So what do we think the UK will be like in 50yrs from now?
Discussion
1. Weather wise it will still be the same unpredictable experience I have known since my childhood. Homes will still flood due to being built on floodplains
2. Marriages will have shrunk and around 75% will be living together
3. We will make even less of consumed goods importing the majority
4. More nuclear power stations will have been built despite opposition to them as "natural energy sources" are found to be lacking in delivery.
5. The UK will still be governed by a 2 party system which will consist of the Conservative Party and the Labour Democrats - the liberal democrats having merged with the Labour Party some 35 years previously. Other parties will exist but there will be little real opposition from them despite some reasonable support from them. These other parties will capture votes in mid term and council elections as a sort of "protest goalnet" to enable people to show their displeasure(s) at whichever of the 2 parties is in power at the time
6. All UK Police will be armed
7. The English football team will be preparing for Euro 2062 but will face tough matches from the Macedonian team in their group
2. Marriages will have shrunk and around 75% will be living together
3. We will make even less of consumed goods importing the majority
4. More nuclear power stations will have been built despite opposition to them as "natural energy sources" are found to be lacking in delivery.
5. The UK will still be governed by a 2 party system which will consist of the Conservative Party and the Labour Democrats - the liberal democrats having merged with the Labour Party some 35 years previously. Other parties will exist but there will be little real opposition from them despite some reasonable support from them. These other parties will capture votes in mid term and council elections as a sort of "protest goalnet" to enable people to show their displeasure(s) at whichever of the 2 parties is in power at the time
6. All UK Police will be armed
7. The English football team will be preparing for Euro 2062 but will face tough matches from the Macedonian team in their group
trashbat said:
In fifty years, Pistonheads will still exist and look exactly the same. It'll be throwing a '125 years of Pistonheads' party. Not a single person will actually attend but they'll later recount how lovely it was.
All the UKIP voters of today will be dead.
And JAYB will be known as JAGB and Kinky will be Floppy.All the UKIP voters of today will be dead.
CrutyRammers said:
NRS said:
It's racist when your complaining about foreigners because they're different. It's what a race is...?
Well, no.I suspect that, like many, what he is daring to not be completely happy about, is foreign cultures, not races.
I've yet to meet anyone who dislikes someone of a different race who is well integrated. The problem is lack of integration, and that's not about race, it's about culture.
Unfortunately the last 20 or so years of telling everyone that any thought that people should integrate is "racist" has left people unable to think beyond the knee-jerk "oh you must hate brown people then. Racist." type of response.
This country has changed massively since I were a lad, and I'll be honest, I'm not crazy about it. And that's not just because I hate darkies either.
Go look at Baghdad, Tehran, Kingston etc. They're not 'vibrant, alive and interesting', they're f
king stholes. There's a lot of good stuff in foreign cultures, but there's also an awful lot that would make Britain a worse place to live.If those countries were the models that we should be basing society on they would have people queueing up at the door to get in. I'm not seeing those queues...
otolith said:
It's a poor proxy for cultural identity. I don't think, for example, Lewis Hamilton is less culturally British by dint of his skin colour.
It is mainly a cultural thing. His father is obviously not white, but is very 'British' culturally. Contrast that to a teenage Pakistani bride, who lives in bradford, can't speak english, has probably NEVER spoken to any local british people, watches Al Jazeera etc. That isn't integration, someone like that is arguably of no net benefit to the uk. ferrari1 said:
Seems to be a thread full of middle-aged white men who failed to achieve anything notable in their lives and justify it by blaming it on 'those fking foreigners stealing our jobs'.
Very sad state of affairs.
No, I think that's just you characterising some genuine concerns in a way that lets you dismiss them without having to engage with the argument. Much easier just to shout "racist" than, you know, think.king foreigners stealing our jobs'. Very sad state of affairs.
Thankyou4calling said:
I can't understand people talking about this and that generation. People aren't born in great 25 year tranches and all grow up and old before the next tranche comes along.
I've a brother 13 years younger, is he a different generation? A partner half my age, is she? I've freinds 20 years older. The generation thing is all nonsense to my mind.
Anyhow, weather will be same as now, same as it's been for hundreds of years.
We won't be teleporting to places or eating pills as meal replacements.
Robots won't have replaced people or jobs and it'll take longer to fly to America than it foes now (door to door) as it does compared to 20 years ago.
People will be a bit taller, a bit fatter, a bit wealthier, they'll go on about now as a golden era.
You won't be able to grow a limb or organ but probably buy one and have it grafted on.
Africa will still be a mess with famine and disease widespread and the Middle East will still be volatile.
A person from now, if transported forward 50 years would slot in quite easily.
Indeed. I've a brother 13 years younger, is he a different generation? A partner half my age, is she? I've freinds 20 years older. The generation thing is all nonsense to my mind.
Anyhow, weather will be same as now, same as it's been for hundreds of years.
We won't be teleporting to places or eating pills as meal replacements.
