Match.com (Volume 6)

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NRS

22,154 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Studio117 said:
To be honest it is almost like that with some of them! However the thing seems to be either get together with your childhood sweetheart, have a kid at 19, or go to university and stay somewhere else until you meet someone and then take them back with you and have a family. The result is there isn't much available if you're not interested in people who have kids already.

stroberaver

196 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Guys (and perhaps girls), I need some help - I've fked up pretty badly with someone I really like. I think I've blindly walked into the friendzone and I need to get out asap - if that's even possible.

I don't usually talk about personal stuff on forums but I'm worried about it this time, and I'm crap at dating stuff anyway.

Having been single for some time, I joined Tinder at the start of the year. Had a few decent matches and went on a couple of dates that led to nothing - and then I matched with someone I already knew of at the photographic society I go to. We got chatting, swapped numbers, and next time we saw each other at the club we stayed on chatting and got on great. She was visibly pleased and excited that I liked her, all the typical signs and body language. She immediately got me to come along on a group photography outing she was a bit nervous about (she's the shy type, but adorably sweet with it, I'm pretty shy and quiet with girls too so it suited me fine); we had a couple of trips out like that and we'd always spend time together afterwards over a meal etc. There was masses of texting and messaging between us, but it was interspersed with actual real contact - a couple of trips to the cinema, meals out, etc. - so it didn't feel as though anything was wrong.

She did admit at one point that she was so busy with work and stuff that she didn't know whether she wanted a relationship at the moment, and she didn't want to make things awkward at the club, but she was happy to take it slow and see what happened. That sounded bad to me, but it was pretty early on and we continued to have plenty flirty contact and spend some time with her. We're both pretty busy, her more than me with working some crazy long hours and having to do plenty work-related academic study in her own time, but we saw each other occasionally and texted loads, and we both gradually stopped looking at Tinder. Things reached their peak in May when we had a couple of great days out, realised I had a real emotional fondness for her, and we went out for my birthday (which she remembered, even though I'd only mentioned the date once).

And then something changed. While I was away for a weekend (with family), she just went silent for several days after I paid her a compliment. Not wanting to bombard her and send more messages than I received, I went quiet too and ever since then she seems to have been more distant, and suddenly so busy that there's no chance of seeing her. And I haven't seen her for a month now. I don't think she's met someone else as she's been open with everything she has planned and has on (lots of work, studying, and all her free time recently is already taken with planned activities with her girlfriends). There's been bursts of messaging which have sometimes given me hope and sometimes also hinted that she thinks we're just friends, although I haven't yet had the specific and dreaded "I only think of you as a friend" speech. But any time I pay her a compliment, or say anything flirty or cheeky, it now just gets ignored, as if I'd never said it.

It suddenly began to dawn on me what I'd done, and if you go and google "avoid friend zone texting" I've unwittingly done pretty much everything I shouldn't have. I could give a bloody masterclass in what not to do, based on this. I've been her pen pal, been too slow to clearly give her signs that I expected to progress things, been too passive, and now I've become a friend rather than potential romantic partner.

I need to find a way out (or at least try my damned hardest) cos I really like her. Of the women I've chatted to and gone on dates with through Tinder, none have made me feel the same way as her, as relaxed and happy and with so much in common. Any ideas?

I know I need to cut the texting chats and just focus on getting her to meet up with me again. She has a work-related study deadline on Monday that she's going to be preoccupied with as well as having to work crazy long hours all weekend, and there's also a fair on in town next week which makes a great photographic evening out, so I guess I just need to ignore whatever she messages me about, and ask her if she'll go with me one evening next week.

And when she says she hasn't got time, then what? I don't feel prepared to give up on her, I like her too much to do that. frown

Edited by stroberaver on Wednesday 17th June 13:00

ChunkyloverSV

1,333 posts

192 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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stroberaver said:
Guys (and perhaps girls), I need some help - I've fked up pretty badly with someone I really like. I think I've blindly walked into the friendzone and I need to get out asap - if that's even possible.

I don't usually talk about personal stuff on forums but I'm worried about it this time, and I'm crap at dating stuff anyway.

Having been single for some time, I joined Tinder at the start of the year. Had a few decent matches and went on a couple of dates that led to nothing - and then I matched with someone I already knew of at the photographic society I go to. We got chatting, swapped numbers, and next time we saw each other at the club we stayed on chatting and got on great. She was visibly pleased and excited that I liked her, all the typical signs and body language. She immediately got me to come along on a group photography outing she was a bit nervous about (she's the shy type, but adorably sweet with it, I'm pretty shy and quiet with girls too so it suited me fine); we had a couple of trips out like that and we'd always spend time together afterwards over a meal etc. There was masses of texting and messaging between us, but it was interspersed with actual real contact - a couple of trips to the cinema, meals out, etc. - so it didn't feel as though anything was wrong.

