What's life really like in prison?

What's life really like in prison?

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Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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A mate is vicar of Dartmoor prison. That is very much not a holiday camp. He does his best for them but some are beyond even God's help.

theshrew

6,008 posts

184 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Rude-boy said:
Not all criminals come from the 'thick as st' camp.
I know what you mean, people do come up with some creative ideas of how to commit crime.

However if they were that clever they wouldnt be in Jail in the first place would they.

Vanin

1,010 posts

166 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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I did ten years of time and I never committed a crime!
Ten years of bullying, beating, backs to the wall in the communal shower block, occasional drugs but blagging for cigarettes was a big pastime, compulsory exercise,compulsory Chapel, no girls, very few family visits.

And they all think going to a Public School is a privilege! Jail sounds like a doddle.

TREMAiNE

3,918 posts

149 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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I was given two life sentances for killing my wife and her lover, even though I didn't actually do it.

The first few years were horrible, I was regularly beaten and raped but eventually when I was finally institutionalised things started looking up. I met some great friends who were all there through mistakes they'd made as kids. Red for example, had killed a woman when he was in his teens but after more than 20 years of being inside was a completely changed man.

Anyways, I disgress, eventually I did manage to tunnel my way out - I was wrongfully sent down and didn't feel like it was right for me to be there. Following my escape I ensured that the corrupt warden and prison officers got arrested from there crimes and I then fled to Mexico to start a new life...

schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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swerni said:
Fishtigua said:
A mate is vicar of Dartmoor prison. That is very much not a holiday camp. He does his best for them but some are beyond even God's help.
Exactly what help does god offer?

Just curious
At a guess, eternal salvation?

edgyedgy

474 posts

127 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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theshrew said:
I know what you mean, people do come up with some creative ideas of how to commit crime.

However if they were that clever they wouldnt be in Jail in the first place would they.

not strictly true, few years ago there was kid from Tyneside iirc who police used to call spiderboy. I don't remember all details of it but loaded magazine had article about him saying he had iq in the 170's yet this guys a typical yo-yo scumbag.some of these guys are smart as anyone but went down wrong path.

King Herald

23,501 posts

216 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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TREMAiNE said:
I was given two life sentances for killing my wife and her lover, even though I didn't actually do it......................Following my escape I ensured that the corrupt warden and prison officers got arrested from there crimes and I then fled to Mexico to start a new life...
I tried to get you out mate, offered to support your alibi that someone else did the heinous crime, but I was shot in a nasty accident involving a cigarette in the yard....

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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swerni said:
Exactly what help does god offer?

Just curious
Biscuits

Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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TREMAiNE said:
I was given two life sentances for killing my wife and her lover, even though I didn't actually do it.

The first few years were horrible, I was regularly beaten and raped but eventually when I was finally institutionalised things started looking up. I met some great friends who were all there through mistakes they'd made as kids. Red for example, had killed a woman when he was in his teens but after more than 20 years of being inside was a completely changed man.

Anyways, I disgress, eventually I did manage to tunnel my way out - I was wrongfully sent down and didn't feel like it was right for me to be there. Following my escape I ensured that the corrupt warden and prison officers got arrested from there crimes and I then fled to Mexico to start a new life...
Thanks for the financial advice - did the 'wife' thing and it worked like a dream.

Hope the boys enjoyed the beers.

Frenchda

1,318 posts

233 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I done a huge stretch of 5 days, managed not to become institutionalised neither was I touched inappropriately.


schmunk

4,399 posts

125 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Frenchda said:
I done a huge stretch of 5 days, managed not to become institutionalised neither was I touched inappropriately.
Were it for crimes against grammar?

Frenchda

1,318 posts

233 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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schmunk said:
Frenchda said:
I done a huge stretch of 5 days, managed not to become institutionalised neither was I touched inappropriately.
Were it for crimes against grammar?
smile

PurpleTurtle

6,990 posts

144 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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lukefreeman said:
HTP99 said:
Challo said:
lukefreeman said:
So if you want a career I should go to jail and get on a course?

