Discussion
PurpleMoonlight said:
ali_kat said:
Why? Is it so hard to stop for a few seconds & pay respects to those who fought and those who gave their lives?
Because if they hadn't done that, you'd not have the freedom to choose.
But the whole point is we do have the freedom to choose, and forcing it upon people who choose not to is unacceptable.Because if they hadn't done that, you'd not have the freedom to choose.
I agree it being forced is unacceptable
Showing respect shouldn't be forced, but not showing it says a lot about you
Pebbles167 said:
I think that if people are not especially busy they will likely take part in a silence, especially if those around them intend to also.
That said many people are busy, sometimes you cant just drop everything sadly.
Sorry, it's 11am, can we pick this back up in 2 minutes usually gets a "is that the time, talk in 5" response.That said many people are busy, sometimes you cant just drop everything sadly.
ali_kat said:
Pebbles167 said:
I think that if people are not especially busy they will likely take part in a silence, especially if those around them intend to also.
That said many people are busy, sometimes you cant just drop everything sadly.
Sorry, it's 11am, can we pick this back up in 2 minutes usually gets a "is that the time, talk in 5" response.That said many people are busy, sometimes you cant just drop everything sadly.
I think there are levels of "cant stop" but that's at the individuals discretion.
Jasandjules said:
Yes. It means you show some respect for the many people who gave their lives for the freedom you enjoy today.
Sorry, but that is b
ks.For as long as I have had a say in it I have made sure I am not anywhere public at 11 when the silence is due, I simply can't stand a load of people making a big show of being silent, when a good percentage of them are thinking about what they are going to have for their tea.
I always make a donation in a tin, probably most days between now and when they vanish again but never wear a poppy, and would hazard a guess that I spend more time thinking about the sacrifice of others and being thankful for what I have than a lot of those who make sure everyone else knows they are being quiet for a couple of minutes.
Each to their own. I can't stick businesses using it as a PR stunt though.
ali_kat said:
I'm curious
Those naysayers (as in no poppy, no silence, no respect); what age group are you in & what country where you brought up in please?
It only needs to be a ball park, eg Teens? Twenties? Thirties? England, Scotland, France, Germany, USA?
Why do you feel that no poppy, no silence means no respect?Those naysayers (as in no poppy, no silence, no respect); what age group are you in & what country where you brought up in please?
It only needs to be a ball park, eg Teens? Twenties? Thirties? England, Scotland, France, Germany, USA?
Why do you feel the need to portray your respect annually in such a manner?
Looket said:
No, it doesn't.
And not doing it certainly doesn't mean that you don't 'respect' those who died.
It does mean that you aren't SHOWING respect.And not doing it certainly doesn't mean that you don't 'respect' those who died.
Of course, whether you want to SHOW respect or keep your respect quiet is up to you.
The problem is that if you DON'T show respect, people may assume that you HAVE no respect - which may not be the case.
If these guys died for anything, it was the freedom for those coming after them to chose.
PurpleMoonlight said:
ali_kat said:
I'm curious
Those naysayers (as in no poppy, no silence, no respect); what age group are you in & what country where you brought up in please?
It only needs to be a ball park, eg Teens? Twenties? Thirties? England, Scotland, France, Germany, USA?
Why do you feel that no poppy, no silence means no respect?Those naysayers (as in no poppy, no silence, no respect); what age group are you in & what country where you brought up in please?
It only needs to be a ball park, eg Teens? Twenties? Thirties? England, Scotland, France, Germany, USA?
Why do you feel the need to portray your respect annually in such a manner?
Remembrance is part of modern British life, culture and
heritage. It becomes a particular feature of the public
calendar on or about Remembrance Sunday and
11 November, Armistice Day, each year. This is when
public, private, formal and informal Remembrance events
take place throughout the UK. Millions of people each
year stop what they are doing and observe a Two Minute
Silence at 11 am on the 11th day of the 11th month,
commemorating the original Armistice of 1918 which
signalled the “stilling of arms” and led to the formal
end to the First World War (eventually signed in 1919).
Over 40 million poppies are distributed by The Royal
British Legion every year at the end of October and up
to 11 November. Each and every poppy is a symbol of
Remembrance and hope and millions of people make the
individual choice to wear one.
THE POPPY IS...
• A symbol of Remembrance and hope
• Worn by millions of people
• Red because of the natural colour of field poppies
THE POPPY IS NOT…
• A symbol of death
• A sign of support for war
• A reflection of politics or religion
• Red to reflect the colour of blood
WEARING A POPPY…
• is a personal choice
• reflects individual and personal memories
• is not compulsory
• is appreciated by those it helps
Edited by Troubleatmill on Sunday 26th October 13:18
The last couple of years I've worm wristbands as I find them easier as I don't wear a jacket to work or anywhere else. This year I have a couple of meetings with clients in Novemeber so as well as a new wristband I'll be picking up an enamel poppy pin for the suit as wristbands and suits don't mix as far as I'm concerned.
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