times across the face of the earth.
That's not how it works. Their apparent relative size all depends on the field of view and distance from the moon. For example, there is a point somewhere nearer to the Moon (than the probe's position when it took those shots) that the Moon would have a similar apparent size to the Earth and occlude it from view altogether. There's no easy way to get an accurate single image that shows their relative size because the Earth will always be about a quarter of a million miles further from the camera. You'd have to position the camera perpendicular to the orbital radius at its mid point and have a wide enough field of view to cover the 225,000 to 248,000 miles between them into the picture.
Though, Moonhawk isn't too far off the mark. Technically Gorf is correct, but from far enough away (and space is a very big place) the difference in apparent size becomes small compared to the difference in real size.
My linked .gif was obtained from the EPIC camera aboard the Deep Space Climate Observatory, which is stationed close to the L1 Earth-Sun Lagrange point, which is ~1 million miles away from the Earth's sunlit side, and the Moon is about 240,000 miles (variable) from the Earth. My .gif shows the Moon as about 0.34x the width of the Earth, compared to 0.27x in reality. Not too much difference.
The .gif is represented as true-colour, as it would look to our eyes. Yes, you wouldn't be seeing the surrounding stars that easily when looking at a correctly exposed Full Earth biggrin
I was of course talking in general terms. I know how it works in practice and i'm well versed in the concepts of perspective, relative angular diameter etc.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Les talky talky, more giffy giffy.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Moonhawk

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220 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Otter Smacker

6,524 posts

195 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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davhill

5,263 posts

185 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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tobinen said:
Night fury fish? I thought it was just a minnow that can't read the Scoville scale.


Edited by davhill on Thursday 27th August 19:13

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
There are easier ways to fix a hernia....

Gorf

491 posts

185 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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tobinen said:

loughran

2,755 posts

137 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Thursday 27th August 2015
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loughran said:
Tragic. A lovely old 911 and a lovely old (innocent) Merc (assuming it was tagged - hard to say but it looks like it). frown

Keep it on the track, guys. frown