So what do we think the UK will be like in 50yrs from now?
Discussion
jimbop1 said:
Symbolica said:
Go on...
White British.That's before we even get to all of those people who are not white!
It's a struggle to work up the courage to walk out of the house in the morning.
I appreciate everyone has their own opinion
And being relativley young at 40yrs old!, but even in my lifetime i have seen lots of changes.
Most has been progress.
But i feel people need to go out and see different areas, as im all for different cultures etc.
But i find that lots of areas have pockets of people from different cultures, wherby they have no intention of changing to intergrate. They seem to want everyone around them to change to allow for their culture / religion whatever it may be.
Judging by many people response i can only guess that they base their liberal views on their experiances with the many who come here and have succesfully intergrated. Or are second or third generation etc
Whereas their are huge numbers that make no effort to intergrate.
Im happy enough for the progression of laws and other bits and pieces, but dont feel i should fundamentaly change my family and my own way of life , to allow for others that show no intrest in this country as it stands.
Overall i dont see the country heading in a positive direct, and the sooner everyone accepts we are not a happy clappy loving mix of cultures the better.
As the cold hard truth is not everyone gets on in life, as demonstrated by people of the same culture , never mind those that may not share common intrests.
Their are more than enough people coming here that have and are willing to fit in! as such. But its the rest that are and will cause more alienation between the different segments of society.
Aside from this, their is what i feel is a sub class of white british non and working class (usual on the side whilst claiming) that are also dragging us down. The Jeremy Kyle set are a one way valve, stripping what they can from society. The sooner measures are taken to prevent this and instill better values so that the Kids having Kids brigade pass on a better attitude. we will all benefit
And being relativley young at 40yrs old!, but even in my lifetime i have seen lots of changes.
Most has been progress.
But i feel people need to go out and see different areas, as im all for different cultures etc.
But i find that lots of areas have pockets of people from different cultures, wherby they have no intention of changing to intergrate. They seem to want everyone around them to change to allow for their culture / religion whatever it may be.
Judging by many people response i can only guess that they base their liberal views on their experiances with the many who come here and have succesfully intergrated. Or are second or third generation etc
Whereas their are huge numbers that make no effort to intergrate.
Im happy enough for the progression of laws and other bits and pieces, but dont feel i should fundamentaly change my family and my own way of life , to allow for others that show no intrest in this country as it stands.
Overall i dont see the country heading in a positive direct, and the sooner everyone accepts we are not a happy clappy loving mix of cultures the better.
As the cold hard truth is not everyone gets on in life, as demonstrated by people of the same culture , never mind those that may not share common intrests.
Their are more than enough people coming here that have and are willing to fit in! as such. But its the rest that are and will cause more alienation between the different segments of society.
Aside from this, their is what i feel is a sub class of white british non and working class (usual on the side whilst claiming) that are also dragging us down. The Jeremy Kyle set are a one way valve, stripping what they can from society. The sooner measures are taken to prevent this and instill better values so that the Kids having Kids brigade pass on a better attitude. we will all benefit
mikebradford said:
Im happy enough for the progression of laws and other bits and pieces, but dont feel i should fundamentaly change my family and my own way of life , to allow for others that show no intrest in this country as it stands.
OK, mike, give us one example of how you have been forced to change your life because of immigration.(going for a curry on a Friday night doesn't count)
You live in Skipton for Heaven's sake. Apart from the odd curry house, there's hardly a brown face to be seen. Yes, there are Pakistanis in Keighley and Bingley now (there were none when I was growing up), but Skipton?
Edited by Zod on Monday 18th August 17:15
Zod said:
Im happy enough for the progression of laws and other bits and pieces, but dont feel i should fundamentaly change my family and my own way of life , to allow for others that show no intrest in this country as it stands.
OK, mike, give us one example of how you have been forced to change your life because of immigration.
(going for a curry on a Friday night doesn't count)
On simple terms immigration i have no issue withOK, mike, give us one example of how you have been forced to change your life because of immigration.
(going for a curry on a Friday night doesn't count)
econimic migration i do, and the invisible effect on the pound in my pocket and the value of it does
Immigration has an effect on me daily, from the so called housing shortage. Through to class numbers in schools etc
The fact i moved from an area to another so that my kids could be brought up and school in what i feel is a better area
all stemming from seeing the last few years of my own schooling, go from normal. to having buses of children from the inner city and of a different ethinic background start (due to school policy ) coming to the school i went to.
made if funny having running battles after school so i could just get to the end of the street and walk home.
the then regular police patrols turning up to allow us to walk out safely. and from a different perspective, them walk out safely
to the first time i had a fight in school and the first thing out of the teachers mouth was, was this a a racist attack lol
sometimes race doesnt come into it. having to sit opposit a prat in physics does!
especially when he came round to my side of the table to take a swing at me. the fact he missed and he got a slap back makes it laughable that it was me that got sent to the headmaster
So you could argue immigration and its effects have moulded my perspective
But im certainly not against immigration. just feel like many things in life it needs to be controlled.