Robots won't have replaced people or jobs and it'll take longer to fly to America than it foes now (door to door) as it does compared to 20 years ago.
People will be a bit taller, a bit fatter, a bit wealthier, they'll go on about now as a golden era.
You won't be able to grow a limb or organ but probably buy one and have it grafted on.
Africa will still be a mess with famine and disease widespread and the Middle East will still be volatile.
A person from now, if transported forward 50 years would slot in quite easily.
In 50 years' time, there will still be old idiots moaning about the young, as there have been since, forever.
Here: quotes about moral decline in the young. The OP must be part of the most degenerate generation to ever live, just like the one before them.
Either that, or raiders will have taken over, which means most of the elderly will be eaten (good for my potential kids I guess, plenty of good eating on me right now).
Oh, and we'll all be coffee coloured apparently <\ukip>.
Serious? Probably not that different. But I'm pessimistic about the economy, we just haven't created enough good jobs. "The rich get richer", but in the last 50 years that wasn't a problem, because everybody was. Now? Less sure.
And if that doesn't happen, we're going to have to start looking seriously at some point at our population (including the "i" word), our pension system, and our healthcare system.
So: tighter controls on immigration, more people living in "generational" homes, and a choice: pensions or healthcare for the elderly. Not both.
Driving in most cities will not be banned, but so hideously unattractive only government and the mega-rich do so. Hopefully by that point, big manufacturers don't bother putting that useless round twirly thing in front of the passenger anymore - if there is one thing the next generation will think of when they want to feel better than us, it will be road safety.
Purity14 said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Purity14 said:
The most popular boys name in the UK is now Mohammed, if you include all the Muhammed, Mohammed's etc.
No it isn't Let me furnish you with a daily mail link; Here
Other news/information sources are available.
Purity14 said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Purity14 said:
The most popular boys name in the UK is now Mohammed, if you include all the Muhammed, Mohammed's etc.
No it isn't Let me furnish you with a daily mail link; Here
Other news/information sources are available.
ETA, maybe they could work out all the variations of James whilst they're at it
Odd that the Daily Mail can go down the list for all the different variations of Mohammed, but can't manage it with Oliver. It is almost like they are trying to create a reaction. I'm not sure what the problem is anyway, given that virtually every Muslim family with a male child will have one called Mohammed. If every non-Muslim family had a son called Dave or a daughter called Beyonce it would be the top by absolutely miles.
Edited by wolves_wanderer on Tuesday 19th August 11:36
MrBarry123 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24813467
And the three most important extracts from it:
1. Those from the European Economic Area (EEA - the EU plus Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein)... in the decade up to 2011, contributing 34% more in taxes than they received in benefits.
2. Immigrants from outside the EEA contributed 2% more in taxes than they received in the same period, the report showed.
3. Over the same period, British people paid 11% less in tax than they received.
ETA: Evidence of benefit tourism being alive and well. It's just not from abroad but from one's White British house to the Jobcentre.
Sadly it gets a bit more complex the longer you look at it:And the three most important extracts from it:
1. Those from the European Economic Area (EEA - the EU plus Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein)... in the decade up to 2011, contributing 34% more in taxes than they received in benefits.
2. Immigrants from outside the EEA contributed 2% more in taxes than they received in the same period, the report showed.
3. Over the same period, British people paid 11% less in tax than they received.
ETA: Evidence of benefit tourism being alive and well. It's just not from abroad but from one's White British house to the Jobcentre.
Edited by MrBarry123 on Monday 18th August 18:20
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25880373
The key take away is that immigrants are young, healthy and hard working - so net contribute to the Exchequer. However, eventually, they become old, infirm and retired - so they become a drain. Given that few of them (and we can argue the reasons) attain great wealth or even make it into the upper echelons of the salary scales, they are probably a net drain to the State over their lives (most people in the UK are too).
Britain has improved beyond recognition over the last 50 years and I expect this process to continue.
We are now a much richer, safer, more diverse, better educated and vastly more tolerant society than we have ever been in our history and this makes me proud to be British. I am confident that this social progress will continue and accelerate and we will become a fairer and much more equal society.
There are still problems to overcome, however. Britain is still far too unequal, with the richest 1% in our society possessing far too much wealth, power and influence. Our education system is still failing too many young people who leave school semi-literate and innumerate with no prospects.
The problem of religious extremists whose mediaeval ideology is fundamentally incompatible with the values of a secular, liberal, democratic European society will have to be tackled, and that will be difficult and painful.
We are now a much richer, safer, more diverse, better educated and vastly more tolerant society than we have ever been in our history and this makes me proud to be British. I am confident that this social progress will continue and accelerate and we will become a fairer and much more equal society.
There are still problems to overcome, however. Britain is still far too unequal, with the richest 1% in our society possessing far too much wealth, power and influence. Our education system is still failing too many young people who leave school semi-literate and innumerate with no prospects.
The problem of religious extremists whose mediaeval ideology is fundamentally incompatible with the values of a secular, liberal, democratic European society will have to be tackled, and that will be difficult and painful.
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