Sorry but it's bullst that inmates get free education. If they want education inside, it should be like on the outside.......student loan to payback once they're outside and in employment.
What about inmates trying to better themselves and breakout of the cycle of offending and going back into jail? The cost of the education is minimal compared to the cost of putting someone in jail.
This.

Don't educate them and they will then come out and are more likely to re-offend again as they have no other option, educate them and there is a far higher chance that they will come out and be in a far better position of securing a job and a better life.
No no no I'm not trying to say that.

What I'm trying to say is that, once they're out, they should get charged a student loan once they're earning an a certain ammount, just like regular students who don't commit crimes.
Surely Prison should (ideal world blinkers on) be about punishment and rehabilitation whilst detained at Her Maj's Pleasure?

This seems to have been what has happened in WelshJon81's case, well done to you Sir for turning it round, your post sounds genuinely remorseful, and shows the positives that can come from such a bad experience.

If WelshJon81 knew he'd be facing a big bill on the outside for improving himself on the inside then he'd be far less inclined to do that and would likely have spent his days playing on the proverbial Prison Playstation, bumping up the reoffending rates on release (36% reoffending rate amongst those doing a 1-4yr stretch, 58% on those doing < 12month sentences). If the cost to the taxpayer of funding his education in prison is less than keeping him inside again for a further offence then society as a whole benefits.

ChrisNic

592 posts

146 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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TREMAiNE said:
I was given two life sentances for killing my wife and her lover, even though I didn't actually do it.

The first few years were horrible, I was regularly beaten and raped but eventually when I was finally institutionalised things started looking up. I met some great friends who were all there through mistakes they'd made as kids. Red for example, had killed a woman when he was in his teens but after more than 20 years of being inside was a completely changed man.

Anyways, I disgress, eventually I did manage to tunnel my way out - I was wrongfully sent down and didn't feel like it was right for me to be there. Following my escape I ensured that the corrupt warden and prison officers got arrested from there crimes and I then fled to Mexico to start a new life...
Amazing story, they should make a film with it.

tezzer

983 posts

186 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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As part of my work, I've been in (and back out the same day) prisons in lots of places, including the Phillipes, Malaysia and Thailand. These places are ruled with an iron fist, and "time" isn't in anyway shape of form comfortable.

It's a punishment, and survival isn't guaranteed.

Bangkwang, the infamous Bangkok Hilton is as dire and desperate as you can imagine, no one goes there with a sentence of less than 15 years, and lots go there to shake off this mortal coil, now done by lethal injection, as opposed to a back full of bullets, (The last executioner is a good read).

UK prisons just don't compare.

theshrew

6,008 posts

184 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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A couple of lads I know sometimes work in jails. From a outsiders point of view the worst ones are the women's prisons. They get loads of verbal mostly sexual stuff, apparently its quite funny at times but they aren't aloud to say anything back.

When they are in male prisons the odd fruit loop might say random stuff to them but in the main they don't get any grief at all.

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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swerni said:
Hobnobs ?
Communion wafers

BooHoo

165 posts

116 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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I spent 7 days in a young offenders institution back in 1993, we did school type lessons like woodwork, art, computing etc. The lessons were not compulsory but if you didn't go you would stay locked in your cell.
It was very noisy at night, loads of idiots shouting, banging on walls and floor. My shared cell had a broken window so it was bloody cold (December).
The food was vile, but overall it was just boring.

It does seem to have worked though because I have never been to prison since, I've also not been in any kind of trouble apart from the odd driving offense here and there.

Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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theshrew said:
A couple of lads I know sometimes work in jails. From a outsiders point of view the worst ones are the women's prisons. They get loads of verbal mostly sexual stuff, apparently its quite funny at times but they aren't aloud to say anything back.

When they are in male prisons the odd fruit loop might say random stuff to them but in the main they don't get any grief at all.
Colleague of mine had a tin of piss bounce off his bonnet yesterday actually laugh

Wacky Racer

38,163 posts

247 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Vanin said:
I did ten years of time and I never committed a crime!
Ten years of bullying, beating, backs to the wall in the communal shower block, occasional drugs but blagging for cigarettes was a big pastime, compulsory exercise,compulsory Chapel, no girls, very few family visits.

And they all think going to a Public School is a privilege! Jail sounds like a doddle.
Ever watched "If"?