So what do we think the UK will be like in 50yrs from now?
Discussion
The Hypno-Toad said:
I think it all depends where the nuke goes off & who is responsible. Notice the way I don't say if. I firmly believe that within our lifetime there will be an act of nuclear terrorism.
As we sit in front of our computer blithely typing out posts about Arsenal or if Cliff is fiddling with kids or even if one of our members wrote a rather cracking one hit wonder, somebody else is sitting in front a screen trying to work out how to fulfil his desire to kill hundreds of thousands, which may in turn lead to the death of millions. And one of the issues with this, is that any bomb that can be built now would have the explosive of more than a couple of Hiroshima's. I think that no matter how many times you watch Terminator 2, I don't believe a lot of todays generation can fully understand the horror of such an event and its long term consequences.
And as I mentioned it all depends where & who & which sky pixie they believe in. If we are lucky it might be an internal dispute, in a country which geo-politically we don't give a toss about, an attempt to draw us in.
London, New York or Rome would be very bad. London & New York because of their political, economic and cultural history. Rome because of its position as the centre of the Christian world. I'm sure revenge would be swift and sure but hopefully contained.
If its Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, things will get very bad, very quickly. The Israelis not only have their own nukes but their own independent systems of delivering them and I would have thought not much patience with regard to just making do with sanctions and a couple of normal airstrikes. If it was, shall we say, the usual suspects, I would have thought Mecca would probably be wiped from the earth like a bug from a windscreen as would the capital city of any state of any country even remotely suspected of having anything to do with it. Basically they would not piss about and it would lead to the whole of the region actually, physically going up in smoke. What this would do to the worlds oil supplies & therefore the basic resources we need to function in the western world doesn't even bear thinking about. Especially when you throw in the threat to food supplies from the spread of fallout as well.
Coming back to that lunatic at his computer screen, has anyone done any research into what effect an EMP of a limited nuclear exchange would be? Hopefully the stories of mega-servers buried deep in Switzerland by all the banks and Google are true because if London is wiped from the map like spittle off the mouth of a baby, we better have a bit more than a few USB sticks as back up for everyone's bank account.
And this is even before we get to long term psychological damage to worlds population. I would have thought whatever group of extremists are to blame, any member of the faith they claim to represent will be looking at the world through barbed wire for a very long period of time.
..... and now here's Bob with the weather! How's it looking out there Bob?
As I understand it, nuclear weapons are really incredibly difficult to 'operate' so some terrorist cell won't have the capability to use them, even if they could get hold of one.As we sit in front of our computer blithely typing out posts about Arsenal or if Cliff is fiddling with kids or even if one of our members wrote a rather cracking one hit wonder, somebody else is sitting in front a screen trying to work out how to fulfil his desire to kill hundreds of thousands, which may in turn lead to the death of millions. And one of the issues with this, is that any bomb that can be built now would have the explosive of more than a couple of Hiroshima's. I think that no matter how many times you watch Terminator 2, I don't believe a lot of todays generation can fully understand the horror of such an event and its long term consequences.
And as I mentioned it all depends where & who & which sky pixie they believe in. If we are lucky it might be an internal dispute, in a country which geo-politically we don't give a toss about, an attempt to draw us in.
London, New York or Rome would be very bad. London & New York because of their political, economic and cultural history. Rome because of its position as the centre of the Christian world. I'm sure revenge would be swift and sure but hopefully contained.
If its Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, things will get very bad, very quickly. The Israelis not only have their own nukes but their own independent systems of delivering them and I would have thought not much patience with regard to just making do with sanctions and a couple of normal airstrikes. If it was, shall we say, the usual suspects, I would have thought Mecca would probably be wiped from the earth like a bug from a windscreen as would the capital city of any state of any country even remotely suspected of having anything to do with it. Basically they would not piss about and it would lead to the whole of the region actually, physically going up in smoke. What this would do to the worlds oil supplies & therefore the basic resources we need to function in the western world doesn't even bear thinking about. Especially when you throw in the threat to food supplies from the spread of fallout as well.
