3 yr old Son dressing up in girls costume
Discussion
blindswelledrat said:
Also, a question to those people who are generally uncomfortable with it.
Just say, hypothetically, that you had a son who you had raised as a boy, tried to make play football, bought masculine clothes for and killed stuff with who was increasingly camp and indifferent to your mens things until it became completely apparent that they were 100% bender.
At that point would you accept it and let them be gay as a youngster, would you keep trying to fight it and hope it would go away, or something half way in between i.e. "This is MY house and MY rules. Do what you want when you leave home but until then you will not pick flowers, wear tutus, read Heat magazine or watch Strictly COme Dancing"
(I assume that's all gay people do but not completely sure)
Well?
Sounds familiar...Just say, hypothetically, that you had a son who you had raised as a boy, tried to make play football, bought masculine clothes for and killed stuff with who was increasingly camp and indifferent to your mens things until it became completely apparent that they were 100% bender.
At that point would you accept it and let them be gay as a youngster, would you keep trying to fight it and hope it would go away, or something half way in between i.e. "This is MY house and MY rules. Do what you want when you leave home but until then you will not pick flowers, wear tutus, read Heat magazine or watch Strictly COme Dancing"
(I assume that's all gay people do but not completely sure)
Well?
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blindswelledrat said:
I know this is going off on a tangent but this is an interesting thing
I heard a statistic the other day that 80% of cross dressers/ transvestites (I don't know if there's a difference) are straight.
Even though I consider myself open-minded and educated on things I must admit to be gobsmacked, verging on cynical of this stat.
The reason I assumed they were all gay was an assumption (rightly or wrongly) that men liked to wear dresses because they felt like a woman, or had a female mind or whatever. Sort of a half-way house to Frank 'Kelly' Maloney who actually considers himself to be a woman. Thus as a 'woman' they would be attracted to men.
Obviously isn't the case if there is any truth to that statistic
Transvestite and cross-dresser are synonyms, as far as I'm aware. They're (generally) men who on the whole don't identify with being female, they just like dressing that way for whatever reason - as a kink usually. Often it's sexual (a turn-on). Since a lot more men are heterosexual than homosexual, it rather follows that more transvestite men are going to be heterosexual. I heard a statistic the other day that 80% of cross dressers/ transvestites (I don't know if there's a difference) are straight.
Even though I consider myself open-minded and educated on things I must admit to be gobsmacked, verging on cynical of this stat.
The reason I assumed they were all gay was an assumption (rightly or wrongly) that men liked to wear dresses because they felt like a woman, or had a female mind or whatever. Sort of a half-way house to Frank 'Kelly' Maloney who actually considers himself to be a woman. Thus as a 'woman' they would be attracted to men.
Obviously isn't the case if there is any truth to that statistic
Kellie Maloney is transsexual, which means she literally feels she is in the wrong body and wants to correct that through surgery, and transition from one gender binary to the other.
Then between the two extremes of this spectrum you have transgender, which can mean anything from "both" to "neither" to "either".
Obviously there is a lot of blurring between the demarcations and also not everyone agrees as to which is transsexual and which is transgender. Some people refer to transgender as "gender fluid" or "gender queer".
Like so much in life, it's not black & white, and it isn't something easily pigeon-holed although obviously people try to.
It's not too dissimilar in concept to the sexuality spectrum - you've got 100% straight at one end and 100% homosexual at the other, and everything in between is a degree of bisexual. Strangely, the mainstream seem happy to accept a sexuality spectrum yet struggle to accept a gender spectrum.
(Apologies for length)
I've not read the entire thread.
To the OP,
I dressed up in girls stuff as a kid, well past the age of 3. I'm now 24, in a 8 year long (male/female) relationship, with a 22 month old son. I don't dress up like a girl anymore, and it hasn't affected me in later life.
I'd rein the mrs in a little, but honestly don't worry too much about it. Get on the manly weekends fishing/hunting/whatever when he gets old enough, but at the end of the day, we live in a very modern world now, so please try to be understanding if he does turn to the 'other' persuasion.
You could go and buy him some action man (or whatever it is nowadays) costumes with guns and swords and chase him round the house having battles?
To the OP,
I dressed up in girls stuff as a kid, well past the age of 3. I'm now 24, in a 8 year long (male/female) relationship, with a 22 month old son. I don't dress up like a girl anymore, and it hasn't affected me in later life.
I'd rein the mrs in a little, but honestly don't worry too much about it. Get on the manly weekends fishing/hunting/whatever when he gets old enough, but at the end of the day, we live in a very modern world now, so please try to be understanding if he does turn to the 'other' persuasion.
You could go and buy him some action man (or whatever it is nowadays) costumes with guns and swords and chase him round the house having battles?
Willy Holloughby said:
That's not a troll from here. Oh no, not at all. How did this thread get to 30+ pages........
Anyway, he probably just likes Tangled and will probably change his favourite thing next week.
I had a he-man and She-Ra toys as a kid, I brushed She-Ra's hair, this was not due to any feeling of homosexuality, its because I liked my toys to be neat.
I am heterosexual, but have a ridiculously tidy man cave, so on balance he probably just likes the costume and will either become a fashion designer or be really good at dress up\cosplay
Anyway, he probably just likes Tangled and will probably change his favourite thing next week.
I had a he-man and She-Ra toys as a kid, I brushed She-Ra's hair, this was not due to any feeling of homosexuality, its because I liked my toys to be neat.
I am heterosexual, but have a ridiculously tidy man cave, so on balance he probably just likes the costume and will either become a fashion designer or be really good at dress up\cosplay
FredClogs said:
To be honest any fancy dress outside the house in a non party situation (i.e going to the dentist dressed as batman) should be discouraged.
Nobody said anything discouraging when I went into work dressed as the Grim Reaper, I think it's because I looked like death that morning.Tiggsy said:
GroundEffect said:
Sounds like OP is the insecure one.
The idea of stuff being 'for boys' or'for girls' is just stupidity.
Really?The idea of stuff being 'for boys' or'for girls' is just stupidity.
You have kids?
and to the poster that asked...YES...his Mrs is going to the Disney Store, skipping the action hero gear and outfitting the kid like a fairy. (one with wings....not one with leather chaps and a fake tash)
And the. You have the double standard - it's OK for girls to like 'boys' stuff like football and Lego and climbing trees but if a boy were to like 'girl' things? Heaven forbid! Burn the faggot!
Ridiculous.
GroundEffect said:
Tiggsy said:
GroundEffect said:
Sounds like OP is the insecure one.
The idea of stuff being 'for boys' or'for girls' is just stupidity.
Really?The idea of stuff being 'for boys' or'for girls' is just stupidity.
You have kids?
and to the poster that asked...YES...his Mrs is going to the Disney Store, skipping the action hero gear and outfitting the kid like a fairy. (one with wings....not one with leather chaps and a fake tash)
its not that odd that the OP wants to adopt a little "whats normal" for his kid!
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