Bradford- lost for words

Bradford- lost for words

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Matt Harper

6,615 posts

201 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Prior to emigrating with my job, I lived in Baildon - essentially a north-eastern suburb of Bradford.
Whilst I confess to avoiding venturing into the city unless I absolutely had to, it was actually quite agreeable - the pic below is Baildon Moor - the pic taken less than half a mile from where I lived.


jpringle819

719 posts

239 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Matt Harper said:
Prior to emigrating with my job, I lived in Baildon - essentially a north-eastern suburb of Bradford.
Whilst I confess to avoiding venturing into the city unless I absolutely had to, it was actually quite agreeable - the pic below is Baildon Moor - the pic taken less than half a mile from where I lived.

I spent a week working in Moorley and most of the time it was like your picture, and then I went to the White Rose shopping centre.

Vaud

50,418 posts

155 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Bradford stats can also be "balanced" by places like (very white) Ilkley. Depends on if you are talking about the city or the council area.

226bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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I've lived around the outskirts, yes the centre and close surrounding areas are stholes.
The people that live there came from a country of crime and squalor, they're used to it so don't know any better and just reduced the place to their level.

jpringle819

719 posts

239 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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I have worked on a few "Faith Schools" in the Leeds-Bradford area and there seems to be a bit of a trend in the types of Free Schools that are opening. I have noticed that the websites of the schools have been toned down a bit since the Birmingham revelations.

Soir

2,269 posts

239 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Have visited Bingley several times which is lovely but the drive through Bradford is an eye opener

Just scruffy, rubbish strewn everywhere. Every time I've been it does seem prodominately Asian and I always wonder what some of the locals family's in Asia think of the UK when they have visited family in Bradford


Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Why does "Asian" correspond with "st" again, sorry?

Mercury00

4,101 posts

156 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Matt Harper said:
Prior to emigrating with my job, I lived in Baildon - essentially a north-eastern suburb of Bradford.
Whilst I confess to avoiding venturing into the city unless I absolutely had to, it was actually quite agreeable - the pic below is Baildon Moor - the pic taken less than half a mile from where I lived.

Just like the OP said - there's 80% - 90% brown in that photo!

226bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Soir said:
Have visited Bingley several times which is lovely but the drive through Bradford is an eye opener

Just scruffy, rubbish strewn everywhere. Every time I've been it does seem prodominately Asian and I always wonder what some of the locals family's in Asia think of the UK when they have visited family in Bradford
Better than what they left behind, that's why they are here.

skip_1

3,460 posts

190 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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SAS Tom said:
skip_1 said:
I used to live in Bradford and it was no more Asian than many other old mill towns. Plenty of nice areas on the outskirts, but yes a city centre run down by neighbouring Leeds and White Rose Centre.
How can you blame Bradford being a dump on Leeds and 1 shopping centre?
I didn't, I said the centre has been run down.

Bradford used to be a much bigger richer city than Leeds. Manufacturing decline coupled with the rise of a prosperous Leeds saw people and businesses abandon Bradford.

The city centre of Bradford has declined massively in the last fifteen years as residents prefer to shop in Leeds and at the White Rose Centre. This is witnessed by many of the major store chains pulling out of Bradford due to the desertion by shoppers. Seriously it can be eerily empty on a Saturday.

Edited by skip_1 on Saturday 30th August 20:40

jogon

2,971 posts

158 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Matt Harper said:
Prior to emigrating with my job, I lived in Baildon - essentially a north-eastern suburb of Bradford.
Whilst I confess to avoiding venturing into the city unless I absolutely had to, it was actually quite agreeable - the pic below is Baildon Moor - the pic taken less than half a mile from where I lived.

Very nice. But give it another 20 years and you will probably see shanti towns strewn across the fields with the rates they are breeding at what with their multiple wives. All supported by the state. Channel 4 doing a show on the subject but not sure it's been pulled, supposedly due out late summer..

