What's life really like in prison?
Discussion
hora said:
In our local gym (especially the sauna) you get to hear some stories from reformed/ex-cons and f
k I thought I could be handy in a fight (maybe at school). These people are on another level interms of sheer violence and terror they've been involved with growing up.
Almost like another world.
It certainly is another world.k I thought I could be handy in a fight (maybe at school). These people are on another level interms of sheer violence and terror they've been involved with growing up. Almost like another world.
I was having a chat with the eldest a few days ago about a murder in our town; a guy was murdered because he was in a relationship with a girl who's ex had just got out of prison for drug offences, the ex just went looking for him and killed him; I just can't comprehend what goes through someones mind for them to do that; he will be back in prison now for a bloody long time, won't ever see his daughter and has screwed up his life again.
HTP99 said:
It certainly is another world.
I was having a chat with the eldest a few days ago about a murder in our town; a guy was murdered because he was in a relationship with a girl who's ex had just got out of prison for drug offences, the ex just went looking for him and killed him; I just can't comprehend what goes through someones mind for them to do that; he will be back in prison now for a bloody long time, won't ever see his daughter and has screwed up his life again.
Interesting. have you a link to that, which town was it and when?I was having a chat with the eldest a few days ago about a murder in our town; a guy was murdered because he was in a relationship with a girl who's ex had just got out of prison for drug offences, the ex just went looking for him and killed him; I just can't comprehend what goes through someones mind for them to do that; he will be back in prison now for a bloody long time, won't ever see his daughter and has screwed up his life again.
Thankyou4calling said:
HTP99 said:
It certainly is another world.
I was having a chat with the eldest a few days ago about a murder in our town; a guy was murdered because he was in a relationship with a girl who's ex had just got out of prison for drug offences, the ex just went looking for him and killed him; I just can't comprehend what goes through someones mind for them to do that; he will be back in prison now for a bloody long time, won't ever see his daughter and has screwed up his life again.
Interesting. have you a link to that, which town was it and when?I was having a chat with the eldest a few days ago about a murder in our town; a guy was murdered because he was in a relationship with a girl who's ex had just got out of prison for drug offences, the ex just went looking for him and killed him; I just can't comprehend what goes through someones mind for them to do that; he will be back in prison now for a bloody long time, won't ever see his daughter and has screwed up his life again.
thetrash said:
Tony427 said:
I recently packed in working in the prison service on the "occupational training" side, trying to train ex offenders so that they can cope on the outside and use the training and skills they have expensively gained on the inside to ensure they didn't come back.
Prisons are divided into four categories, A Category for maximum security high esca[pe risk, B Cat for slightly less violent/ dangerous offenders medium escape risk, C Cat for Low risk prisoners, D Cat very low risk preparation for pre release prisoners.
I worked in C category.
C Category prisons are easy.
Single cells, Sky TV, 3 relatively decent meals per day, prison canteen to buy luxuries using weekly spend or wages earned in the prison workshop. Prices are high however compared to outside.
Drugs are very easy to come by, either over the fence or via a "bent" officer or other prison worker. "Mamba" was a particular problem I remember. Failing that so many prisoners were on medication ( some of them, although very few, were even genuinely ill however most used the drugs gaines as an income source) that it was easy to get any amount of prescription drugs so that an offender could take a "day trip" on his birthday or some other occasion. Brewing hooch ( illicit alcohol) was also a common pastime.
A large percentage of prisoners were mentally ill, poorly educated and lacked any real self control or moral compass. Their parents completely failed them in their upbringing and unfortunately the cycle is continued as the offenders breed like rabbits once outside and then abandon their kids. Its not unusual to have a bloke of 25 on a long sentence, probably drug suuply related, to have 6 kids on the outside with four or five "baby mothers". Who supports these mothers I wonder? And what happens to their kids who have no father figure at all, or perhaps one in jail. "When I grow up I want to be like my dad".
These, shall we call them Scrotes, are the vast majority of the prison population, from my experience number a good 70%, and they will reoffend because that is what they do. These are the prolific offenders, if your patio doors are forced open this evening its probably one of these gentlemen doing it.
The Scrotes view society as victims, we are meal tickets, and prison as a worthwhle risk.
This is a large section of society that we try to forget about and the majority of law abiding citizens never have any dealings with them, unless they are a victim of crime.
Then there is the other 30% of prisoners that perhaps we can do something with. These are just normal guys. Of these, long term prisoners are generally institutionalised and terrified of leaving prison, its all they have known for many years.
"I dont want to leave, its dangerous out there".