She did admit at one point that she was so busy with work and stuff that she didn't know whether she wanted a relationship at the moment, and she didn't want to make things awkward at the club, but she was happy to take it slow and see what happened. That sounded bad to me, but it was pretty early on and we continued to have plenty flirty contact and spend some time with her. We're both pretty busy, her more than me with working some crazy long hours and having to do plenty work-related academic study in her own time, but we saw each other occasionally and texted loads, and we both gradually stopped looking at Tinder. Things reached their peak in May when we had a couple of great days out, realised I had a real emotional fondness for her, and we went out for my birthday (which she remembered, even though I'd only mentioned the date once).

And then something changed. While I was away for a weekend (with family), she just went silent for several days after I paid her a compliment. Not wanting to bombard her and send more messages than I received, I went quiet too and ever since then she seems to have been more distant, and suddenly so busy that there's no chance of seeing her. And I haven't seen her for a month now. There's been bursts of messaging which have sometimes given me hope and sometimes also hinted that she thinks we're just friends, although I haven't yet had the specific and dreaded "I only think of you as a friend" speech. But any time I pay her a compliment, or say anything flirty or cheeky, it now just gets ignored, as if I'd never said it.

It suddenly began to dawn on me what I'd done, and if you go and google "avoid friend zone texting" I've unwittingly done pretty much everything I shouldn't have. I could give a bloody masterclass in what not to do, based on this. I've been her pen pal, been too slow to clearly give her signs that I expected to progress things, been too passive, and now I've become a friend rather than potential romantic partner.

I need to find a way out (or at least try my damned hardest) cos I really like her. Of the women I've chatted to and gone on dates with through Tinder, none have made me feel the same way as her, as relaxed and happy and with so much in common. Any ideas?

I know I need to cut the texting chats and just focus on getting her to meet up with me again. She has a work-related study deadline on Monday that she's going to be preoccupied with as well as having to work crazy long hours all weekend, and there's also a fair on in town next week which makes a great photographic evening out, so I guess I just need to ignore whatever she messages me about, and ask her if she'll go with me one evening next week.

And when she says she hasn't got time, then what? I don't feel prepared to give up on her, I like her too much to do that. frown
I don't think you can do anything. If you have asked her out on a date and she is making up excuses i don't see what else you can do.

Whats wrong with picking up the phone instead of texting? It sounds like you have been out with her several times and not made a move. She has probably moved on or even met someone else.

stroberaver

196 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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ChunkyloverSV said:
Whats wrong with picking up the phone instead of texting? It sounds like you have been out with her several times and not made a move. She has probably moved on or even met someone else.
She said she hates talking on the phone.

I edited my post above to include this: "I don't think she's met someone else as she's been open with everything she has planned and has on (lots of work, studying, and all her free time recently is already taken with planned activities with her girlfriends)."

but yeah, I feel a bit paralysed with regret that even though she said she wanted to take things slow, I now fear she was expecting me to make a move, and I haven't cos I was conscious of not pressuring her too much and scaring her off. fk. frown

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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stroberaver said:
Guys (and perhaps girls), I need some help - I've fked up pretty badly with someone I really like. I think I've blindly walked into the friendzone and I need to get out asap - if that's even possible.

I don't usually talk about personal stuff on forums but I'm worried about it this time, and I'm crap at dating stuff anyway.

Having been single for some time, I joined Tinder at the start of the year. Had a few decent matches and went on a couple of dates that led to nothing - and then I matched with someone I already knew of at the photographic society I go to. We got chatting, swapped numbers, and next time we saw each other at the club we stayed on chatting and got on great. She was visibly pleased and excited that I liked her, all the typical signs and body language. She immediately got me to come along on a group photography outing she was a bit nervous about (she's the shy type, but adorably sweet with it, I'm pretty shy and quiet with girls too so it suited me fine); we had a couple of trips out like that and we'd always spend time together afterwards over a meal etc. There was masses of texting and messaging between us, but it was interspersed with actual real contact - a couple of trips to the cinema, meals out, etc. - so it didn't feel as though anything was wrong.

She did admit at one point that she was so busy with work and stuff that she didn't know whether she wanted a relationship at the moment, and she didn't want to make things awkward at the club, but she was happy to take it slow and see what happened. That sounded bad to me, but it was pretty early on and we continued to have plenty flirty contact and spend some time with her. We're both pretty busy, her more than me with working some crazy long hours and having to do plenty work-related academic study in her own time, but we saw each other occasionally and texted loads, and we both gradually stopped looking at Tinder. Things reached their peak in May when we had a couple of great days out, realised I had a real emotional fondness for her, and we went out for my birthday (which she remembered, even though I'd only mentioned the date once).

