3 yr old Son dressing up in girls costume
Discussion
Tiggsy said:
so is covering sexual organs with fabric, crapping in private, etc, etc
its not that odd that the OP wants to adopt a little "whats normal" for his kid!
Crapping out the window into the street below was normal once. As were codpieces.its not that odd that the OP wants to adopt a little "whats normal" for his kid!
'Normal' is a pretty transient social construct really.
JonRB said:
Tiggsy said:
so is covering sexual organs with fabric, crapping in private, etc, etc
its not that odd that the OP wants to adopt a little "whats normal" for his kid!
Crapping out the window into the street below was normal once. As were codpieces.its not that odd that the OP wants to adopt a little "whats normal" for his kid!
'Normal' is a pretty transient social construct really.
Tiggsy said:
Agree - and at this stage in time, dresses are for girls in the UK. I'm sure there are examples of those who flout that "rule"....but if I show you someone who craps out the window in 2014 does that make it fine and dandy?
OK, bad analogy. Anyway, point is that 'normal' isn't all it's cracked up to be. 
Tiggsy said:
GroundEffect said:
Tiggsy said:
GroundEffect said:
Sounds like OP is the insecure one.
The idea of stuff being 'for boys' or'for girls' is just stupidity.
Really?The idea of stuff being 'for boys' or'for girls' is just stupidity.
You have kids?
and to the poster that asked...YES...his Mrs is going to the Disney Store, skipping the action hero gear and outfitting the kid like a fairy. (one with wings....not one with leather chaps and a fake tash)
its not that odd that the OP wants to adopt a little "whats normal" for his kid!
blindswelledrat said:
I know this is going off on a tangent but this is an interesting thing
I heard a statistic the other day that 80% of cross dressers/ transvestites (I don't know if there's a difference) are straight.
Even though I consider myself open-minded and educated on things I must admit to be gobsmacked, verging on cynical of this stat.
The reason I assumed they were all gay was an assumption (rightly or wrongly) that men liked to wear dresses because they felt like a woman, or had a female mind or whatever. Sort of a half-way house to Frank 'Kelly' Maloney who actually considers himself to be a woman. Thus as a 'woman' they would be attracted to men.
Obviously isn't the case if there is any truth to that statistic
My experience of being around "Trannys", from being in the clubs in London about 10 years ago is that most of them want to be lesbians. The majority just seemed to be excited/fulfilled/contented by wearing women's clothing, and let's face it stockings, suspenders - kinky clothes are way more attractive than wellies and a duffel coat.I heard a statistic the other day that 80% of cross dressers/ transvestites (I don't know if there's a difference) are straight.
Even though I consider myself open-minded and educated on things I must admit to be gobsmacked, verging on cynical of this stat.
The reason I assumed they were all gay was an assumption (rightly or wrongly) that men liked to wear dresses because they felt like a woman, or had a female mind or whatever. Sort of a half-way house to Frank 'Kelly' Maloney who actually considers himself to be a woman. Thus as a 'woman' they would be attracted to men.
Obviously isn't the case if there is any truth to that statistic
Most cross-dressers just seemed really upset that they could not go out in public wearing the clothes they wanted to wear without being attacked by the knuckle draggers, and so there was an upsurge in clubs and pubs where their desires and behaviour was considered more than acceptable.
It's easy to laugh/criticize these people, in just the same way we laugh/criticize females who are over-weight.
It's pretty f
king pathetic in my mind to look at someone and criticize them for dressing/appearing the way that they desire to be. When we read the threads about people having tattoos - full sleeve but not beyond the wrist, not for public show, hide it, shut it away and don't let the gen-pub see it.It must be a miserable existence for such people.
TheExcession said:
It's easy to laugh/criticize these people, in just the same way we laugh/criticize females who are over-weight.
It's pretty fking pathetic in my mind to look at someone and criticize them for dressing/appearing the way that they desire to be. When we read the threads about people having tattoos - full sleeve but not beyond the wrist, not for public show, hide it, shut it away and don't let the gen-pub see it.
And Goths. And Emos. Indeed, anyone who is deemed to be "different". It's pretty f
king pathetic in my mind to look at someone and criticize them for dressing/appearing the way that they desire to be. When we read the threads about people having tattoos - full sleeve but not beyond the wrist, not for public show, hide it, shut it away and don't let the gen-pub see it.Quite frankly it surprises me that you are allowed not to like football in this country. God forbid you should have a mind of your own and go your own way.
