So what do we think the UK will be like in 50yrs from now?

[otolith]

I think the reality is somewhere between the "Islamists are hiding under your bed with big knives" and "Life is a lovely Benetton poster" views of the world.

[jimbop1]

Bisonhead said:

What is there to worry about? I find it highly unlikely that Sharia law will ever be adopted here. I find it highly unlikely that the majority of the population is ever going to be muslim. Why worry so much about something that hasnt, and probably wont, happen? Get on with your life, stop living in fear

Why is it always classed as racist whenever someone tries to stick up for their country?

So without sounding racist, which I am not, maybe you should look in to who the minority is in London... Our very own capital city.

[WinstonWolf]

Bisonhead said:

WinstonWolf said:

Bisonhead said:

The 'anti-islam' stance on here in recent months is really quite shocking. I expect as much on NP&E where most posters are narrow minded, xenophobic idiots but not the lounge. Puts me off reading a lot of threads as I just dont get people who live in such fear of change whilst not bothering to learn anything about it. Some people have never heard of humanity/civilisation by the sound of it.

Grow up!

yeah, Islam seems to be a bit behind the times on that one, by about 300 years.

What is there to worry about? I find it highly unlikely that Sharia law will ever be adopted here. I find it highly unlikely that the majority of the population is ever going to be muslim. Why worry so much about something that hasnt, and probably wont, happen? Get on with your life, stop living in fear

It's not fear, it's an opinion. The radical Islam bunch (not the majority) seem to be awfully shouty don't you think? They're certainly doing noting to foster multi-culturalism in a generally tolerant society.

There is no god, they need to deal with it and join the rest of us in the twenty first century.

[otolith]

jimbop1 said:

So without sounding racist, which I am not, maybe you should look in to who the minority is in London... Our very own capital city.

The largest minority is white British.

[anonymous-user]

jimbop1 said:

So without sounding racist, which I am not, maybe you should look in to who the minority is in London... Our very own capital city.

Go on...

[jimbop1]

Symbolica said:

Go on...

White British.

[Harry Flashman]

jimbop1 said:

Why is it always classed as racist whenever someone tries to stick up for their country?

So without sounding racist, which I am not, maybe you should look in to who the minority is in London... Our very own capital city.

Er, the minorities in London are...ethnic monorities. Not, as you seem to be implying (completely incorrectly) white people.

"59.8 per cent of the 8,173,941 inhabitants of London were White, with 44.9 per cent White British, 2.2 per cent White Irish, 0.1 per cent Irish traveller and 12.1 per cent classified as Other White.

20.9 per cent of Londoners are of Asian and mixed-Asian descent. 19.7 per cent of Londoners are of full Asian descent, with those of mixed-Asian heritage comprising 1.2 of the population. Indians account for 6.6 per cent of the population, followed by Pakistanis and Bangladeshis at 2.7 per cent each. Chinese peoples account for 1.5 per cent of the population, with Arabs comprising 1.3 per cent. A further 4.9 per cent of Londoners are classified as "Other Asian".

15.6 per cent of London's population are of Black and mixed-Black descent. 13.3 per cent of Londoners are of full Black descent, with those of mixed-Black heritage comprising 2.3 per cent of the population. Black Africans account for 7.0 per cent of London's population, with 4.2 per cent as Black Caribbean and 2.1 per cent as "Other Black".

5.0 per cent of Londoners are of mixed race."

[Harry Flashman]

jimbop, I hope you feel a little bit, well, foolish, now.

[otolith]

Of course, no one ethnic group is a majority, and White British is about twice the size of the next largest. Most people (sixty odd percent) were born in the UK.

[anonymous-user]

jimbop1 said:

Symbolica said:

Go on...

White British.

But if about 63% in London were born in the UK and just under 60% were white then it's worth asking, what is the actual group that you take issue with? Is it non-British people, or non-white people?

[jimbop1]

"White British people are now in a minority in London for the first time, it emerged today as census data revealed that the immigrant population of England and Wales went up by 3million over the past decade.

Just 3.7million Londoners described their ethnicity as 'White British' in 2011 - down from 4.3million in 2001, and making up 44.9 per cent of the city's population.

It is believed to be the first time that British whites have become a minority in any region of the UK."

Not my words.

And Symboloca I take no issue with any group.

[ManFromDelmonte]

jimbop1 said:

"White British people are now in a minority in London for the first time, it emerged today as census data revealed that the immigrant population of England and Wales went up by 3million over the past decade.

