Friends with people who are bad when drunk
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I used to work with a guy who was a workshop receptionist - stocky build, but a bit short, quiet and unassuming. He spent a lot of time at the gym but didn't look like a bulbous meat head.
He wasn't one for drinking, but when he did come on a boozy night out, he was an animal. He'd help himself to drinks by going behind the bar, throwing full pints of lager in the air, pulling the plugs out of the DJ booth, throwing women over his shoulder and running out of the pub with them, and his crowning glory was getting refused entry into a nightclub, so he stripped naked and kicked the crap out of the three doormen.
He warned them that it would be more humiliating for them to be beaten up by a small naked bloke, but they didn't take him seriously. Two of them ended up in hospital, the third ran away, and he spent a night calming down in the cells.
He wasn't one for drinking, but when he did come on a boozy night out, he was an animal. He'd help himself to drinks by going behind the bar, throwing full pints of lager in the air, pulling the plugs out of the DJ booth, throwing women over his shoulder and running out of the pub with them, and his crowning glory was getting refused entry into a nightclub, so he stripped naked and kicked the crap out of the three doormen.
He warned them that it would be more humiliating for them to be beaten up by a small naked bloke, but they didn't take him seriously. Two of them ended up in hospital, the third ran away, and he spent a night calming down in the cells.
Urghhhhh.... This is my missus.
Quiet, shy(ish), non-confrontational, introvert when sober; loud, foot-in-mouth, embarrassing mess when drunk.
Worse still, it takes about 4 pints to reach that stage and there is no talking to her. A very simple case of 1 drink, 2 drinks, 10 drinks, gone.
It wouldn't bother me if it happened when she had drank quite a bit, I'd be drunk as well by that time. The issue is that it happens within an hour or two of drinking and increases exponentially until bedtime. It can be a real nightmare, especially if we are out for a work function.
Still, she is only 22 so I'm hoping it will pass.
Quiet, shy(ish), non-confrontational, introvert when sober; loud, foot-in-mouth, embarrassing mess when drunk.
Worse still, it takes about 4 pints to reach that stage and there is no talking to her. A very simple case of 1 drink, 2 drinks, 10 drinks, gone.
It wouldn't bother me if it happened when she had drank quite a bit, I'd be drunk as well by that time. The issue is that it happens within an hour or two of drinking and increases exponentially until bedtime. It can be a real nightmare, especially if we are out for a work function.
Still, she is only 22 so I'm hoping it will pass.
The Beaver King said:
Urghhhhh.... This is my missus.
Quiet, shy(ish), non-confrontational, introvert when sober; loud, foot-in-mouth, embarrassing mess when drunk.
Worse still, it takes about 4 pints to reach that stage and there is no talking to her. A very simple case of 1 drink, 2 drinks, 10 drinks, gone.
It wouldn't bother me if it happened when she had drank quite a bit, I'd be drunk as well by that time. The issue is that it happens within an hour or two of drinking and increases exponentially until bedtime. It can be a real nightmare, especially if we are out for a work function.
Still, she is only 22 so I'm hoping it will pass.
My wife is a nightmare when properly drunk; argumentative, violent, looking for trouble etc, in the 23 years that we have been together I have only seen it twice, fortunately she is aware of this and is very good about drinking and knows when enough is enough.Quiet, shy(ish), non-confrontational, introvert when sober; loud, foot-in-mouth, embarrassing mess when drunk.
Worse still, it takes about 4 pints to reach that stage and there is no talking to her. A very simple case of 1 drink, 2 drinks, 10 drinks, gone.
It wouldn't bother me if it happened when she had drank quite a bit, I'd be drunk as well by that time. The issue is that it happens within an hour or two of drinking and increases exponentially until bedtime. It can be a real nightmare, especially if we are out for a work function.
Still, she is only 22 so I'm hoping it will pass.
The only downside is she is a nag when I or others drink a bit too much and can be a bit boring in that respect, but then that may be more to do with the fact that I turn into a boring f
ker when I've drunk too much.hora said:
Why is it, someone can be normal bloke or girl sober but when they drink they become wildly inhibited, uncontrollable, aggressive, loud and shouty or all the above and plain embarrassing and a liability?