And then something changed. While I was away for a weekend (with family), she just went silent for several days after I paid her a compliment. Not wanting to bombard her and send more messages than I received, I went quiet too and ever since then she seems to have been more distant, and suddenly so busy that there's no chance of seeing her. And I haven't seen her for a month now. I don't think she's met someone else as she's been open with everything she has planned and has on (lots of work, studying, and all her free time recently is already taken with planned activities with her girlfriends). There's been bursts of messaging which have sometimes given me hope and sometimes also hinted that she thinks we're just friends, although I haven't yet had the specific and dreaded "I only think of you as a friend" speech. But any time I pay her a compliment, or say anything flirty or cheeky, it now just gets ignored, as if I'd never said it.

It suddenly began to dawn on me what I'd done, and if you go and google "avoid friend zone texting" I've unwittingly done pretty much everything I shouldn't have. I could give a bloody masterclass in what not to do, based on this. I've been her pen pal, been too slow to clearly give her signs that I expected to progress things, been too passive, and now I've become a friend rather than potential romantic partner.

I need to find a way out (or at least try my damned hardest) cos I really like her. Of the women I've chatted to and gone on dates with through Tinder, none have made me feel the same way as her, as relaxed and happy and with so much in common. Any ideas?

I know I need to cut the texting chats and just focus on getting her to meet up with me again. She has a work-related study deadline on Monday that she's going to be preoccupied with as well as having to work crazy long hours all weekend, and there's also a fair on in town next week which makes a great photographic evening out, so I guess I just need to ignore whatever she messages me about, and ask her if she'll go with me one evening next week.

And when she says she hasn't got time, then what? I don't feel prepared to give up on her, I like her too much to do that. frown

Edited by stroberaver on Wednesday 17th June 13:00
"Hey, seems like we've not been out for ages, when are you free next"?

ChunkyloverSV

1,333 posts

192 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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stroberaver said:
She said she hates talking on the phone.

I edited my post above to include this: "I don't think she's met someone else as she's been open with everything she has planned and has on (lots of work, studying, and all her free time recently is already taken with planned activities with her girlfriends)."

but yeah, I feel a bit paralysed with regret that even though she said she wanted to take things slow, I now fear she was expecting me to make a move, and I haven't cos I was conscious of not pressuring her too much and scaring her off. fk. frown
How many dates have you been on? All you can do is ask to see her and make your intentions clear

Thankyou4calling

10,602 posts

173 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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I'm afraid this woman has met someone else and can't bring herself to tell you.

trackdemon

12,182 posts

261 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Thankyou4calling said:
I'm afraid this woman has met someone else and can't bring herself to tell you.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Sounds like this, bang on...

Final option is to man up, and activate her 'want' zone by making some overtly romantic - but at the same time masculine - gesture. Or stalk her, then you'll know for sure... smile

stroberaver

196 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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ChunkyloverSV said:
How many dates have you been on? All you can do is ask to see her and make your intentions clear
Maybe 3-4 specifically between us. Maybe 6-7 if you include group activities that have ended up with just the two of us sharing a meal or takeaway together afterwards.

Thankyou4calling said:
I'm afraid this woman has met someone else and can't bring herself to tell you.
I know, that thought is preying on my mind too. But there's a few things that count against that...

1) the weekend she suddenly went silent and seemed to change, she wasn't out anywhere - she was working all weekend and ended up getting a nasty cold that caused her to get sent home from work; it's not like she was out socialising where she'd meet someone.
2) She hasn't added any new facebook friends recently.
3) She's dated online before but she's moderately inactive on Tinder - although I guess that doesn't mean anything once you exchange numbers and don't need to go on Tinder to chat.

Something that counts towards the possibility is that she joined a new gym nearly a couple of months ago. She could've caught somebody's eye and be interested in someone there, and I'd never know about it. However she was always a fitness addict so I can't detect a sudden increase in how often she goes to the gym - she's always gone loads and continues to do so!

trackdemon said:
Final option is to man up, and activate her 'want' zone by making some overtly romantic - but at the same time masculine - gesture.
I'm not sure I know what I could do in that field.

CountZero23

1,288 posts

178 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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stroberaver said:
Some pretty wet and depressing stuff.
It sounds like you've been dicking about with this girl for longer than most of my relationships last...

You need to be clear in your intent with girls, you have acted likea friend and now she is treating you as one.

Get back in Tinder, get as many dates as you can in and have fun. Don't bother contacting her, be polite but distant. We all want what we can't have.

At the very least it will help get you over her and stop you from overinvesting in a girl who you've not even held hands with.






WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
"Hey, seems like we've not been out for ages, when are you free next"?
Tap tap, is this thing working scratchchin

Text her that, it's an open and friendly question but requires a direct answer.

