THE Winter jacket recommendations

THE Winter jacket recommendations

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Lotus Notes

1,200 posts

191 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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I have a Yeti Wave from Warmth Unlimited and a Rab Neutrino.

The Rab saved my life in Mexico, but the Yeti is compact and is used for ski touring. Either with a shell is excellent.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Nigel Cabourn Everest Parker.

Amazing.

Farking Expensive.

Deisel Weisel

2,535 posts

184 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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desolate said:
Nigel Cabourn Everest Parker.

Amazing.

Farking Expensive.
£2499? redcard

CR6ZZ

1,313 posts

145 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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http://www.earthseasky.co.nz/ecw-antarctica-jacket...

As good as Canada Goose at slightly lower price and not so look-at-me.

nigelpugh7

6,038 posts

190 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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I have last years version of this jacket.

http://www.cpcompany.co.uk/collections/coats-jacke...

It's been an exclent and very warm jacket, even on our yearly outing to Sweden/Norway for the WRC rally event, that have been down as low as -30 degrees!

It can be a bit too warm in the UK, so you tend to just wear one layer underneath it.

The inbuilt goggles always makes for a good pub debate too!

NRS

22,163 posts

201 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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hora said:
I've got a North Face Hy-Vent(?) Jacket. A couple of Montane jackets- one thats like wearing a sleeping bag.

None of these do it for me. Just 'ok'.


What I want is something akin to returning to the womb. Can be thrown on from the muddy boot of the car in -15degrees, thrown on in a Welsh cold remote carpark after a long day out in the outdoors, can be worn down the high st in a wet blizzard etc etc.

Recommendations? I want it last 10yrs.

Not a Snugpak- too builder/armyish smile

Edited by hora on Tuesday 11th November 19:57
Sounds like you might be wanting two different jackets. The -15C stuff indicates more down jackets - much warmer and lighter. However down is a bad idea if it will get wet. The other thing is any jacket that is good enough quality to last for 10 years and go down to -15C will be very expensive. So you probably wouldn't want to wear it everyday going to town.

I'd probably go for a down midlayer, with a hard shell jacket to go on top of it for when you need the waterproofing.

croyde

22,898 posts

230 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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rash_decision said:
A North Face McMurdo Parka. Best winter jacket/coat I've owned.
Thanks to similar threads in previous years I bought an Abercrombie and Fitch Mount Washington Jacket which is super warm but not waterproof, well I haven't got wet but it soaks up the water, so then got a McMurdo.

Bought it at a discount last winter but only wore it twice as then the temp went above 5 degrees biggrin

Best jacket for standing around watching my kids play in the park but not the best for walking in if it's only cold not freezing.

To be honest it has not had the true test of doing my job outdoors in the Winter as up to now I have not found any combination that has kept me warm whilst not moving much for hours on end. Hopefully the McMurdo will prove it's worth.

As an aside, I have found all coats with hoods pretty useless for seeing where you are going and not having the thing flop over your eyes every few minutes unless you wear a baseball cap as well, cold Northern American States/Canada style.

ETA My Nupste Northface down jacket is good enough for most UK urban cold situations and it packs down into it's own pocket. Tend to find that all I need underneath is a t-shirt or shirt on a 3 mile walk to the pub mid winter.


Edited by croyde on Wednesday 12th November 08:44

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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If you want serious versatility, have a look at the Montane Prism.

Waterproof, windproof and insulated but very very lightweight and it packs down into one of the pockets. More warmth can be gained by wearing layers underneath, which is part of the versatility. The hood is insulated too, and has a visor & drawcord to adjust the hood fitment (fixing Croyde's complaint above about hoods)

There's a reason that these jackets are popular with mountain rescue teams, such is the versatility. I was at a climbing competition a couple of weekends ago, and I had to be careful where I left the jacket - there was so many of them about!

Living in Scotland, and spending a lot of time up the hills, I have a lot of outdoor kit, and more expensive jackets than my Prism, but I love it and is the most versatile jacket I've ever had. I'd argue that the Prism and similar are the only jacket you need in lowland, urban Britain.

It was £100 quid when I bought mine, but they can now be had for circa 60-80 quid, which IMO, makes it an absolute no-brainer.

skilly1

2,702 posts

195 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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TheJimi said:
If you want serious versatility, have a look at the Montane Prism.

Waterproof, windproof and insulated but very very lightweight and it packs down into one of the pockets. More warmth can be gained by wearing layers underneath, which is part of the versatility. The hood is insulated too, and has a visor & drawcord to adjust the hood fitment (fixing Croyde's complaint above about hoods)

There's a reason that these jackets are popular with mountain rescue teams, such is the versatility. I was at a climbing competition a couple of weekends ago, and I had to be careful where I left the jacket - there was so many of them about!

Living in Scotland, and spending a lot of time up the hills, I have a lot of outdoor kit, and more expensive jackets than my Prism, but I love it and is the most versatile jacket I've ever had. I'd argue that the Prism and similar are the only jacket you need in lowland, urban Britain.