Throughout growing up you tend to ditch such types or drift away from them naturally.
I married one such type. Nasty drunk and as time wore on a regular drunk. She's an ex wife now.Throughout growing up you tend to ditch such types or drift away from them naturally.
My mother is like this. Sweet normal, caring and friendly person when sober. If she has a couple of drinks, she's fine, but she just needs to have one sip too much and the switch flicks in her head, she can becomes aggressive, boorish, seven foot tall and can kill anything. Alternatively if she's the 'right kind of drunk', she's cuddly and lovely. I've only ever argued with her when she's 'bad' drunk. Problem is she doesn't remember anything that happens when she sobers up.
We've told her that she's like this but she has no 'off' switch when it comes to deciding she's had enough.
I now refuse to talk to her when she's drunk as I know it'll be turned into an argument. That normally starts the argument...
We've told her that she's like this but she has no 'off' switch when it comes to deciding she's had enough.
I now refuse to talk to her when she's drunk as I know it'll be turned into an argument. That normally starts the argument...
S11Steve said:
I used to work with a guy who was a workshop receptionist - stocky build, but a bit short, quiet and unassuming. He spent a lot of time at the gym but didn't look like a bulbous meat head.
He wasn't one for drinking, but when he did come on a boozy night out, he was an animal. He'd help himself to drinks by going behind the bar, throwing full pints of lager in the air, pulling the plugs out of the DJ booth, throwing women over his shoulder and running out of the pub with them, and his crowning glory was getting refused entry into a nightclub, so he stripped naked and kicked the crap out of the three doormen.
He warned them that it would be more humiliating for them to be beaten up by a small naked bloke, but they didn't take him seriously. Two of them ended up in hospital, the third ran away, and he spent a night calming down in the cells.
If that's true you win.....by a country mile ...He wasn't one for drinking, but when he did come on a boozy night out, he was an animal. He'd help himself to drinks by going behind the bar, throwing full pints of lager in the air, pulling the plugs out of the DJ booth, throwing women over his shoulder and running out of the pub with them, and his crowning glory was getting refused entry into a nightclub, so he stripped naked and kicked the crap out of the three doormen.
He warned them that it would be more humiliating for them to be beaten up by a small naked bloke, but they didn't take him seriously. Two of them ended up in hospital, the third ran away, and he spent a night calming down in the cells.
Couple of occasions this has happened and I have managed to filter them from my life.
Group of 4 of us used to go out, 3 of us were were into various martial arts and one was good enough to represent England in his discipline, 4th mate thought this was awesome as he could stir up trouble and we would bail him out and on a few occasions we did, until we sussed him and stood by as he received a much overdue kicking. He refused to come out after that.
An ex used to have a personality transplant after a few drinks, the warning sign was when her voice would drop a couple of octaves, that meant I had a 30 minute window to get her home and tucked up before she kicked off and was either violent against me or some poor sod who had 'slighted' her thankfully she is an ex, one of the many reasons I was attracted to my wife was that when she is drunk she is silly, funny and fun with zero aggression.
Group of 4 of us used to go out, 3 of us were were into various martial arts and one was good enough to represent England in his discipline, 4th mate thought this was awesome as he could stir up trouble and we would bail him out and on a few occasions we did, until we sussed him and stood by as he received a much overdue kicking. He refused to come out after that.
An ex used to have a personality transplant after a few drinks, the warning sign was when her voice would drop a couple of octaves, that meant I had a 30 minute window to get her home and tucked up before she kicked off and was either violent against me or some poor sod who had 'slighted' her thankfully she is an ex, one of the many reasons I was attracted to my wife was that when she is drunk she is silly, funny and fun with zero aggression.
The Beaver King said:
Urghhhhh.... This is my missus.
Quiet, shy(ish), non-confrontational, introvert when sober; loud, foot-in-mouth, embarrassing mess when drunk.
