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SpeedMattersNot said:
e and my wife decided not to introduce one and it's been the best thing we've ever done (or not done). It's given us comparatively much more freedom - we don't even have regimented sleeping times and other than the first 4-6 weeks we've only had about 10 interrupted nights sleep.
Good luck and keep in touch. Maybe PH needs a dadsnet section
Sounds good.Good luck and keep in touch. Maybe PH needs a dadsnet section
I hope we can have something similar. I love my sleep.
funkyrobot said:
I have two days of work then I'm on paternity for two weeks.
Enjoy it. They are the strangest little things, it will help if you get into their head a little - o if crying they are normally hungry - they don't care about much else
o falling asleep is scary - they don't know they'll come back
o you are just a taller stuffed toy that obeys orders - don't expect rest or mercy
Ffs, does this parenting lark get any easier? We've only been home with Eris 7 hours and it's insane. We've realised that sterilising bottles is a pain, making her milk can be a pain and she has already been sick and screamed because it came out of her nose. She only took half if her 11.00 feed. However, it was the first time she has had mixed formula rather than pre-mixed.
She holds her wind terribly so when we put her down she wriggles for ages then is sick again. My god, it's s
t. I do hope it gets better as me and the good lady have already had a domestic tonight because of the stress!Honestly the first few months are not pleasant at all when it comes to the sleep deprivation, I'm currently trying to settle the little lad (3 week old) who has been up most of the night because he has a cold. The only way he will settle is laid across my chest and i am up in 30 minutes for a 12 hour slog of a day on barely two hours sleep. On a good night i get 5 hours broken up by feeds.
If you see her wriggling in her moses basket after putting her down after a feed its usually wind.
The vomiting is annoying, but stopping to burp her mid feed will help with that. If you put her (and her arms) over your shoulder and keep her vertical whilst patting her back she will burp well for you, we were doing it all wrong with our daughter and she was more slumped than vertical meaning she didn't burp very well. Much less sick this time round.
Anyway its turning into mumsnet here but hope it helps. Just remember it does get gradually better and before you know it they will sleep most the night through.
If you see her wriggling in her moses basket after putting her down after a feed its usually wind.
The vomiting is annoying, but stopping to burp her mid feed will help with that. If you put her (and her arms) over your shoulder and keep her vertical whilst patting her back she will burp well for you, we were doing it all wrong with our daughter and she was more slumped than vertical meaning she didn't burp very well. Much less sick this time round.
Anyway its turning into mumsnet here but hope it helps. Just remember it does get gradually better and before you know it they will sleep most the night through.
Edited by dazwalsh on Thursday 11th September 06:57
Might be worth changing to a different formula? We found we had to get some organic stuff else or son wouldnt take it. Mrs wasnt giving milk and said it bloody hurt so stuffed all the "expert" advise and said its more important to feed him something rather than nothing. One of the mums at antinatal class with us, caused their kid to have eating problems due to the constant forcing him to breast feed when it wasnt working.
Unfortunately explosive milk vomit is one of those things, make sure you put a towel over you shoulder when burping!
How do you put little one to bed? We found that swaddling meant a pretty decent nights sleep - when they are wrapped up tight they think they are back in the womb and (in our case) only woke for a feed.
It does get easier, as said, try not to stress though I know thats easier said than done!
Unfortunately explosive milk vomit is one of those things, make sure you put a towel over you shoulder when burping!
How do you put little one to bed? We found that swaddling meant a pretty decent nights sleep - when they are wrapped up tight they think they are back in the womb and (in our case) only woke for a feed.
It does get easier, as said, try not to stress though I know thats easier said than done!
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Just try and chill out a bit, I know that sounds easy to say - but babies recognise stress in their parents. Often, the calmer you are the calmer the baby is. Dont worry too much about the feeds, again (in general) theyll take what they need.
You can buy microwave and/or standalone bottle sterilisers.... do you have one of these?
Thanks. Have woken this morning feeling more positive. Mother in law came over for the night so she helped my fiancee sort Eris out. This meant I could escape to the spare bedroom and get some sleep. Have one more day at work tomorrow then paternity. At least I'll be able to rest in the day then.You can buy microwave and/or standalone bottle sterilisers.... do you have one of these?