Coming back to that lunatic at his computer screen, has anyone done any research into what effect an EMP of a limited nuclear exchange would be? Hopefully the stories of mega-servers buried deep in Switzerland by all the banks and Google are true because if London is wiped from the map like spittle off the mouth of a baby, we better have a bit more than a few USB sticks as back up for everyone's bank account.
And this is even before we get to long term psychological damage to worlds population. I would have thought whatever group of extremists are to blame, any member of the faith they claim to represent will be looking at the world through barbed wire for a very long period of time.
..... and now here's Bob with the weather! How's it looking out there Bob?
Dirty bombs on the other hand are more of a threat. Also Mecca is in Saudi Arabia who are our friends in the middle east so they wouldn't get nuked I don't think. Tehran maybe.
NRS said:
So you'd be ok with saying "I don't like Scottish people, because of their language, that they drink Iron Bru and are ginger"... you know, all the things that make them Scottish? Remove that and you have nothing that makes them Scottish surely?
Good grief. No, because we share the same culture and language. And for the nth time, it's not about "not liking <insert race>". NRS said:
And how do you decide what is "good" and ok for them to keep? One person enjoying curry is someone else's annoyance about stinky food.
Easy. It's anything which does not clash with our culture. Different foods = fine, FGM = not fine. It's about accepting and joining what's here, not trying to change it into somewhere else.NRS said:
Why not tell all the benefit thieves to integrate?
Why are you trying to conflate "breaking the law" with "introducing a foreign culture" ? Not even vaguely comparable. NRS said:
And what about British people abroad? TYou know, taking all the jobs in other countries? We are terrible at integrating, and create Mini Britain in Spain etc. Do you complain about them? There's a similar number of British people working abroad as those that come in from the EU for example. So for those people complaining about the Poles etc - well, complain about the Brits going the other way.
What about them? They're an irrelevance to the issue at hand which is what is happening here. Not my concern or responsibility. FWIW I think it's very rude to go to someone else's country and not to make the effort to learn the language and integrate.CrutyRammers said:
NRS said:
So you'd be ok with saying "I don't like Scottish people, because of their language, that they drink Iron Bru and are ginger"... you know, all the things that make them Scottish? Remove that and you have nothing that makes them Scottish surely?
Good grief. No, because we share the same culture and language. And for the nth time, it's not about "not liking <insert race>". PorkInsider said:
In 50 years, every single sentence being spoken will sound like a question.
That fecking rising inflection is even infiltrating bloody news reports now.
And of course every one of those sentences will begin with "So".
Actually, this isn't going to take 50 years, is it...
Very good point! These people normally put the word 'like' after every other word.That fecking rising inflection is even infiltrating bloody news reports now.
And of course every one of those sentences will begin with "So".
Actually, this isn't going to take 50 years, is it...
Is this an American thing?
hifihigh said:
As I understand it, nuclear weapons are really incredibly difficult to 'operate' so some terrorist cell won't have the capability to use them, even if they could get hold of one.
Dirty bombs on the other hand are more of a threat. Also Mecca is in Saudi Arabia who are our friends in the middle east so they wouldn't get nuked I don't think. Tehran maybe.
I'm with you on the idea that nuclear weapons are very difficult to operate. I also hold no belief in the "James Bond" style suitcase nukes that the Russians are supposed to have. You can bet that if those did exist one would have been bought or smuggled out and used by now. I think the device itself would be primitive and large enough that it would need to be moved around in a fairer large vehicle. But I also think that where there is a will, there is a way & judging by todays events there would be a lot of mis-guided will floating about the religion of peace at the moment.Dirty bombs on the other hand are more of a threat. Also Mecca is in Saudi Arabia who are our friends in the middle east so they wouldn't get nuked I don't think. Tehran maybe.
However if the most holy city in the Jewish faith is wiped from the mat and think you'll find that all bets will be off even if the Saudis are our friends. As I mentioned, the Israelis will not piss about.
The Hypno-Toad said:
However if the most holy city in the Jewish faith is wiped from the mat and think you'll find that all bets will be off even if the Saudis are our friends. As I mentioned, the Israelis will not piss about.
Given that it's also the third (after Mecca & Medina, I think) most holy site in Islam I'm not convinced that anyone of the Muslim terror groups would be foolish enough to nuke it, as it would be a double-edged sword at best.Kermit power said:
Given that it's also the third (after Mecca & Medina, I think) most holy site in Islam I'm not convinced that anyone of the Muslim terror groups would be foolish enough to nuke it, as it would be a double-edged sword at best.