Of the rest many will do their time and never come back. They did something stupid, a mate asked for a favour, they thought that they could make some easy money, they got drunk and hit someone , got caught, got sentenced and got out keeping a low profile.
For the vast majority however prison is a revolving door. This vast majority, the Scrotes, has no regard or interest in society, has no desire to behave properly with regard to others or to concequences and as a result we all pay the costs both in crime and in prison budgets.
Conversely we have the prison system that is motivated to keep the prison service as is.
"Hurry back, bring a friend" is the parting thoughts of each prison officer as a guest leaves after his stay.
Tattooing in a prison is illegal and will earn loss of privileges. It doesn't stop the prisoners though.
However, why is it that some of the most tattooed people in prison are officers ? I've even seen female govenors with highly visible tattoos. Why?
Violence is common in prison. The pool ball or tin of tuna in a sock is a useful weapon. The last thing you need in prison is a extremely well built, unstable, highly violent thug.
So what do we do in prison.
We equip them with good gyms and prisoners take full advantage building themselves into mountains of muscle. And guess what, who sells body building powders , drinks, dietery supplements etc to prisoners?...yep the prison service.
"But they are quite safe dietery supplements aren't they" I hear you ask.
I was so worried about what some of the guys were taking that I took the product packaging and googled what was in it.
How about cattle growth hormones and steroids that are illegal for farm animals in EU but legal in the US?
How about extremely high dosage level testosterone and steroids in a "power additive" to be taken before and after a workout.
Obviously this is just what the prison service needs to sell to its population of body builders. Instant testosterone boosters and steroid rage indusers. Just whats needed in a jail. More testosterone.
I may appear to be jaundiced but I am far from alone in my views. The suppliers to prisons make a fortune, the regime continues as it is in its own interest to do so, the Scrotes continue to wreak havoc throughout the land and nothing changes.
So I escaped.
Cheers,
Tony
Lots of inaccuracies in this post. For a start no public sector prisons have Sky TV available for prisoners to watch. What difference does it make that a female governor has tattoos on show either? And most Officers I know parting words to prisoners who are being released is dont come back. Prisons are divided into four categories, A Category for maximum security high esca[pe risk, B Cat for slightly less violent/ dangerous offenders medium escape risk, C Cat for Low risk prisoners, D Cat very low risk preparation for pre release prisoners.
I worked in C category.
C Category prisons are easy.
Single cells, Sky TV, 3 relatively decent meals per day, prison canteen to buy luxuries using weekly spend or wages earned in the prison workshop. Prices are high however compared to outside.
Drugs are very easy to come by, either over the fence or via a "bent" officer or other prison worker. "Mamba" was a particular problem I remember. Failing that so many prisoners were on medication ( some of them, although very few, were even genuinely ill however most used the drugs gaines as an income source) that it was easy to get any amount of prescription drugs so that an offender could take a "day trip" on his birthday or some other occasion. Brewing hooch ( illicit alcohol) was also a common pastime.
A large percentage of prisoners were mentally ill, poorly educated and lacked any real self control or moral compass. Their parents completely failed them in their upbringing and unfortunately the cycle is continued as the offenders breed like rabbits once outside and then abandon their kids. Its not unusual to have a bloke of 25 on a long sentence, probably drug suuply related, to have 6 kids on the outside with four or five "baby mothers". Who supports these mothers I wonder? And what happens to their kids who have no father figure at all, or perhaps one in jail. "When I grow up I want to be like my dad".
These, shall we call them Scrotes, are the vast majority of the prison population, from my experience number a good 70%, and they will reoffend because that is what they do. These are the prolific offenders, if your patio doors are forced open this evening its probably one of these gentlemen doing it.
The Scrotes view society as victims, we are meal tickets, and prison as a worthwhle risk.
This is a large section of society that we try to forget about and the majority of law abiding citizens never have any dealings with them, unless they are a victim of crime.
Then there is the other 30% of prisoners that perhaps we can do something with. These are just normal guys. Of these, long term prisoners are generally institutionalised and terrified of leaving prison, its all they have known for many years.
"I dont want to leave, its dangerous out there".
Of the rest many will do their time and never come back. They did something stupid, a mate asked for a favour, they thought that they could make some easy money, they got drunk and hit someone , got caught, got sentenced and got out keeping a low profile.
For the vast majority however prison is a revolving door. This vast majority, the Scrotes, has no regard or interest in society, has no desire to behave properly with regard to others or to concequences and as a result we all pay the costs both in crime and in prison budgets.