TheExcession said:
My experience of being around "Trannys", from being in the clubs in London about 10 years ago is that most of them want to be lesbians. The majority just seemed to be excited/fulfilled/contented by wearing women's clothing, and let's face it stockings, suspenders - kinky clothes are way more attractive than wellies and a duffel coat.
Most cross-dressers just seemed really upset that they could not go out in public wearing the clothes they wanted to wear without being attacked by the knuckle draggers, and so there was an upsurge in clubs and pubs where their desires and behaviour was considered more than acceptable.
It's easy to laugh/criticize these people, in just the same way we laugh/criticize females who are over-weight.
It's pretty fking pathetic in my mind to look at someone and criticize them for dressing/appearing the way that they desire to be. When we read the threads about people having tattoos - full sleeve but not beyond the wrist, not for public show, hide it, shut it away and don't let the gen-pub see it.
It must be a miserable existence for such people.
While I agree with what you're saying when applied to adolescents / adults. I'm not sure how much applies to the thoughts of a three year old.Most cross-dressers just seemed really upset that they could not go out in public wearing the clothes they wanted to wear without being attacked by the knuckle draggers, and so there was an upsurge in clubs and pubs where their desires and behaviour was considered more than acceptable.
It's easy to laugh/criticize these people, in just the same way we laugh/criticize females who are over-weight.
It's pretty f
king pathetic in my mind to look at someone and criticize them for dressing/appearing the way that they desire to be. When we read the threads about people having tattoos - full sleeve but not beyond the wrist, not for public show, hide it, shut it away and don't let the gen-pub see it.It must be a miserable existence for such people.
I imagine (not being able to remember being 3) that the boy's thoughts are not driven by how he feels about his sexuality, wanting to be different or what stereotypes he's either conforming to or undermining. More likely it's "I like this, I'll do this"
While the father is likely to be criticised for forcing his macho stereotypes on the boy, his mother is doing the exact same thing. This doesn't seem to be letting the boy decide but putting him in a dress / costume and there is an important difference. Having a friend who's a girl and playing at her house means the environment is likely to be more "young girl" orientated so playing dress-up there will inevitably lead to dressing up in her clothes / costumers.
I'm all for letting the boy do what he wants and learning about his own sexuality and being supported whatever, but society being the way it is, what the mother is doing is leaving the boy open to ridicule (posting pics on facebook and commenting on them FFS!), that's not letting him decide in his own time.
OP you have to reign your wife in on this but ensure you are the neutral one and not intent on forcing him to do something another way.
OT I would not want anyone else posting pics of my kids on facebook that I hadn't already cleared ESPECIALLY when they could be open to ridicule.
Hackney said:
While the father is likely to be criticised for forcing his macho stereotypes on the boy, his mother is doing the exact same thing. This doesn't seem to be letting the boy decide but putting him in a dress / costume and there is an important difference. Having a friend who's a girl and playing at her house means the environment is likely to be more "young girl" orientated so playing dress-up there will inevitably lead to dressing up in her clothes / costumers.
This may surprise you, but I actually agree with you. 
JonRB said:
Hackney said:
While the father is likely to be criticised for forcing his macho stereotypes on the boy, his mother is doing the exact same thing. This doesn't seem to be letting the boy decide but putting him in a dress / costume and there is an important difference. Having a friend who's a girl and playing at her house means the environment is likely to be more "young girl" orientated so playing dress-up there will inevitably lead to dressing up in her clothes / costumers.
This may surprise you, but I actually agree with you. 
hora said:
Every day I'd go to the nursery to pick my lad up....to find him dressed in a pink Tutu.
I just laughed. Nursery said they hid it but he'd find it again. TBH I thought he did it for my reaction. Who cares? I once wore a short tight floral number to a fancy dress party. Jesus I got female attention (and felt fabulous to boot).
Good on you! I just laughed. Nursery said they hid it but he'd find it again. TBH I thought he did it for my reaction. Who cares? I once wore a short tight floral number to a fancy dress party. Jesus I got female attention (and felt fabulous to boot).
Life is for living. f
k convention. 
(Corrected all typos & speelung in quote too. No charge.
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