Fair point but ISIS seem exceptionally retarded, even for a bunch of fundamentalists. I wouldn't put it past them.Kermit power said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
However if the most holy city in the Jewish faith is wiped from the mat and think you'll find that all bets will be off even if the Saudis are our friends. As I mentioned, the Israelis will not piss about.
Given that it's also the third (after Mecca & Medina, I think) most holy site in Islam I'm not convinced that anyone of the Muslim terror groups would be foolish enough to nuke it, as it would be a double-edged sword at best.
Countdown said:
Kermit power said:
Given that it's also the third (after Mecca & Medina, I think) most holy site in Islam I'm not convinced that anyone of the Muslim terror groups would be foolish enough to nuke it, as it would be a double-edged sword at best.
Fair point but ISIS seem exceptionally retarded, even for a bunch of fundamentalists. I wouldn't put it past them.Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Wednesday 20th August 18:11
The Hypno-Toad said:
I think it all depends where the nuke goes off & who is responsible. Notice the way I don't say if. I firmly believe that within our lifetime there will be an act of nuclear terrorism.
As we sit in front of our computer blithely typing out posts about Arsenal or if Cliff is fiddling with kids or even if one of our members wrote a rather cracking one hit wonder, somebody else is sitting in front a screen trying to work out how to fulfil his desire to kill hundreds of thousands, which may in turn lead to the death of millions. And one of the issues with this, is that any bomb that can be built now would have the explosive of more than a couple of Hiroshima's. I think that no matter how many times you watch Terminator 2, I don't believe a lot of todays generation can fully understand the horror of such an event and its long term consequences.
And as I mentioned it all depends where & who & which sky pixie they believe in. If we are lucky it might be an internal dispute, in a country which geo-politically we don't give a toss about, an attempt to draw us in.
London, New York or Rome would be very bad. London & New York because of their political, economic and cultural history. Rome because of its position as the centre of the Christian world. I'm sure revenge would be swift and sure but hopefully contained.
If its Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, things will get very bad, very quickly. The Israelis not only have their own nukes but their own independent systems of delivering them and I would have thought not much patience with regard to just making do with sanctions and a couple of normal airstrikes. If it was, shall we say, the usual suspects, I would have thought Mecca would probably be wiped from the earth like a bug from a windscreen as would the capital city of any state of any country even remotely suspected of having anything to do with it. Basically they would not piss about and it would lead to the whole of the region actually, physically going up in smoke. What this would do to the worlds oil supplies & therefore the basic resources we need to function in the western world doesn't even bear thinking about. Especially when you throw in the threat to food supplies from the spread of fallout as well.
Coming back to that lunatic at his computer screen, has anyone done any research into what effect an EMP of a limited nuclear exchange would be? Hopefully the stories of mega-servers buried deep in Switzerland by all the banks and Google are true because if London is wiped from the map like spittle off the mouth of a baby, we better have a bit more than a few USB sticks as back up for everyone's bank account.
And this is even before we get to long term psychological damage to worlds population. I would have thought whatever group of extremists are to blame, any member of the faith they claim to represent will be looking at the world through barbed wire for a very long period of time.
This is something that does actually worry me. Nuclear or 'dirty bomb' terrorism is just a matter of time and will be a real world changer.As we sit in front of our computer blithely typing out posts about Arsenal or if Cliff is fiddling with kids or even if one of our members wrote a rather cracking one hit wonder, somebody else is sitting in front a screen trying to work out how to fulfil his desire to kill hundreds of thousands, which may in turn lead to the death of millions. And one of the issues with this, is that any bomb that can be built now would have the explosive of more than a couple of Hiroshima's. I think that no matter how many times you watch Terminator 2, I don't believe a lot of todays generation can fully understand the horror of such an event and its long term consequences.
And as I mentioned it all depends where & who & which sky pixie they believe in. If we are lucky it might be an internal dispute, in a country which geo-politically we don't give a toss about, an attempt to draw us in.