CountZero23

1,288 posts

178 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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WinstonWolf said:
WinstonWolf said:
"Hey, seems like we've not been out for ages, when are you free next"?
Tap tap, is this thing working scratchchin

Text her that, it's an open and friendly question but requires a direct answer.
+1

The necromancer line I always use when things have been quiet for a bit between me and a girl is "It feels like we're drifting apart". Obviously works well when you're clearly not invested and they take it as a joke.

Feel in stroberaver's case it would be taken all too seriously.

6-7 'dates' and you've not pulled the trigger?! Nice bottle or two of wine, good movie, snuggle up on the sofa - how can anything not happen!?

I'm aghast.


Shnozz

27,473 posts

271 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Thankyou4calling said:
I'm afraid this woman has met someone else and can't bring herself to tell you.
Possibly this or she was on tinder for dates rather than wanting something more.

I had a promising tinder match that amounted to nothing as she realised she didn't have the time to engage in anything more serious. Work commitments, family etc etc. Disappointing but then everyone has their own agenda on there and its one of the more vapid "dating" sites so its not like its a soul mates sign up. Each to their own.

Either way, there is fook all you can do IMO. Move on and don't waste any more time or effort on her.

ETA - the fact she openly says she isn't sure whether she wants a relationship at the moment is a big flag - take heed. It can only end badly in my experience...

Edited by Shnozz on Wednesday 17th June 14:33

ChunkyloverSV

1,333 posts

192 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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stroberaver said:
I'm not sure I know what I could do in that field.
With those numbers I'm guessing she has taken the hint you just want to be friends.

As you said she keeps fit and goes to the gym. Any decent looking girl is fighting guys off with a sty stick. She could have definitely met someone in the gym.

My advice is to do what Mr Wolf suggests and see what happens. But if she agrees to meet you, you need to man up and make a move.

Studio117

4,250 posts

191 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Shnozz said:
Thankyou4calling said:
I'm afraid this woman has met someone else and can't bring herself to tell you.
Possibly this or she was on tinder for dates rather than wanting something more.

I had a promising tinder match that amounted to nothing as she realised she didn't have the time to engage in anything more serious. Work commitments, family etc etc. Disappointing but then everyone has their own agenda on there and its one of the more vapid "dating" sites so its not like its a soul mates sign up. Each to their own.

Either way, there is fook all you can do IMO. Move on and don't waste any more time or effort on her.
Treat is like a numbers game. No response to message within 6 hours, unmatch. No phone number within 48hours, unmatch. No date within a week, unmatch.

Otherwise you're just wasting your own time.

Shnozz

27,473 posts

271 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Tinder has been going off the chart in sunny Toronto at the minute. 58 matches and several "dates" later and the English accent is a raging success.

On the home front, a promising match via the happn app - very amusing banter and closest lookey likey is Salma Hayek. We shall see how accurate that is over a drink.

I'm at the point of knocking Tinder et al on the head to enjoy a summer of singledom. Will see off the existing chats and then delete the app and reinstall it later in the year. Getting quite tired of it all truth be told.




RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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I wonder how many people on this thread have been unwittingly trying to woo the same lady at the same time.

leglessAlex

5,448 posts

141 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Shnozz said:
Either way, there is fook all you can do IMO. Move on and don't waste any more time or effort on her.
I agree with this, moving on is the best thing to do.

I get very hung up on girls, and I know how much it sucks but you have to just move on. There might be loads of reasons why she's gone quiet, there's no point in torturing yourself by trying to guess exactly what's caused it.

By all means try and meet up with her and tell her straight you want a relationship, but you probably already know what the answer is going to be, why waste the energy?

Studio117

4,250 posts

191 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Shnozz said:
I'm at the point of knocking Tinder et al on the head to enjoy a summer of singledom. Will see off the existing chats and then delete the app and reinstall it later in the year. Getting quite tired of it all truth be told.
I realised the other night, all i had done was stare at my phone for hours on end talking to semi-fictional munters.

laugh

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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Shnozz said:
I'm at the point of knocking Tinder et al on the head to enjoy a summer of singledom. Will see off the existing chats and then delete the app and reinstall it later in the year. Getting quite tired of it all truth be told.
Do that and you'll be beating them off with a stty stick. biggrin

I was going nowhere with dating sites so decided to join a few Meetup groups just to socialise, do what I wanted to do and get me out of the house really, I wasn't looking to pull.
It only took a few meets with two of the groups before I was being messaged by three different women. One saw me out through Winter and another i'm seeing at the weekend....

It seems odd, but I don't get any luck when approaching women, but when I go all nonchalant they're coming after me. The first one didn't even speak to me, she just saw me, fancied a bit and asked me out.
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