Conversely we have the prison system that is motivated to keep the prison service as is.
"Hurry back, bring a friend" is the parting thoughts of each prison officer as a guest leaves after his stay.
Tattooing in a prison is illegal and will earn loss of privileges. It doesn't stop the prisoners though.
However, why is it that some of the most tattooed people in prison are officers ? I've even seen female govenors with highly visible tattoos. Why?
Violence is common in prison. The pool ball or tin of tuna in a sock is a useful weapon. The last thing you need in prison is a extremely well built, unstable, highly violent thug.
So what do we do in prison.
We equip them with good gyms and prisoners take full advantage building themselves into mountains of muscle. And guess what, who sells body building powders , drinks, dietery supplements etc to prisoners?...yep the prison service.
"But they are quite safe dietery supplements aren't they" I hear you ask.
I was so worried about what some of the guys were taking that I took the product packaging and googled what was in it.
How about cattle growth hormones and steroids that are illegal for farm animals in EU but legal in the US?
How about extremely high dosage level testosterone and steroids in a "power additive" to be taken before and after a workout.
Obviously this is just what the prison service needs to sell to its population of body builders. Instant testosterone boosters and steroid rage indusers. Just whats needed in a jail. More testosterone.
I may appear to be jaundiced but I am far from alone in my views. The suppliers to prisons make a fortune, the regime continues as it is in its own interest to do so, the Scrotes continue to wreak havoc throughout the land and nothing changes.
So I escaped.
Cheers,
Tony
iphonedyou said:
OddJoe said:
Source for the Prison Service providing testosterone and steroids to prisoners?
Probably googled one of those shiny, brightly coloured labels that attempt to make powder that does virtually nothing appear like steroids to impressionable teenagers.And the guys were not impressionable teenagers.
Cheers,
Tony
iphonedyou said:
OddJoe said:
Source for the Prison Service providing testosterone and steroids to prisoners?
Probably googled one of those shiny, brightly coloured labels that attempt to make powder that does virtually nothing appear like steroids to impressionable teenagers.Do you really believe the prisons are importing steroids willingly?
What are the products then, come on? I'm not aware of anything you can legally buy in the UK to have a noticeable affect on testosterone levels.
My only prison experience is driving past hull prison as the visitors arrived, a young woman was walking towards the gate when the wind blew her coat open, she was wearing the full outfit, basque, stockings , just what you need in prison.
I told this to an ex prison officer who confirmed it was a fairly regular thing for the women to turn up just wearing a coat then refuse to take it off to be searched
I told this to an ex prison officer who confirmed it was a fairly regular thing for the women to turn up just wearing a coat then refuse to take it off to be searched
Calza said:
I'm going with this.
Do you really believe the prisons are importing steroids willingly?
What are the products then, come on? I'm not aware of anything you can legally buy in the UK to have a noticeable affect on testosterone levels.
I'm going back eight plus years but you used to be able to buy Tren Bombs which were an artificial testosterone booster. They were outlawed a while ago though. Do you really believe the prisons are importing steroids willingly?
What are the products then, come on? I'm not aware of anything you can legally buy in the UK to have a noticeable affect on testosterone levels.
shakotan said:
Also, 'roid rage' is generally a myth. It can certainly heighten the aggression of an already aggressive person, but if you're a passive person its not going to turn you into some homicidal maniac.
Roid rage is a newspaper headline.Taking steroids won't affect your levels of tolerance at all.
The trouble is of course that many who take steroids are aggressive anyway, security people, lifters, sports people etc and they are then not only aggressive people but strong aggressive people.
Andy_mr2sc said:
I'm going back eight plus years but you used to be able to buy Tren Bombs which were an artificial testosterone booster. They were outlawed a while ago though.
Never heard of it, but that doesn't mean anything. Trenbolone is a massively powerful steroid, but it's got to go Intra-muscular. Are Needles & Syringes available inside?Calza said:
Never heard of it, but that doesn't mean anything. Trenbolone is a massively powerful steroid, but it's got to go Intra-muscular. Are Needles & Syringes available inside?
This was tablet form so I guess much weaker. You were only meant to take them for one week in four or they could do some serious damage. The name is still out there but I guess they changed the ingredients. I've been watching this documentary on the UK prison system.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0524ftf/crim...
It tells you all you need to know.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0524ftf/crim...
It tells you all you need to know.
Soov535 said:
Enjoy. soad said:
Soov535 said:
Enjoy. Did we find out what the author was in for?
Calza said:
soad said:
Soov535 said:
Enjoy. Did we find out what the author was in for?
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