London, New York or Rome would be very bad. London & New York because of their political, economic and cultural history. Rome because of its position as the centre of the Christian world. I'm sure revenge would be swift and sure but hopefully contained.
If its Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, things will get very bad, very quickly. The Israelis not only have their own nukes but their own independent systems of delivering them and I would have thought not much patience with regard to just making do with sanctions and a couple of normal airstrikes. If it was, shall we say, the usual suspects, I would have thought Mecca would probably be wiped from the earth like a bug from a windscreen as would the capital city of any state of any country even remotely suspected of having anything to do with it. Basically they would not piss about and it would lead to the whole of the region actually, physically going up in smoke. What this would do to the worlds oil supplies & therefore the basic resources we need to function in the western world doesn't even bear thinking about. Especially when you throw in the threat to food supplies from the spread of fallout as well.
Coming back to that lunatic at his computer screen, has anyone done any research into what effect an EMP of a limited nuclear exchange would be? Hopefully the stories of mega-servers buried deep in Switzerland by all the banks and Google are true because if London is wiped from the map like spittle off the mouth of a baby, we better have a bit more than a few USB sticks as back up for everyone's bank account.
And this is even before we get to long term psychological damage to worlds population. I would have thought whatever group of extremists are to blame, any member of the faith they claim to represent will be looking at the world through barbed wire for a very long period of time.
Pretty horrible thought really.
The Hypno-Toad said:
I think it all depends where the nuke goes off & who is responsible. Notice the way I don't say if. I firmly believe that within our lifetime there will be an act of nuclear terrorism.
As we sit in front of our computer blithely typing out posts about Arsenal or if Cliff is fiddling with kids or even if one of our members wrote a rather cracking one hit wonder, somebody else is sitting in front a screen trying to work out how to fulfil his desire to kill hundreds of thousands, which may in turn lead to the death of millions. And one of the issues with this, is that any bomb that can be built now would have the explosive of more than a couple of Hiroshima's. I think that no matter how many times you watch Terminator 2, I don't believe a lot of todays generation can fully understand the horror of such an event and its long term consequences.
And as I mentioned it all depends where & who & which sky pixie they believe in. If we are lucky it might be an internal dispute, in a country which geo-politically we don't give a toss about, an attempt to draw us in.
London, New York or Rome would be very bad. London & New York because of their political, economic and cultural history. Rome because of its position as the centre of the Christian world. I'm sure revenge would be swift and sure but hopefully contained.
If its Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, things will get very bad, very quickly. The Israelis not only have their own nukes but their own independent systems of delivering them and I would have thought not much patience with regard to just making do with sanctions and a couple of normal airstrikes. If it was, shall we say, the usual suspects, I would have thought Mecca would probably be wiped from the earth like a bug from a windscreen as would the capital city of any state of any country even remotely suspected of having anything to do with it. Basically they would not piss about and it would lead to the whole of the region actually, physically going up in smoke. What this would do to the worlds oil supplies & therefore the basic resources we need to function in the western world doesn't even bear thinking about. Especially when you throw in the threat to food supplies from the spread of fallout as well.
Coming back to that lunatic at his computer screen, has anyone done any research into what effect an EMP of a limited nuclear exchange would be? Hopefully the stories of mega-servers buried deep in Switzerland by all the banks and Google are true because if London is wiped from the map like spittle off the mouth of a baby, we better have a bit more than a few USB sticks as back up for everyone's bank account.
And this is even before we get to long term psychological damage to worlds population. I would have thought whatever group of extremists are to blame, any member of the faith they claim to represent will be looking at the world through barbed wire for a very long period of time.
..... and now here's Bob with the weather! How's it looking out there Bob?
Has someone been playing a bit too much COD? Probably not though as you'd know that Makarov was killed by Price and that as such, we're now safe.As we sit in front of our computer blithely typing out posts about Arsenal or if Cliff is fiddling with kids or even if one of our members wrote a rather cracking one hit wonder, somebody else is sitting in front a screen trying to work out how to fulfil his desire to kill hundreds of thousands, which may in turn lead to the death of millions. And one of the issues with this, is that any bomb that can be built now would have the explosive of more than a couple of Hiroshima's. I think that no matter how many times you watch Terminator 2, I don't believe a lot of todays generation can fully understand the horror of such an event and its long term consequences.