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/channel-4-...

jpringle819

719 posts

239 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Usget said:
Why does "Asian" correspond with "st" again, sorry?
Have you been to Bradford?

nascarrules

597 posts

183 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Leicesterdave said:
I've travelled to many places over the globe but have never seen such a hole. It is run down with nothing to offer.
I made the mistake of passing through Gelsenkirchen in Germany recently, it's the biggest sthole I've ever seen. Avoid it at all cost.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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I assume the ethnicity stats take in a lot of outer suburbs, while the impression of a higher concentration of Asians in the inner city reflects local conditions.

Vaud

50,418 posts

155 months

Saturday 30th August 2014
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Johnnytheboy said:
I assume the ethnicity stats take in a lot of outer suburbs, while the impression of a higher concentration of Asians in the inner city reflects local conditions.
Yes...

Vaud said:
Bradford stats can also be "balanced" by places like (very white) Ilkley. Depends on if you are talking about the city or the council area.
It's confused in part by the fact that the Bradford council district also covers areas with LS (Leeds) postcodes...

Leicesterdave

Original Poster:

2,282 posts

180 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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How can I put this in a politically correct way? How what this allow to happen? I mean yes, sure, my very basic understanding is that asian people were needed in the mills in the 50s and 60s but jeeeeze! If every major UK city modelled itself on Bradford you'd literally feel like it wasn't the UK anymore.

It's such a sensitive subject- and the racism card is played a lot. It's not being racist, I just think of it another way. If a huge influx of white people descended on a city in Pakistan, how would they feel? Again, it wouldn't be multiculturalism would it? The few remaining would just feel bitter, I'm sure of it.

wildoliver

8,770 posts

216 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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It's no different to areas in Spain where the Brits have made it in to little England, has it improved the area?

Yet it's fine to take the P*** out of the fat bald tattoo covered white people for ruining an area, for gods sake don't say it about a racial minority though.

226bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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wildoliver said:
It's no different to areas in Spain where the Brits have made it in to little England, has it improved the area?

Yet it's fine to take the P*** out of the fat bald tattoo covered white people for ruining an area, for gods sake don't say it about a racial minority though.
I disagree, you don't go to these Brit populated areas of Spain and find the Brits involved in:
Money laundering
Cash for crash schemes
Weed farms
Drugs sales
Paedophilia
Protection rackets
Listed Buildings mysteriously burned down
Street racing
Planning laws bypassed

If you live and/or work at ground level in Bradford you will have witnessed all of this.
People who think it doesn't go on on a regular basis have never lived at that level and just show the racism card out of the window of their ivory tower.

Edited by 226bhp on Sunday 31st August 08:13

9mm

3,128 posts

210 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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226bhp said:
wildoliver said:
It's no different to areas in Spain where the Brits have made it in to little England, has it improved the area?

Yet it's fine to take the P*** out of the fat bald tattoo covered white people for ruining an area, for gods sake don't say it about a racial minority though.
I disagree, you don't go to these Brit populated areas of Spain and find the Brits involved in:
Money laundering
Cash for crash schemes
Weed farms
Drugs sales
Paedophilia
Protection rackets
Listed Buildings mysteriously burned down
Street racing
Planning laws bypassed

If you live and/or work at ground level in Bradford you will have witnessed all of this.
People who think it doesn't go on on a regular basis have never lived at that level and just show the racism card out of the window of their ivory tower.

Edited by 226bhp on Sunday 31st August 08:13
You forgot car hire fraud, building religous establishments or converting existing ones to their faith, honour killings and the small matter of breeding like rabbits.

Areas in Spain where the Brits take over in Spain or Portugal are invariably populated by retired people, even if some are fat and bald. Tats are really quite rare unless we are talking about holiday resorts, which of course are a completely different subject and not relevant to this thread in the slightest.

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

128 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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9mm said:
Areas in Spain where the Brits take over in Spain or Portugal are invariably populated by retired people, even if some are fat and bald. Tats are really quite rare unless we are talking about holiday resorts, which of course are a completely different subject and not relevant to this thread in the slightest.
Costa del Crime?

I'd guess that most of Bradford's Asians were born here.