Bought a standalone Avent steriliser. You put 100 ml of water in the bottom, press a button and it does the work on up to six bottles. Problem is, once you open the lid after it's finished, the bottles have to be used straight away as the sterility of the cage is lost.
I think I have that right.
Oh yes, the milk we are using is Aptamil 1.
dazwalsh said:
Honestly the first few months are not pleasant at all when it comes to the sleep deprivation, I'm currently trying to settle the little lad (3 week old) who has been up most of the night because he has a cold. The only way he will settle is laid across my chest and i am up in 30 minutes for a 12 hour slog of a day on barely two hours sleep. On a good night i get 5 hours broken up by feeds.
If you see her wriggling in her moses basket after putting her down after a feed its usually wind.
The vomiting is annoying, but stopping to burp her mid feed will help with that. If you put her (and her arms) over your shoulder and keep her vertical whilst patting her back she will burp well for you, we were doing it all wrong with our daughter and she was more slumped than vertical meaning she didn't burp very well. Much less sick this time round.
Anyway its turning into mumsnet here but hope it helps. Just remember it does get gradually better and before you know it they will sleep most the night through.
Thanks. I had been burping her on my knee. But as you say, that was a more slumped position. My fiancee puts her over her shoulder. I think I need to try that technique as it may help.If you see her wriggling in her moses basket after putting her down after a feed its usually wind.
The vomiting is annoying, but stopping to burp her mid feed will help with that. If you put her (and her arms) over your shoulder and keep her vertical whilst patting her back she will burp well for you, we were doing it all wrong with our daughter and she was more slumped than vertical meaning she didn't burp very well. Much less sick this time round.
Anyway its turning into mumsnet here but hope it helps. Just remember it does get gradually better and before you know it they will sleep most the night through.
Edited by dazwalsh on Thursday 11th September 06:57
As babies, my fiancee and I were apparently both sicky and windy. Poor Eris has probably just picked up our terrible traits.
With these feet said:
Might be worth changing to a different formula? We found we had to get some organic stuff else or son wouldnt take it. Mrs wasnt giving milk and said it bloody hurt so stuffed all the "expert" advise and said its more important to feed him something rather than nothing. One of the mums at antinatal class with us, caused their kid to have eating problems due to the constant forcing him to breast feed when it wasnt working.
Unfortunately explosive milk vomit is one of those things, make sure you put a towel over you shoulder when burping!
How do you put little one to bed? We found that swaddling meant a pretty decent nights sleep - when they are wrapped up tight they think they are back in the womb and (in our case) only woke for a feed.
It does get easier, as said, try not to stress though I know thats easier said than done!
Thanks.Unfortunately explosive milk vomit is one of those things, make sure you put a towel over you shoulder when burping!
How do you put little one to bed? We found that swaddling meant a pretty decent nights sleep - when they are wrapped up tight they think they are back in the womb and (in our case) only woke for a feed.
It does get easier, as said, try not to stress though I know thats easier said than done!
She is sleeping in her crib at night and in her pram in the day. We try to wrap her up tight in both.
She made the most alarming noise yesterday when the bit of sick came out of her nose. I think it frightened her and the acid it brought up didn't help. My fiancee was ever so good though and had her settled in 15 minutes. That is the first time we have seen Eris in pain and she kept trying to put her head all the way back. She also went quite red. Scary.
funkyrobot said:
Thanks. Have woken this morning feeling more positive. Mother in law came over for the night so she helped my fiancee sort Eris out.
Seeming this is PH, I have to ask; I take it you sorted out the mother in law as soon as you got chance?Looking forward to the "I shagged my MiL when the OH was feeding the baby and now the SWT wants the house and the baby and the MiL has genital warts" thread.
funkyrobot said:
Bought a standalone Avent steriliser. You put 100 ml of water in the bottom, press a button and it does the work on up to six bottles. Problem is, once you open the lid after it's finished, the bottles have to be used straight away as the sterility of the cage is lost.
If you assemble the bottles and put the lids on it keeps them sterile.dazwalsh said:
funkyrobot said:
Bought a standalone Avent steriliser. You put 100 ml of water in the bottom, press a button and it does the work on up to six bottles. Problem is, once you open the lid after it's finished, the bottles have to be used straight away as the sterility of the cage is lost.