And as I mentioned it all depends where & who & which sky pixie they believe in. If we are lucky it might be an internal dispute, in a country which geo-politically we don't give a toss about, an attempt to draw us in.
London, New York or Rome would be very bad. London & New York because of their political, economic and cultural history. Rome because of its position as the centre of the Christian world. I'm sure revenge would be swift and sure but hopefully contained.
If its Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, things will get very bad, very quickly. The Israelis not only have their own nukes but their own independent systems of delivering them and I would have thought not much patience with regard to just making do with sanctions and a couple of normal airstrikes. If it was, shall we say, the usual suspects, I would have thought Mecca would probably be wiped from the earth like a bug from a windscreen as would the capital city of any state of any country even remotely suspected of having anything to do with it. Basically they would not piss about and it would lead to the whole of the region actually, physically going up in smoke. What this would do to the worlds oil supplies & therefore the basic resources we need to function in the western world doesn't even bear thinking about. Especially when you throw in the threat to food supplies from the spread of fallout as well.
Coming back to that lunatic at his computer screen, has anyone done any research into what effect an EMP of a limited nuclear exchange would be? Hopefully the stories of mega-servers buried deep in Switzerland by all the banks and Google are true because if London is wiped from the map like spittle off the mouth of a baby, we better have a bit more than a few USB sticks as back up for everyone's bank account.
And this is even before we get to long term psychological damage to worlds population. I would have thought whatever group of extremists are to blame, any member of the faith they claim to represent will be looking at the world through barbed wire for a very long period of time.
..... and now here's Bob with the weather! How's it looking out there Bob?
MrBarry123 said:
Has someone been playing a bit too much COD? Probably not though as you'd know that Makarov was killed by Price and that as such, we're now safe.
Sorry but I'm not twelve so I have had to google to find out what you talking about. In the meantime I suggest you watch Threads to find out what might happen to you and your family when it all goes mushroom shaped. Because when it does the decision to buy either Xbox or Playstation maybe replaced with picking where to bury your kids so they don't infect the water supply.
The bit of the UK that I will be looking at will be black and damp and inhabited by worms. I have NO doubt that my grandkids (assuming my kids think overpopulating the planet is a good idea) will have been brought up with morals and will be kind and generous and honest and will be saving the planet with their inventions.
Technology will be a major factor in what life is like. Who would have thought 50 years ago that nearly everyone would end up spouting trivial minutia on facebook and twitter, constantly glued to smart phone, etc. Hopefully this kind of BS will have been rejected in favour of more personal communication.
The Hypno-Toad said:
I think it all depends where the nuke goes off & who is responsible. Notice the way I don't say if. I firmly believe that within our lifetime there will be an act of nuclear terrorism.
As we sit in front of our computer blithely typing out posts about Arsenal or if Cliff is fiddling with kids or even if one of our members wrote a rather cracking one hit wonder, somebody else is sitting in front a screen trying to work out how to fulfil his desire to kill hundreds of thousands, which may in turn lead to the death of millions. And one of the issues with this, is that any bomb that can be built now would have the explosive of more than a couple of Hiroshima's. I think that no matter how many times you watch Terminator 2, I don't believe a lot of todays generation can fully understand the horror of such an event and its long term consequences.
And as I mentioned it all depends where & who & which sky pixie they believe in. If we are lucky it might be an internal dispute, in a country which geo-politically we don't give a toss about, an attempt to draw us in.
London, New York or Rome would be very bad. London & New York because of their political, economic and cultural history. Rome because of its position as the centre of the Christian world. I'm sure revenge would be swift and sure but hopefully contained.
If its Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, things will get very bad, very quickly. The Israelis not only have their own nukes but their own independent systems of delivering them and I would have thought not much patience with regard to just making do with sanctions and a couple of normal airstrikes. If it was, shall we say, the usual suspects, I would have thought Mecca would probably be wiped from the earth like a bug from a windscreen as would the capital city of any state of any country even remotely suspected of having anything to do with it. Basically they would not piss about and it would lead to the whole of the region actually, physically going up in smoke. What this would do to the worlds oil supplies & therefore the basic resources we need to function in the western world doesn't even bear thinking about. Especially when you throw in the threat to food supplies from the spread of fallout as well.