Worse still, it takes about 4 pints to reach that stage and there is no talking to her. A very simple case of 1 drink, 2 drinks, 10 drinks, gone.
It wouldn't bother me if it happened when she had drank quite a bit, I'd be drunk as well by that time. The issue is that it happens within an hour or two of drinking and increases exponentially until bedtime. It can be a real nightmare, especially if we are out for a work function.
Still, she is only 22 so I'm hoping it will pass.
Get rid while (if) you don't have kids yet.Quiet, shy(ish), non-confrontational, introvert when sober; loud, foot-in-mouth, embarrassing mess when drunk.
Worse still, it takes about 4 pints to reach that stage and there is no talking to her. A very simple case of 1 drink, 2 drinks, 10 drinks, gone.
It wouldn't bother me if it happened when she had drank quite a bit, I'd be drunk as well by that time. The issue is that it happens within an hour or two of drinking and increases exponentially until bedtime. It can be a real nightmare, especially if we are out for a work function.
Still, she is only 22 so I'm hoping it will pass.
Or get incontrovertible (video?) evidence to show her when she's sober - perhaps she'll agree to stop at a sensible amount.
Don't hold your breath, though.
handpaper said:
Get rid while (if) you don't have kids yet.
Or get incontrovertible (video?) evidence to show her when she's sober - perhaps she'll agree to stop at a sensible amount.
Don't hold your breath, though.
Or get incontrovertible (video?) evidence to show her when she's sober - perhaps she'll agree to stop at a sensible amount.
Don't hold your breath, though.
Unless you can show her what she is really like she'll always believe it's not as bad as you make out.
I have a friend (okay, actually he is a friend of a friend & we'll call him Mr Q).
Mr Q has a lovely, delightful GF, she is pretty, funny, charming and after years together he is still smitten and loves her deeply.
Her only fault is that after a few drinks she can be "a little feisty" (massively aggressive, fighty, chavvy
). Over the years i've known them she has got more feisty when drunk and it has got worse and worse.
Mr Q was hospitalised one evening due to her being drunk and "a bit feisty", she started a fight and the girl who she beat up had a boyfriend who hit Mr Q with a bottle.
It follows a pattern, she starts getting s
t faced again, something happens because of her actions (generally to him), she stops drinking for a couple of months, she has a glass of wine with dinner occasionally... I haven't seen either for about 3 years but i still get updates as the stuff she does makes for a fine bit of entertainment, especially as it's not me who has to deal with her. Last xmas at the works do she punched a doorman, spent the night in for D&D and was charged for Affray (later dropped due to lack of evidence). We'll see if she can actually get herself a full conviction this year.
Edited by omgus on Thursday 30th October 07:27
StuntmanMike said:
S11Steve said:
I used to work with a guy who was a workshop receptionist - stocky build, but a bit short, quiet and unassuming. He spent a lot of time at the gym but didn't look like a bulbous meat head.
He wasn't one for drinking, but when he did come on a boozy night out, he was an animal. He'd help himself to drinks by going behind the bar, throwing full pints of lager in the air, pulling the plugs out of the DJ booth, throwing women over his shoulder and running out of the pub with them, and his crowning glory was getting refused entry into a nightclub, so he stripped naked and kicked the crap out of the three doormen.
He warned them that it would be more humiliating for them to be beaten up by a small naked bloke, but they didn't take him seriously. Two of them ended up in hospital, the third ran away, and he spent a night calming down in the cells.
If that's true you win.....by a country mile ...He wasn't one for drinking, but when he did come on a boozy night out, he was an animal. He'd help himself to drinks by going behind the bar, throwing full pints of lager in the air, pulling the plugs out of the DJ booth, throwing women over his shoulder and running out of the pub with them, and his crowning glory was getting refused entry into a nightclub, so he stripped naked and kicked the crap out of the three doormen.
He warned them that it would be more humiliating for them to be beaten up by a small naked bloke, but they didn't take him seriously. Two of them ended up in hospital, the third ran away, and he spent a night calming down in the cells.
