How can you disappear these days ?
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All that jazz said:
It's actually incredibly easy and I can tell you this because it's exactly what I do. My landlord (and my neighbours) believe I am actually called a totally different name to my real one. Gumtree is your friend for private lets and if you're any good at social engineering you can easily bluff your landlord with a plausible story about how you don't have your ID with you whilst simultaneously giving him his bond in cash, his first month up front, telling him how much you like what he's done with the property and asking him if he has any other properties/general chitchat questioning to get him talking about something else. Once you build up a rapport and the money lands in their account every month the vigilance goes straight out of the window.
What does get tricky is when you have mates round who forget what they should be calling you when stood outside in earshot of the neighbours... Also, having parcels kindly taken in by neighbours when you're out quickly becomes an awkward one to explain when they ask who [your real name on the label] is.
It's fair to say that the electoral roll's changes where you have to prove who you are before they'll add you now will have a big impact on the fraudsters and those wishing to stay off the surface radar by using aliases, however I have heard rumour that the NI number you have to provide so they can "confirm your identity" is in fact just scaremongering and the electoral roll dept have no means of actually checking the authenticity of the full number, they can only compare the characters against the NINO algorithm to see if it's a valid number. Dunno whether it's true, never tried it and only what I've been told from some old dodgy contacts.
This (for whatever reason) is what I was thinking of because I've done it several times. A landlord who has met you but doesn't know you. If the money's getting to them reliably, it's not really an issue.What does get tricky is when you have mates round who forget what they should be calling you when stood outside in earshot of the neighbours... Also, having parcels kindly taken in by neighbours when you're out quickly becomes an awkward one to explain when they ask who [your real name on the label] is.
It's fair to say that the electoral roll's changes where you have to prove who you are before they'll add you now will have a big impact on the fraudsters and those wishing to stay off the surface radar by using aliases, however I have heard rumour that the NI number you have to provide so they can "confirm your identity" is in fact just scaremongering and the electoral roll dept have no means of actually checking the authenticity of the full number, they can only compare the characters against the NINO algorithm to see if it's a valid number. Dunno whether it's true, never tried it and only what I've been told from some old dodgy contacts.
I also never really got to know the neighbours, so I was just the quiet guy next door.
The first time I did it I had a valid reason for doing so. Then I realised it was easy and quite nice having no one know where I was so I did it for my next few places.
Oh, incidentally I've also never registered to vote. That's not in an effort to be secretive (and all registration is correct and open for my current property) but I think I could quite easily do it if I really wanted to.
Edited by RobinBanks on Monday 20th October 11:09
Out here in Thailand there are many guys that have "fallen off the radar" in up country Issan, although the immigration clampdowns is starting to catch some of them out ....
Enter country with a chunk of cash and head to Issan, set up a small local business / teach English for income whilst using your chunk of cash to set yourself up / grease any wheels needing said lube.
Probably even easier in Laos or Cambodia!
Enter country with a chunk of cash and head to Issan, set up a small local business / teach English for income whilst using your chunk of cash to set yourself up / grease any wheels needing said lube.
Probably even easier in Laos or Cambodia!
RobinBanks said:
This (for whatever reason) is what I was thinking of because I've done it several times. A landlord who has met you but doesn't know you. If the money's getting to them reliably, it's not really an issue.
I also never really got to know the neighbours, so I was just the quiet guy next door.
The first time I did it I had a valid reason for doing so. Then I realised it was easy and quite nice having no one know where I was so I did it for my next few places.
Oh, incidentally I've also never registered to vote. That's not in an effort to be secretive (and all registration is correct and open for my current property) but I think I could quite easily do it if I really wanted to.
RobinBanks hey? :scractchin:I also never really got to know the neighbours, so I was just the quiet guy next door.
The first time I did it I had a valid reason for doing so. Then I realised it was easy and quite nice having no one know where I was so I did it for my next few places.
Oh, incidentally I've also never registered to vote. That's not in an effort to be secretive (and all registration is correct and open for my current property) but I think I could quite easily do it if I really wanted to.
Edited by RobinBanks on Monday 20th October 11:09
Pommygranite said:
RobinBanks said:
This (for whatever reason) is what I was thinking of because I've done it several times. A landlord who has met you but doesn't know you. If the money's getting to them reliably, it's not really an issue.
I also never really got to know the neighbours, so I was just the quiet guy next door.
The first time I did it I had a valid reason for doing so. Then I realised it was easy and quite nice having no one know where I was so I did it for my next few places.
Oh, incidentally I've also never registered to vote. That's not in an effort to be secretive (and all registration is correct and open for my current property) but I think I could quite easily do it if I really wanted to.
RobinBanks hey? :scractchin:I also never really got to know the neighbours, so I was just the quiet guy next door.
The first time I did it I had a valid reason for doing so. Then I realised it was easy and quite nice having no one know where I was so I did it for my next few places.
Oh, incidentally I've also never registered to vote. That's not in an effort to be secretive (and all registration is correct and open for my current property) but I think I could quite easily do it if I really wanted to.
Edited by RobinBanks on Monday 20th October 11:09
Nothing exciting sadly. The only time I had a reason to live anonymously was escaping a crazy stalker girl and her father in Paris.
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