Baby death what next ?

Baby death what next ?

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SydneyBridge

8,592 posts

158 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Sorry for your loss.
We had a son stillborn 6 years ago, just too soon to be legally registered. We found a brilliant undertaker who dealt with the body. We decided to bury him and bought a lovely little coffin and had a small service for just the two of us. Bought a plot close to other Childs graves in the cemetery. We wanted something to remember him by and somewhere to go.
The undertaker just charged basic costs.

nellyleelephant

2,705 posts

234 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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As a recent father (5 months) this brings real tears to my eyes.

Sorry for your loss, I hope your family are doing as well as they can be.

lord trumpton

7,392 posts

126 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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What an awful question to have to ask.

Very sorry indeed.


Oakey

27,565 posts

216 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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So sorry to hear that frown

RaeB

552 posts

214 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Sorry for your loss. As someone else mentioned earlier, registering the death will be incredibly hard, perhaps someone else could take on this responsibility.

Chrisgr31

13,474 posts

255 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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MrAndyW said:
Just to say all the people in Jessops Sheffild where she was born and Leeds G/I where she was transfered to, were absolutley AMAZING.
God knoows how they do that job, It must be the best in the world when it goes right and the worst when it dosn't.
thanks again Andy
My wife is a midwife, not at Jessops, and as you say it is the best job in the world when it goes right and the worst when it doesn't. Fortunately it doesn't go wrong very often, although they had to resus a baby today and then transfer said baby to a specialist unit.

Broadly speaking the undertaker and hospital will guide you on the process. Its worth considering advising the midwife team when the funeral is, they often like to attend assuming its appropriate and shift patterns allow it. I can assure you the midwifes will also be upset, and every aspect of the care will be checked to see if they can learn anything.

Endorphin

101 posts

176 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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I am truly sorry to hear this. My thoughts are with you and your family, especially mum and dad.

Sadly, my wife and I had to deal with this last year. Someone mentioned SANDS. Please do reach out to them as they will be there to help.

You may need to talk to different funeral directors to see who is able to help here. The hospital may be able to point you in the right direction, but many crematoriums (if that is what mum and dad prefer) have a day every fortnight or month specially for this. We found one who would ensure there were ashes, which was important to us.

Most of all though, remember that no fear, no hate, no evil...none of the bad things of this world were ever felt by your grandchild. Only love.


55palfers

5,909 posts

164 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Sincere condolences - so very sad.

ADJimbo

434 posts

186 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Like others, I really am very sorry to read of your loss. May she rest in peace and love.

I own and run a business in the funeral arena near Doncaster and I'd be more than happy to put you in touch with a local FD who'll look after you all.

Any reputable FD will not charge for their services in this instance.

PM me if I can be of any further help.

James


Miocene

1,338 posts

157 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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nellyleelephant said:
As a recent father (5 months) this brings real tears to my eyes.

Sorry for your loss, I hope your family are doing as well as they can be.
Also being a father to a 5 month old I can only echo the above and other comments. Wishing your family all the best at this difficult time.

rambo19

2,740 posts

137 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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When my brother died the funeral directors were brilliant.
Go and see one, they know what needs doing and are very sympathetic.
So sorry for your loss.

Tunku

7,703 posts

228 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Terrible news, but, the Undertakers will do everything for you, if you have a question about anything, just ask them. They do this professionally and do it bloody well as a rule.
God bless you all.

Meant to add, you can phone the Undertakers any time, day or night.

Edited by Tunku on Saturday 20th September 00:02

lord trumpton

7,392 posts

126 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Tunku said:
Terrible news, but, the Undertakers will do everything for you, if you have a question about anything, just ask them. They do this professionally and do it bloody well as a rule.
God bless you all.

Meant to add, you can phone the Undertakers any time, day or night.

Edited by Tunku on Saturday 20th September 00:02
This is not meant to be a joke or a smart arse comment - is that why they are called 'undertakers'? Because they undertake the arrangements on your behalf...must be.

Never occurred to me before.

SBDJ

1,321 posts

204 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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My condolences on your loss and my sympathy to your family.

I went through something similar almost 6 years ago; one of my twins was stillborn.

As other posters have also explained the undertakers will usually handle everything - in my case they arranged the coffin, release and transportation of my son and the burial service.