Coming back to that lunatic at his computer screen, has anyone done any research into what effect an EMP of a limited nuclear exchange would be? Hopefully the stories of mega-servers buried deep in Switzerland by all the banks and Google are true because if London is wiped from the map like spittle off the mouth of a baby, we better have a bit more than a few USB sticks as back up for everyone's bank account.
And this is even before we get to long term psychological damage to worlds population. I would have thought whatever group of extremists are to blame, any member of the faith they claim to represent will be looking at the world through barbed wire for a very long period of time.
..... and now here's Bob with the weather! How's it looking out there Bob?
Brilliant post and perfect sign-off. As we sit in front of our computer blithely typing out posts about Arsenal or if Cliff is fiddling with kids or even if one of our members wrote a rather cracking one hit wonder, somebody else is sitting in front a screen trying to work out how to fulfil his desire to kill hundreds of thousands, which may in turn lead to the death of millions. And one of the issues with this, is that any bomb that can be built now would have the explosive of more than a couple of Hiroshima's. I think that no matter how many times you watch Terminator 2, I don't believe a lot of todays generation can fully understand the horror of such an event and its long term consequences.
And as I mentioned it all depends where & who & which sky pixie they believe in. If we are lucky it might be an internal dispute, in a country which geo-politically we don't give a toss about, an attempt to draw us in.
London, New York or Rome would be very bad. London & New York because of their political, economic and cultural history. Rome because of its position as the centre of the Christian world. I'm sure revenge would be swift and sure but hopefully contained.
If its Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, things will get very bad, very quickly. The Israelis not only have their own nukes but their own independent systems of delivering them and I would have thought not much patience with regard to just making do with sanctions and a couple of normal airstrikes. If it was, shall we say, the usual suspects, I would have thought Mecca would probably be wiped from the earth like a bug from a windscreen as would the capital city of any state of any country even remotely suspected of having anything to do with it. Basically they would not piss about and it would lead to the whole of the region actually, physically going up in smoke. What this would do to the worlds oil supplies & therefore the basic resources we need to function in the western world doesn't even bear thinking about. Especially when you throw in the threat to food supplies from the spread of fallout as well.
Coming back to that lunatic at his computer screen, has anyone done any research into what effect an EMP of a limited nuclear exchange would be? Hopefully the stories of mega-servers buried deep in Switzerland by all the banks and Google are true because if London is wiped from the map like spittle off the mouth of a baby, we better have a bit more than a few USB sticks as back up for everyone's bank account.
And this is even before we get to long term psychological damage to worlds population. I would have thought whatever group of extremists are to blame, any member of the faith they claim to represent will be looking at the world through barbed wire for a very long period of time.
..... and now here's Bob with the weather! How's it looking out there Bob?
EU immigration isn't a problem whatsoever. The only long term legacy of current European immigration to the UK will be your Grandchildren's friend list on the future Facebook will have kids who more or less look like your grandkids and who will sound and think exactly like your grandchildren but will have funny surnames.
My dad's family came over from Italy and settled in Scotland. He moved to Northern Ireland and then back Scotland. My Mum was Irish. I lived in Northern Ireland till I was 14, moved to Scotland then in my late 20s lived in the North of England then London moved back to another part of North England before finaly settling back in Scotland. I think and sound more like a Scot than anything else. If it wasn't for the fact my name is Tannido Baldheadio rather than Tangus McBaldhead, my eyes are brown and my bald head tans so beautifully you'd not know I was the spawn of garlic, pasta, and potato munching wreckers of all that is good and British.
My dad's family came over from Italy and settled in Scotland. He moved to Northern Ireland and then back Scotland. My Mum was Irish. I lived in Northern Ireland till I was 14, moved to Scotland then in my late 20s lived in the North of England then London moved back to another part of North England before finaly settling back in Scotland. I think and sound more like a Scot than anything else. If it wasn't for the fact my name is Tannido Baldheadio rather than Tangus McBaldhead, my eyes are brown and my bald head tans so beautifully you'd not know I was the spawn of garlic, pasta, and potato munching wreckers of all that is good and British.
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