Gumtree sale, buyer wants to use Paypal

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Riknos said:

Funk said:

If possible, always transact face to face and in cash. It's the safest way. If selling on eBay and accepting PayPal, assume that you've lost the item and money - when the money stays in your account, consider it a nice surprise.

Basically eBay and PayPal are terrible and there's a very high risk you'll get shafted.

This is a LITTLE bit of an exaggeration...

I've sold dozens of items on ebay and only ever had one issue - a guy bought an xbox controller off me that had some damage, and he decided the damage was worse than I said, but he couldn't prove it as he had replaced the damaged parts, and wanted a partial refund off ebay... the dispute went on and in the end I got to keep the money and paypal refunded him... Annoyed, but I wasn't out of pocket.

riknoss.

you have missed the point. this is not through ebay, through paypal only.

there is no easy way to raise issues, or request money back. it is just a payment service.

[Adam B]

Funk said:

Keep proof of postage for 6 months after the sale, a transaction can now be reversed by the buyer up to 180 days later (I fear many people are going to get fked by this new rule).

I thought a buyer had 30 days to appeal for ebay items?

Funk said:

You must accept returns and cover the cost if you're selling on eBay.

Woah - is that a new condition? The seller has to cover the buyer's cost of returning the item? WTF if so.

I generally find ebay/paypal ok though I keep my Spidey senses alert, only been scammed once for about £25 many years ago due to my own stupidity and not knowing the rules.

One of the beauties of ebay is it opens you up to many buyers, cash on collection is not practical for sub £50 stuff

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Adam B said:

Funk said:

Keep proof of postage for 6 months after the sale, a transaction can now be reversed by the buyer up to 180 days later (I fear many people are going to get fked by this new rule).

I thought a buyer had 30 days to appeal for ebay items?

Funk said:

You must accept returns and cover the cost if you're selling on eBay.

Woah - is that a new condition? The seller has to cover the buyer's cost of returning the item? WTF if so.

I generally find ebay/paypal ok though I keep my Spidey senses alert, only been scammed once for about £25 many years ago due to my own stupidity and not knowing the rules.

One of the beauties of ebay is it opens you up to many buyers, cash on collection is not practical for sub £50 stuff

THIS IS NOT ABOUT EBAY!!!

[dugsud]

Gareth79 said:

dugsud said:

If a buyer pays by PP and collects you MUST get a photocopy of his passport + one other form of ID)

I'm not sure I would ever allow payment by PayPal and then collection in person. I think even having a copy of their passport won't actually prevent a reversal/chargeback, but (assuming it's genuine) is ID to show to the police? You then still need to get the police to take interest, which I think for anything less than larger four figures is tricky?

PayPal told me I would have been covered by their seller protection if I had conformed to the aforementioned checks.

Police are useless with anything on-line or they were 5 years ago. I had to explain to the investigating officer what PayPal was!

[DuraAce]

Is accepting a PayPal payment as a gift OK?

Is that safe from charge backs and dodgy accounts or would you still stay clear?

[CoolHands]

paypal gift is safe for you as the receiver, it is the sender that has no protection.

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DuraAce said:

Is accepting a PayPal payment as a gift OK?

Is that safe from charge backs and dodgy accounts or would you still stay clear?

Without a tracking number the money can be reversed if the buyer claims "unauthorised payment".