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spikey78

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701 posts

181 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Since when did this non-word become part of the English language?
I keep seeing it, is everyone American or just thick?
It's not a fking word so stop fking using the fker you bunch of s
Mini-rant over

Fluid

1,728 posts

185 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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You really should have gotten over this by now.

BrassMan

1,484 posts

189 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Ill gotten gains?

It's an archaism o'er here, but not over there.

motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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It is at least as old as Elizabethan but has/had largely fallen into disuse - like faucet - in England.

Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Amuses me that people think English is a static language.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Theirs alot of it around

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Someone has gotten out of the wrong side of the bed this morning.

Squawk1066

2,941 posts

171 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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It drives me up the wall when I am in the US, purely because they like to shorten most other words, but use gotten instead of got.

motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Squawk1066 said:
It drives me up the wall when I am in the US, purely because they like to shorten most other words, but use gotten instead of got.
When will the ubiquitous McDonalds customer say: "Can I getten a Big Mac"

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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spikey78 said:
Since when did this non-word become part of the English language?
It always has been, the word has it's origins in old English - it's use has simply fallen out of favour in Britain.

Of course - language evolves over time - there is no reason it's use can't undergo a revival.

John D.

17,851 posts

209 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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motco said:
Squawk1066 said:
It drives me up the wall when I am in the US, purely because they like to shorten most other words, but use gotten instead of got.
When will the ubiquitous McDonalds customer say: "Can I getten a Big Mac"
hehe

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Look it, you've gotten all wound up for nowt.

TheAngryDog

12,407 posts

209 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engli...

Seems to have gotten into the Dictionary wink

spikey78

Original Poster:

701 posts

181 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Hot dang, I've gone and gotten myself told

motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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spikey78 said:
Hot dang, I've gone and gotten myself told
biggrin

Remember ambwlans...

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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motco said:
spikey78 said:
Hot dang, I've gone and gotten myself told
biggrin

Remember ambwlans...
AMBIWLANS....I think you meant.

It's Welsh ......blah blah blah.

jagracer

8,248 posts

236 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Do you really need to arks about language evolving?

wildcat45

8,073 posts

189 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Perhaps the OP picked on the wrong word, but evolving language or not, certain terms although correct can be annoying.

Why did railway stations become train stations? It's not wrong, but to me it sounds childish, like something a little kid as yet without an extensive vocabulary would use.

Mummy "What did we do? We went on a.....?". Kid "Twain". Mummy "That's right, and where did we get the train
?". Kid "Twain station?". Mummy "That's right the train station"

To me it sounds as odd as a grown up saying "Horsy" or "Moo cow" or "Bunny rabbit" when talking normally.

I am glad English evolves, but I guess (see I used an Americanism which will annoy some) it's not always for the best.

I have American family, one of whom came to live in the UK. A common language, so far apart. She was staying at our house when I was about 15. I'd had a teenage strop with my mum. She defused the disagreement unintentionally by stating "You two have been fighting all morning". Me and my mum burst out laughing. Fighting? Like we had been slugging it out, punch for punch occasionally resorting to baseball bats from time to time."

To her fighting meant arguing.

When I was at University (Not Uni because I am not in an Aussie soap) the same American relative kept asking me how I was finding school?

But our language does evolve, for good and bad, from the rising inflection of antipodean origin from TV shows like neighbours, to Indian slang like Pukka from the days of empire to terms from Shakespeare Del Boy and Arfur Dailey.





Edited by wildcat45 on Saturday 1st November 16:35


Edited by wildcat45 on Saturday 1st November 16:37

littleredrooster

5,538 posts

196 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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jagracer said:
Do you really need to arks about language evolving?
But 'gotten' isn't an evolution, though! It was a common word in Shakespearian days which has come and gone over the years.

I do agree, however, that it's a bit of an 'Americanism' at the moment.

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

186 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Grow.

A word that is increasingly used in phrases like, "Grow your business".

You grow plants, not f@cking businesses!