3 yr old Son dressing up in girls costume

3 yr old Son dressing up in girls costume

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Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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UnderTheRadar said:
JonRB said:
I rather feel like I'm pissing into the ocean here, but people still seem to be confusing sexuality with gender identity.

"Dressing in girls clothes means you're gay". Just think on that for a moment and consider how utterly, utterly ridiculous that statement is.
IMO it's not kind to label people as ignorant or hostile when in fact they are just being where they are which may be different. I came across an angler a few weeks back. He'd caught a fish and looked happy about it so I thought I'd be friendly and congratulate him. I asked if it was a perch and he looked at me with complete scorn and said it was a roach. I know nothing about angling, have no interest in angling but I have no problem with people who are. To him subtle distinctions about fishing were incredibly important enough to be rude to friendly others. The point I'm trying to get at (rather long windedly) is that what is a big factor in your life doesn't mean it should be in everyone elses and you may attack them. There are people in safety groups who have lost a relative through excessive speed - they are understandably very hurt but do we think their thoughts should be applied to everyone and anyone who disagrees should be berated?
Thinking "girls clothes equals gay" is as nonsense as you asking the fisherman "did you pluck that out of a tree"

JonRB

74,402 posts

271 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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UnderTheRadar said:
IMO it's not kind to label people as ignorant or hostile when in fact they are just being where they are which may be different.
If my post came across as hostile then that was not the intent. The phrase "pissing in the ocean" was meant in the sense of "shouting into the wind" - as in an action that seemingly has no effect or discernible result.

UnderTheRadar said:
I came across an angler a few weeks back. He'd caught a fish and looked happy about it so I thought I'd be friendly and congratulate him. I asked if it was a perch and he looked at me with complete scorn and said it was a roach.
Well, to continue your analogy, it would rather depend of whether it was the first time you asked him, or whether you frequently bumped into him whilst walking the dog, or at your local skittles club, or wherever, and you'd asked him the same question several times already and been told the same answer several times.
Or, perhaps, if you'd asked him if it was a badger. Or asked how he could be fishing without a horse.

UnderTheRadar said:
To him subtle distinctions about fishing were incredibly important enough to be rude to friendly others.
I'm not really sure that the difference between Gender Identity and Sexuality are a "subtle distinction". One is how you see yourself, and the other is who you are sexually attracted to. And, as I've said several times in this thread, a child of 3 doesn't *have* a sexuality, which does rather make statements suggesting he might be gay rather ridiculous. I don't see this as some kind of hair splitting - it seems pretty fundamental to me.

The whole "if he dresses in girls clothes then he must be gay" thing just strikes me as casual ignorance, in much the same way as saying that women can't drive, all Oriental people must be good at Martial Arts and all black people have a natural sense of rhythm.

UnderTheRadar said:
The point I'm trying to get at (rather long windedly) is that what is a big factor in your life doesn't mean it should be in everyone elses and you may attack them. There are people in safety groups who have lost a relative through excessive speed - they are understandably very hurt but do we think their thoughts should be applied to everyone and anyone who disagrees should be berated?
I'm not attacking anyone. However, if I read stuff that is blatantly incorrect then I will counter with the correct facts, as have other people to me. I've learnt lots of stuff from PH over the years by people with knowledge in different domains to me writing about them. Knowledge is for sharing.