S11Steve said:
I used to work with a guy who was a workshop receptionist - stocky build, but a bit short, quiet and unassuming. He spent a lot of time at the gym but didn't look like a bulbous meat head.
He wasn't one for drinking, but when he did come on a boozy night out, he was an animal. He'd help himself to drinks by going behind the bar, throwing full pints of lager in the air, pulling the plugs out of the DJ booth, throwing women over his shoulder and running out of the pub with them, and his crowning glory was getting refused entry into a nightclub, so he stripped naked and kicked the crap out of the three doormen.
He warned them that it would be more humiliating for them to be beaten up by a small naked bloke, but they didn't take him seriously. Two of them ended up in hospital, the third ran away, and he spent a night calming down in the cells.
I'd like to have seen that. I've spent a fair bit of time around rough clubs and bars and never seen a small pissed bloke get the better of two doormen, let alone three, and that includes boxers, so-called martial artists (I've seen so many of them laid out I've lost count) and every other type of hard nut. The only times I've seen doormen back down have been when weapons have been involved.He wasn't one for drinking, but when he did come on a boozy night out, he was an animal. He'd help himself to drinks by going behind the bar, throwing full pints of lager in the air, pulling the plugs out of the DJ booth, throwing women over his shoulder and running out of the pub with them, and his crowning glory was getting refused entry into a nightclub, so he stripped naked and kicked the crap out of the three doormen.
He warned them that it would be more humiliating for them to be beaten up by a small naked bloke, but they didn't take him seriously. Two of them ended up in hospital, the third ran away, and he spent a night calming down in the cells.
Aggressive drunks are a pain in the arse. I don't tolerate them as friends and fortunately there are none in my circle. It's always in the back of my mind when going out for the first time with people I don't know and as soon as you see the first warning signs your heart sinks. The female versions are worse in a way, as even when pissed they will try and hide behind their gender to do and say things that would result in a few lost teeth if said or done by a male.
handpaper said:
Get rid while (if) you don't have kids yet.
Or get incontrovertible (video?) evidence to show her when she's sober - perhaps she'll agree to stop at a sensible amount.
Don't hold your breath, though.
It's not quite that serious yet, but I appreciate the advice.Or get incontrovertible (video?) evidence to show her when she's sober - perhaps she'll agree to stop at a sensible amount.
Don't hold your breath, though.
We've had a couple of conversations regarding her 'attitude' when she gets too drunk; she is genuinely embarrassed the next morning. The main problem is that she doesn't generally eat before going out and drinks beer like water, never a good combination.
I've found mentioning her taking it easy before going out tends to make her more aware, but can create a bit of an atmosphere.
I have a mate who used to fall into this category.
He is a pretty big bloke so when he'd had a few beers he used to use his size to intimidate other people & 'start' on them for 'staring' at him, that kind of thing. Only problem was he couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag & would rely on the fact his 'victims' wouldn't react because of his size & he got away with this for years. We (his mates) tried to tell him he is being a tt etc & we wouldn't bail him out if he got a hiding.
Anyway, at the end of one night when he was on his own he saw a small bloke having an argument with his bird outside a club. My mate went & stuck his nose in & got kicked in the head (round-house is the technical term I believe) & knocked out!
It was actually the best thing that ever happened, completely changed his attitude after this & even shakes the hand of the round-house-er when he sees him!
He is a pretty big bloke so when he'd had a few beers he used to use his size to intimidate other people & 'start' on them for 'staring' at him, that kind of thing. Only problem was he couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag & would rely on the fact his 'victims' wouldn't react because of his size & he got away with this for years. We (his mates) tried to tell him he is being a t
t etc & we wouldn't bail him out if he got a hiding.Anyway, at the end of one night when he was on his own he saw a small bloke having an argument with his bird outside a club. My mate went & stuck his nose in & got kicked in the head (round-house is the technical term I believe) & knocked out!
It was actually the best thing that ever happened, completely changed his attitude after this & even shakes the hand of the round-house-er when he sees him!
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