If you assemble the bottles and put the lids on it keeps them sterile.Didn't think of that. Thanks.
tenpenceshort said:
Seeming this is PH, I have to ask; I take it you sorted out the mother in law as soon as you got chance?
Looking forward to the "I shagged my MiL when the OH was feeding the baby and now the SWT wants the house and the baby and the MiL has genital warts" thread.
Looking forward to the "I shagged my MiL when the OH was feeding the baby and now the SWT wants the house and the baby and the MiL has genital warts" thread.
Hell no. She's a lovely lady, but is 74 and really not my type.
As dazwalsh says, you can use the steriliser and as long as you assemble all the bottles with their caps on they are effective ready to use when you want them.
We found when burping our daughter it helped if we stopped after each 30-50 mils had gone in. We didn't have too much trouble with the burping and I'm sure this helped the process, she only threw it all up a handful of times.
Another tip we found for settling ours was music, not baby monophonic crap, but actual music. From about a week old she would settle very quickly to Tycho (it's like a type of chill out dance music). Obviously kept the volume down but she liked background music/noise like in the car and also in pubs etc.
The first 2-3 weeks are the hard bit, then up to about 3 months they don't really do a lot. But around this time you tend to get a bit of reward back from them so put the effort it now, it's critical.
Also, make sure mother in law doesn't try to get too involved. Make sure everyone involved knows it is you and your partners baby, not theirs. I've heard some horror stories...
We found when burping our daughter it helped if we stopped after each 30-50 mils had gone in. We didn't have too much trouble with the burping and I'm sure this helped the process, she only threw it all up a handful of times.
Another tip we found for settling ours was music, not baby monophonic crap, but actual music. From about a week old she would settle very quickly to Tycho (it's like a type of chill out dance music). Obviously kept the volume down but she liked background music/noise like in the car and also in pubs etc.
The first 2-3 weeks are the hard bit, then up to about 3 months they don't really do a lot. But around this time you tend to get a bit of reward back from them so put the effort it now, it's critical.
Also, make sure mother in law doesn't try to get too involved. Make sure everyone involved knows it is you and your partners baby, not theirs. I've heard some horror stories...
Just keep your positive, this year my wife was diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer at 6 months pregnant and started chemotherapy straight away. Our baby daughter was born two weeks early to avoid a 4th chemo infusion and was subsequently in Peterborough ICU with an infection which nearly killed her.
Today she's fine, my little boy is celebrating his 2nd birthday and my wife's tumour has shrunk from 55mm to 15mm (she will have her mastectomy on 6th October but as things stand it looks like she will make a full recovery)
Life can be a total c**t but what doesn't kill us makes us stronger and better people, the key is not to let the bad events fk us up for the rest of our lives, this isn't a trial run!
Today she's fine, my little boy is celebrating his 2nd birthday and my wife's tumour has shrunk from 55mm to 15mm (she will have her mastectomy on 6th October but as things stand it looks like she will make a full recovery)
Life can be a total c**t but what doesn't kill us makes us stronger and better people, the key is not to let the bad events f
k us up for the rest of our lives, this isn't a trial run!Edited by oddball1973 on Thursday 11th September 17:36
Edited by oddball1973 on Friday 12th September 19:21
oddball1973 said:
Just keep your positive, this year my wife was diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer at 6 months pregnant and started chemotherapy straight away. Our baby daughter was born two weeks early to avoid a 4th chemo infusion and was subsequently in Peterborough ICU with an infection which nearly killed her.
Today she's fine, my little boy is celebrating his 2nd birthday and my wife's tumour has shrunk from 55mm to 15mm (she will have her mastectomy on 6th October but as things stand it looks like she will make a full recovery)
Like can be a total c**t but what does kill us makes us stronger and better people, the key is not to let the bad events fk us up for the rest of our lives, this isn't a trial run!
Wow. That is something that makes my situation look like nothing.Today she's fine, my little boy is celebrating his 2nd birthday and my wife's tumour has shrunk from 55mm to 15mm (she will have her mastectomy on 6th October but as things stand it looks like she will make a full recovery)
Like can be a total c**t but what does kill us makes us stronger and better people, the key is not to let the bad events f
k us up for the rest of our lives, this isn't a trial run!Hope all goes well for your family.
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