Just 3.7million Londoners described their ethnicity as 'White British' in 2011 - down from 4.3million in 2001, and making up 44.9 per cent of the city's population.

It is believed to be the first time that British whites have become a minority in any region of the UK."

Not my words.

What about this is a problem?

[otolith]

I suppose whether that is a problem depends on whether when you say "our very own capital city" the "us" that you are talking about is British people or just whites.

[jimbop1]

Ok, why should I care about my country.

How disgusting of me. I hope no one was offended by my extreme, racist posts.

[Blib]

jimbop1 said:

"White British people are now in a minority in London for the first time, it emerged today as census data revealed that the immigrant population of England and Wales went up by 3million over the past decade.

Just 3.7million Londoners described their ethnicity as 'White British' in 2011 - down from 4.3million in 2001, and making up 44.9 per cent of the city's population.

It is believed to be the first time that British whites have become a minority in any region of the UK."

Not my words.

And Symboloca I take no issue with any group.

"White British"? What does this truly mean? We are a mongrel race.

I'm a born and bred Londoner. My home city has welcomed people from other countries for centuries. This is why it is, without doubt, the greatest city on the planet.

The vast majority of folk in this city do not give a damn where you come from, what colour you are or which deity, if any, you worship.

We just do not care. It is not an issue.

[wolves_wanderer]

ST270 said:

Fotic said:

Hooli said:

The UK will no longer be Great Britain, it'll be a muslim extremist hell hole.

Another PH nutter.

why is he a nutter? We already have extremists in Britain they are the recruiters for the training camps! There were reports just last week that young muslims have been recruited from the midlands. If people can be brainwashed by these beliefs to such an extent that allow themselves to be recruited for terrorism, then is it not conceivable that one day Britain could have this to deal with?

If you genuinely think that this country will become a "Muslim extremist hell hole" then you are both an idiot and a coward. An idiot for thinking it is even possible and a coward for [in your crazy dystopian future vision] letting it happen.

[ManFromDelmonte]

jimbop1 said:

Ok, why should I care about my country.

How disgusting of me. I hope no one was offended by my extreme, racist posts.

I'm not sure I agree that caring about your country is the same as wanting it to be inhabited by white British.

I'm sure the Walt Disney Company care about Disneyland but probably aren't that bothered that not many of its inhabitants were born there.

Edited by ManFromDelmonte on Monday 18th August 16:54

[Bisonhead]

jimbop1 said:

Bisonhead said:

What is there to worry about? I find it highly unlikely that Sharia law will ever be adopted here. I find it highly unlikely that the majority of the population is ever going to be muslim. Why worry so much about something that hasnt, and probably wont, happen? Get on with your life, stop living in fear

Why is it always classed as racist whenever someone tries to stick up for their country?

So without sounding racist, which I am not, maybe you should look in to who the minority is in London... Our very own capital city.

Didnt say that it was racist

[Fotic]

jimbop1 said:

Ok, why should I care about my country.

How disgusting of me. I hope no one was offended by my extreme, racist posts.

I care about my country and I worry about my children having to mix with people like you in it who are too insensible to understand things.

[Bisonhead]

WinstonWolf said:

Bisonhead said:

WinstonWolf said:

Bisonhead said:

The 'anti-islam' stance on here in recent months is really quite shocking. I expect as much on NP&E where most posters are narrow minded, xenophobic idiots but not the lounge. Puts me off reading a lot of threads as I just dont get people who live in such fear of change whilst not bothering to learn anything about it. Some people have never heard of humanity/civilisation by the sound of it.

Grow up!

yeah, Islam seems to be a bit behind the times on that one, by about 300 years.

What is there to worry about? I find it highly unlikely that Sharia law will ever be adopted here. I find it highly unlikely that the majority of the population is ever going to be muslim. Why worry so much about something that hasnt, and probably wont, happen? Get on with your life, stop living in fear

It's not fear, it's an opinion. The radical Islam bunch (not the majority) seem to be awfully shouty don't you think? They're certainly doing noting to foster multi-culturalism in a generally tolerant society.

There is no god, they need to deal with it and join the rest of us in the twenty first century.

I agree, the shouty minority are indeed shouty. I just cant see them doing any real or actual damage...even if they escalate their campaigns. They will eventually be shouted down.

It doesnt matter if you believe there is a god or not. IT is what they believe and we, as the open minded nation, need to accept that...just as we do with the christians et al