Is this guy's brain wired differently?

Is this guy's brain wired differently?

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Hackney

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6,839 posts

208 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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that bloke has been climbing again

Of course there's skill in this: balance, technique etc. but ultimately does he have (or lack) the part of the brain that says "what if?"
But even if I made it to the top of the crane I wouldn't be able to casually stroll across the arm (?) of it one handed.
I certainly wouldn't get to the end and hang from it..... then let go with one hand!

Could you be *so* sure that you've got a good grip, that your hand isn't just too dusty / sweaty, that the crane doesn't have a spot of oil that you didn't notice?

Highly skilled or just plain mental?

ETA I saw the tv programme where he got back from Ukraine and he went to see his mum, maybe he still lived there. I also couldn't put my loved ones through what his poor mum goes through. And yes, I know there are dangerous sports and extreme passtimes etc. But there's a big difference between F1 and hanging from a crane by your fingers.

Edited by Hackney on Wednesday 20th August 13:22

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Hackney said:
Highly skilled or just plain mental?
Not mutually exclusive; both.

TheJimi

24,977 posts

243 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I could do all that, except for the bit at the beginning where he's running and jumping between concrete sections - I couldn't do that and would end up falling and injuring myself, but the climbing, hanging on one hand etc, yep.

I'd want my chalk bag with me tho.


P-Jay

10,564 posts

191 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Yep - both, although in my experience total confidence can make up for a lack of practice / skill in some respect.

I saw the same TV show, he's certainly driven - I seem to recall his Mum was a bit 'odd' herself and think might have caused his agoraphobia- his free climbing seems to be his way of coping with that - unlike the Ukrainian guy who was more a pure thrill seeker / show off.

I put him in the same category as say Travis Pastrana, if you get past the 'Redbull imagine' he's really a shy, geeky guy who copes with this issues by scaring himself silly doping stunts, he loves the thrill at the time - but gets a sort of delayed fear, meaning he suffers terrible night terrors after the fact.

CedGTV

2,538 posts

254 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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TheJimi said:
I could do all that, except for the bit at the beginning where he's running and jumping between concrete sections - I couldn't do that and would end up falling and injuring myself,
All i can think about is what the pain would feel like when skinning your shins on those concrete starter walls.........wincing right now.....

PulsatingStar

1,715 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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There isnt a lot of skill there, I could do all the climbing bits physically with ease. It would just be balls that held me back and he certainly has those.

There are loads of free climbers out there though doing more impressive climbing without the same sort of attention grabbing.

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

183 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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James is a friend of mine and I can ensure you that there is a lot of skill involved in what he does! The 'hanging from bits' part of it, yeah, people with decent upper body strength could do it, but the conditioning it takes to do the associated stuff (and the free running he does) is just insane.

I have never met anyone else that can do the stuff he does with his body (oo err) and it is solely down to his love for what he does and the fact that he dedicates full-time-job hours to making sure he is good enough to do what he does.

Is he wired differently? Possibly. Is he mental? Definitely. But the enjoyment he gets out of it far surpasses anything that anyone else I know gets from their hobbies!

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Jonboy_t said:
James is a friend of mine
In that case, could you ask him a question? Did he go up the bridge planning to do a somersault on top of it, or did the huge number of graffiti tags on top of it when he got there make him think the video would be a bit mundane if he didn't add something else to it? smile

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

183 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Kermit power said:
Jonboy_t said:
James is a friend of mine
In that case, could you ask him a question? Did he go up the bridge planning to do a somersault on top of it, or did the huge number of graffiti tags on top of it when he got there make him think the video would be a bit mundane if he didn't add something else to it? smile
Kind of both smile The guy he went to see was, in his own words, 'fking mental'. Being a bit of a control freak (understandably so, being that high up), this bloke was trying to push him into doing things he didn't feel comfortable doing, so the backflip was a bit of a pacifier to shut him up for a bit, but he did go up there with the intention of doing 'something'. Not sure what though smile

Otispunkmeyer

12,586 posts

155 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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TheJimi said:
I could do all that, except for the bit at the beginning where he's running and jumping between concrete sections - I couldn't do that and would end up falling and injuring myself, but the climbing, hanging on one hand etc, yep.

I'd want my chalk bag with me tho.
Amazing judgement of distance and necessary jumping power to make it. He landed all those cock-on.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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There's definately some extreme confidence in his abilities. I do wonder if people like him and Alex Honold (or Fred Dibnah for that matter) are wired differently, or simply have a massively unshakable confidence. I'm quite confident doing scrambles high up without ropes (Crib Goch and the likes) - but steeper, harder things I wont do without ropes. My confidence only goes so far, then the fear sets in.

So I wonder if they're the same as me, but their "confidence vs fear" level is simply miles higher. Or if there is actually something quite different in their brain.

Oh, here's a direct link without the ad: http://www.epictv.com/media/podcast/james-kingston...

Davey S2

13,092 posts

254 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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PulsatingStar said:
There isnt a lot of skill there, I could do all the climbing bits physically with ease.
Exactly. Anyone could walk along a foot wide beam easily if it was 6 inches off the ground. Put it several hundred feet up though and it becomes a different proposition.

digger the goat

2,817 posts

145 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Doesn't seem particularly difficult to me...

I used to climb this freehold 20 years ago !



I was coasteering before it called this !!

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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CrutyRammers said:
I'm quite confident doing scrambles high up without ropes (Crib Goch)
Meh. You can cycle along that!wink

I've only crossed Crib Goch once, with visibility of about 20 feet tops through the fog (a superlatively well planned TA escapade), but 20 minutes later, looking back from the summit after the fog had cleared, I was quite glad it had been there on the way up!

Striding Edge in the snow with Air Cadets was another interesting experience which I suspect wouldn't be allowed these days. frown

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Bloody hell, I get sweaty palms just watching the video.

I'm fine with rock climbing when ropes are involved, even a spot of bouldering without ropes but you certainly won't catch me sat on the end of a crane let alone hanging off it 1 handed!

cossy400

3,161 posts

184 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Im not good with heights anyway, but fk me I felt positively sick watchin that.

Fair play to the bloke thou, if that's what you want to do.

Me quite happy on ground zero lol

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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digger the goat said:
Doesn't seem particularly difficult to me...

I used to climb this freehold 20 years ago !



I was coasteering before it called this !!
Freehold?

Seems very extreme getting a mortgage in place before you tackle it.

Maybe you're wired differently.

gtidriver

3,344 posts

187 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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He would make an excellent maintenance man/window cleaner.

J4CKO

41,530 posts

200 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Makes me squirm watching these, but have more respect for these guys as they do it day in day out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A_h2AjJaMw

I watch the documentaries about these and always wait for the dedication at the end, the more you do it, however confident you are, go messing on high structures with no safety gear, eventually you get it wrong, find that bit of grease or bird st, a freak gust of wind, a bird to the face or whatever and its game over.

Wonder how many of these guys are falling off, it does happen, imagine the regret that you would have go through your head for the few seconds it takes for gravity to do its work ?


Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Davey S2 said:
PulsatingStar said:
There isnt a lot of skill there, I could do all the climbing bits physically with ease.
Exactly. Anyone could walk along a foot wide beam easily if it was 6 inches off the ground. Put it several hundred feet up though and it becomes a different proposition.
Indeed!
Obviously an extremely small amount of people can do this.