As i have many muslim friends, who i get on with a lot more than the majority of so called White people i would happily never see again.
Edited by mikebradford on Monday 18th August 17:24
While I am sure the country won't turn into a 3rd world muslamic s
thole overnight, am I the only person who finds the way we've turned a blind eye to what happened recently in Tower Hamlets extremely worrying? You don't need a majority if you have a pack of postal votes stuffed down your pants!
No, the country does face some difficulties in the near future though; Trust me on this one. People who are in their 20's today will retire without a pot to piss in because of the following:
1) Having to buy a useless, worthless degree to be even considered for a role that doesn't involve the words "Do you want fries with that?". You start life with a £30-40k loan meaning you're effectively on 40% tax as soon as you get a job that pays a reasonable living wage.
2) Preposterous house prices meaning that more won't be able to buy at all.
3) Ending of defined benefit pensions. The amount you need to put away makes new-for-old money pensions useless.
4) The three points above compounded by wage erosion due to importing cheap labor from overseas or just exporting the jobs.
Who's going to pay for their retirement?
Power and water demands as the population grows are a problem too as we've simply left it too long now. We should have been building power stations 10 years ago. Instead we're closing them down.
thole overnight, am I the only person who finds the way we've turned a blind eye to what happened recently in Tower Hamlets extremely worrying? You don't need a majority if you have a pack of postal votes stuffed down your pants!No, the country does face some difficulties in the near future though; Trust me on this one. People who are in their 20's today will retire without a pot to piss in because of the following:
1) Having to buy a useless, worthless degree to be even considered for a role that doesn't involve the words "Do you want fries with that?". You start life with a £30-40k loan meaning you're effectively on 40% tax as soon as you get a job that pays a reasonable living wage.
2) Preposterous house prices meaning that more won't be able to buy at all.
3) Ending of defined benefit pensions. The amount you need to put away makes new-for-old money pensions useless.
4) The three points above compounded by wage erosion due to importing cheap labor from overseas or just exporting the jobs.
Who's going to pay for their retirement?
Power and water demands as the population grows are a problem too as we've simply left it too long now. We should have been building power stations 10 years ago. Instead we're closing them down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24813467
And the three most important extracts from it:
1. Those from the European Economic Area (EEA - the EU plus Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein)... in the decade up to 2011, contributing 34% more in taxes than they received in benefits.
2. Immigrants from outside the EEA contributed 2% more in taxes than they received in the same period, the report showed.
3. Over the same period, British people paid 11% less in tax than they received.
ETA: Evidence of benefit tourism being alive and well. It's just not from abroad but from one's White British house to the Jobcentre.
And the three most important extracts from it:
1. Those from the European Economic Area (EEA - the EU plus Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein)... in the decade up to 2011, contributing 34% more in taxes than they received in benefits.
2. Immigrants from outside the EEA contributed 2% more in taxes than they received in the same period, the report showed.
3. Over the same period, British people paid 11% less in tax than they received.
ETA: Evidence of benefit tourism being alive and well. It's just not from abroad but from one's White British house to the Jobcentre.
Edited by MrBarry123 on Monday 18th August 18:20
- Diesel Particulates will be classified as 2 of your 5-a-day.
- Hybrid Wind and Gas farms will be paired up with dairy and cattle farms.
- 90% of Car accident claims will be filed against Microoglezon (the merger in 20 years time of Microsoft, Google and Amazon), the makers of the driverless car software.
- Cranial SIM card implants will be an option in the maternity wing in hospital, connect your kids straight to the Internet from birth, so you can get branding investment from the suppliers to get them through college, as the fees will be more extortionate than today (changing supplier and plans might be a problem)
- Speed of development in new car technology will be going at such a pace, that your 1 year old car is classified as a classic
- The concept of Great Granny wings will be a must have option for family homes, as the old dears (that'll be us then!) will be living so much longer
- Every year in June the European Countries will hold a remembrance day for Ibiza (a bit like Thanksgiving in the US), as the island that shattered into dust and became the modern day Atlantis, after the Opening Club Parties in 2025 unfortunately played the same song at exactly the same time all across the island, thus creating an unstoppable sonic boom that obliterated the island of Ibiza from the Map.
bridgland said:
* Diesel Particulates will be classified as 2 of your 5-a-day.
I'm guessing you never got marked down at school for having a lack of imagination? - Hybrid Wind and Gas farms will be paired up with dairy and cattle farms.