I don't know why but I find comfort in having somewhere to go when I need to.

shoehorn

686 posts

143 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Our first child,a boy was still born in 2005,a seriously challenging time indeed for all concerned.
We were appointed a specialist bereavement midwife who answered most of the many questions we had and assisted as much as she could.
I couldn`t really say that she made it any easier for us at the time,
days became a haze but she did her best to ensure that it was not made anymore difficult than it already was and that we didn`t fall off the rails.
There are no hard or fast rules to this and people will behave completely unexpectedly,after initial grief I bottled it up for weeks,stupidly thinking it was beneficial to my wife.
The best advice I would give to parents in this situation is to not to be consumed with finding a reason.
As we found out,the most important questions as parents are those that sadly sometimes there is no answer to,that and for them to talk to people and explain their story and to not feel ashamed by it.

We had a daughter 14 months later and from the point of confirming the pregnancy onward we started to re-focus on life,with all the angst and worries that came with it.
Trying again when the time is right is an old cliche but it worked for us,though unimaginable at the time and for a while afterwards,there were some dark times when I honestly thought that I would never feel happiness again and a genuine smile was a distant memory,never to be felt again.
I feel guilt every time I look at my oldest girl(7yo),heartbreaking to think that she is only really there because of our loss and that I foolishly felt from the beginning some resentment would surface from me towards her because of this,I was wrong,so wrong.
You are never the same again but you will one day be able to smile,genuinely.

Each new life… No matter how fragile or brief… Forever changes the world.

MrAndyW

Original Poster:

508 posts

148 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Once again thanks for all your feelings and especialy the offers of help,
I am in a slightly difficult position as all the decisions have to be made by my daughter and her partner and at their pace, I am just here to gentley help and coax them along. Possible gently push them in the right direction when required.
The info from all you people has been fantastic. Google is your friend,but when life's a bit messed up it;s hard to make sense of all the stuff, you just need a bit of plain English,which is exactly what I got here.
Thanks a million for the offers of help.I don't if I will take you up on them,as it's up to the parents.
But just thank you so so much.
You have ALL genuinely helped these last few days.
Andy.


jontysafe

2,351 posts

178 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Very difficult to read this, I`m so sorry for your loss and that of the rest of your family.

My sister had 2 stillbirths and it`s incredibly painful.

I have a 7 month old daughter that arrived 7 weeks odd early and I can relate to the staff in SCBU. They are incredible.

I`m currently travelling 1000s of miles from home away from my daughter so reading this has introduced *dust* into my eyes.

R6VED

1,370 posts

140 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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This tragedy happened to my niece, she only lived 7 days and it was the most traumatic time for everyone - she contracted a virus as a result of poor hygeine at the hospital - it was on the news and in the papers which made it even worse.

I now have two children under two, one is 6 weeks old.

I am so sorry for your tragic loss, there is nothing worse to experience in life imo. I have tears in my eyes and am hoping my wife doesn't notice as she will cry if i tell her what i am responding too.

Best wishes and my thoughts are with you.

Charlie

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

233 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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I will add my condolences... smile

OP, I wish you all the best at this difficult time - as I do to other posters on this thread who are grieving or have grieved (and, realistically, still are to some degree as it never quitewink stops for the rest of our days on earth). smile

Losing "someone" is unique to everyone - no matter who they were and our relationship with them. There is nothing wrong with mourning their passing or grieving for them, as they leave a 'hole' - a gap - in our lives cry . The 'rulebook' (the "5 stages of grieving stuff" rolleyes) says "18 months or so"; the 'acute' phase can last for longer (or shorter) than this but it never leaves you (it just becomes 'chronic' and as such more manageable but it never ever leaves you frown ).

There is also nothing wrong with seeking "bereavement counselling" - being bereaved is a very painful experience, and most people can manage it within the wide bounds of a "normal" response so hearing from a counsellor that we are "coping" is reassuring in itself cloud9 . But if our feelings of loss seem to be starting to become oppressive or even self-consuming then counselling is Number One on the list - and it's very helpful (if painful frown - been there, done that and benefitted very muchly smile ) in getting back on track with what's left of life until the next chapter starts...

Life can be harsh sometimes! But what doesn't kill us makes us - in the long term (like, several years in this case wink ) - stronger smile . It's very very hard on the way though...

Ved

3,825 posts

175 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Just adding my sincere condolences too, to all involved.