- 90% of Car accident claims will be filed against Microoglezon (the merger in 20 years time of Microsoft, Google and Amazon), the makers of the driverless car software.
- Cranial SIM card implants will be an option in the maternity wing in hospital, connect your kids straight to the Internet from birth, so you can get branding investment from the suppliers to get them through college, as the fees will be more extortionate than today (changing supplier and plans might be a problem)
- Speed of development in new car technology will be going at such a pace, that your 1 year old car is classified as a classic
- The concept of Great Granny wings will be a must have option for family homes, as the old dears (that'll be us then!) will be living so much longer
- Every year in June the European Countries will hold a remembrance day for Ibiza (a bit like Thanksgiving in the US), as the island that shattered into dust and became the modern day Atlantis, after the Opening Club Parties in 2025 unfortunately played the same song at exactly the same time all across the island, thus creating an unstoppable sonic boom that obliterated the island of Ibiza from the Map.
Why is it that every time a white person speak out, it is immediately called racist? Most of my best friends aren't white, they still prefer their own, but I don't call them racist. Just we get along fine. Most of the time it's do gooding whites who shout racist. I don't mind the non white people, but I just wish they would respect our laws, our culture, and try to integrate. Ghettos should be banned. Street signs should be written in English. English should be the first language of everyone born here. No new religious buildings should be allowed for any religion. Integrate, or get out. If you don't like it here... Leave.
MrBarry123 said:
bridgland said:
* Diesel Particulates will be classified as 2 of your 5-a-day.
I'm guessing you never got marked down at school for having a lack of imagination? - Hybrid Wind and Gas farms will be paired up with dairy and cattle farms.
- 90% of Car accident claims will be filed against Microoglezon (the merger in 20 years time of Microsoft, Google and Amazon), the makers of the driverless car software.
- Cranial SIM card implants will be an option in the maternity wing in hospital, connect your kids straight to the Internet from birth, so you can get branding investment from the suppliers to get them through college, as the fees will be more extortionate than today (changing supplier and plans might be a problem)
- Speed of development in new car technology will be going at such a pace, that your 1 year old car is classified as a classic
- The concept of Great Granny wings will be a must have option for family homes, as the old dears (that'll be us then!) will be living so much longer
- Every year in June the European Countries will hold a remembrance day for Ibiza (a bit like Thanksgiving in the US), as the island that shattered into dust and became the modern day Atlantis, after the Opening Club Parties in 2025 unfortunately played the same song at exactly the same time all across the island, thus creating an unstoppable sonic boom that obliterated the island of Ibiza from the Map.
HertsBiker said:
Why is it that every time a white person speak out, it is immediately called racist? Most of my best friends aren't white, they still prefer their own, but I don't call them racist. Just we get along fine. Most of the time it's do gooding whites who shout racist. I don't mind the non white people, but I just wish they would respect our laws, our culture, and try to integrate. Ghettos should be banned. Street signs should be written in English. English should be the first language of everyone born here. No new religious buildings should be allowed for any religion. Integrate, or get out. If you don't like it here... Leave.
Totally agree. Sadly the deluded amongst us will soon be along to shout racist.These people do more harm to this country than anyone else. Sad times.
ATG said:
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&a...
Based on identifying current trends and then trying to extrapolate them.
Just lost a chunk of time skimming most of that and reading some parts in-depth. Thanks - very interesting.Based on identifying current trends and then trying to extrapolate them.
(I love future studies.)
croyde said:
I predict that the Snickers bar will go back to being called Marathon.
....and they'll be even smaller!I read somewhere that each past generation think things are getting worse but in reality with every generation, we get wealthier, healthier, better educated and live longer.
jimbop1 said:
HertsBiker said:
Why is it that every time a white person speak out, it is immediately called racist? Most of my best friends aren't white, they still prefer their own, but I don't call them racist. Just we get along fine. Most of the time it's do gooding whites who shout racist. I don't mind the non white people, but I just wish they would respect our laws, our culture, and try to integrate. Ghettos should be banned. Street signs should be written in English. English should be the first language of everyone born here. No new religious buildings should be allowed for any religion. Integrate, or get out. If you don't like it here... Leave.
Totally agree. Sadly the deluded amongst us will soon be along to shout racist.These people do more harm to this country than anyone else. Sad times.
I'm certainly not saying people shouldn't integrate when they come here, but to say the place is going to turn into an extremist muslim state is nonsense.
Also a question, what about those British parts of Spain for example? You better go and protest there, because British people are some of the worse nationalities in the world for integrating when abroad (said as a British person who is abroad and stealing johhnie foreigner's job and ripping off the country by paying 44% tax or so - you know, like many of the immigrants in the UK,
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