It was £100 quid when I bought mine, but they can now be had for circa 60-80 quid, which IMO, makes it an absolute no-brainer.
I like the sound of this jacket - would it be any good for skiing in Jan or not warm enough?

croyde

22,898 posts

230 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Thanks Jimi as I need to replace my Northface waterproof lightweight jacket and the one you mentioned looks perfect and a similar if not cheaper price.

TheJimi

24,986 posts

243 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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skilly1 said:
TheJimi said:
If you want serious versatility, have a look at the Montane Prism.

Waterproof, windproof and insulated but very very lightweight and it packs down into one of the pockets. More warmth can be gained by wearing layers underneath, which is part of the versatility. The hood is insulated too, and has a visor & drawcord to adjust the hood fitment (fixing Croyde's complaint above about hoods)

There's a reason that these jackets are popular with mountain rescue teams, such is the versatility. I was at a climbing competition a couple of weekends ago, and I had to be careful where I left the jacket - there was so many of them about!

Living in Scotland, and spending a lot of time up the hills, I have a lot of outdoor kit, and more expensive jackets than my Prism, but I love it and is the most versatile jacket I've ever had. I'd argue that the Prism and similar are the only jacket you need in lowland, urban Britain.

It was £100 quid when I bought mine, but they can now be had for circa 60-80 quid, which IMO, makes it an absolute no-brainer.
I like the sound of this jacket - would it be any good for skiing in Jan or not warm enough?
Depends on the individual, how your body reacts, and what you're wearing underneath it. I don't ski, so I'm probably not best placed to answer that really.

supertouring

2,228 posts

233 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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I bought a Jack Wolfskin Anchorage Parka in Feb this year at half price.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00E4XUZTA/ref=wl_it_dp...

Started wearing it last week and it is as warm as toast, way too many pockets and kept me dry in a thunderous downpour.

Rosscow

8,767 posts

163 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Buy a decent technical fleece for the cold weather and a decent water proof jacket.

I've got a Rab Mountain Dru jacket which is brilliant as it's not too hot (at the moment just a t-shirt or jumper at most underneath) but it's light enough and thin enough to accommodate a decent fleece underneath should the weather get that cold.

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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One of these...hello, sailor. wink




BrabusMog

20,146 posts

186 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Chim said:
Here you go Hora, thread can be closed now

Canada Goose

http://www.countryattire.com/canada-goose-men-s-ex...
Canada Goose stuff is good, I like it.

I guess it depends on budget etc, but CP Company and Stone Island do some really nice double layered jackets with detachable inners for when it isn't as cold. Paul & Shark have some good stuff, too, as do Moncler although I haven't worn any of my Moncler stuff since I saw James May wearing a jacket on a show he did recently!

Edited by BrabusMog on Wednesday 12th November 12:01

jesta1865

3,448 posts

209 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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well not being a lottery winner, i haven't tried half of the above, i do however have a version of this coat.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Craghoppers-Gore-Tex-Jacke...

you can zip in and out a fleece that came with it, and it's comfortable way down, in fact if it gets much abouve 10c i'm sweltering, but i am a bulky lad.

mine is a bit older as the pockets have changed now, but i've had it since 2009 and it still looks brand new (bit grubby round the cuffs, throwing sticks for the dog).

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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CR6ZZ said:
http://www.earthseasky.co.nz/ecw-antarctica-jacket...

As good as Canada Goose at slightly lower price and not so look-at-me.
Has to be way too excessive for the UK (and I don't mean the price tag)!

Are you expecting this... hehe


BrabusMog

20,146 posts

186 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Chim said:
Here you go Hora, thread can be closed now

Canada Goose

http://www.countryattire.com/canada-goose-men-s-ex...
Canada Goose stuff is good, I like it.

I guess it depends on budget etc, but CP Company and Stone Island do some really nice double layered jackets with detachable inners for when it isn't as cold. Paul & Shark have some good stuff, too, as do Moncler although I haven't worn any of my Moncler stuff since I saw James May wearing a jacket on a show he did recently!

Edited by BrabusMog on Wednesday 12th November 12:01

NRS

22,163 posts

201 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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hora said:
NRS said:
Sounds like you might be wanting two different jackets. The -15C stuff indicates more down jackets - much warmer and lighter. However down is a bad idea if it will get wet. The other thing is any jacket that is good enough quality to last for 10 years and go down to -15C will be very expensive. So you probably wouldn't want to wear it everyday going to town.

I'd probably go for a down midlayer, with a hard shell jacket to go on top of it for when you need the waterproofing.
Most of the time I'm in my car- I hate layering up unless its thin icebreakers with a Gillet for actual exercise in cold weather. The one-stop jacket appeals in this respect. Its to keep me warm when I'm not really moving enough to generate my own heat (camping middle of the night walking about in Europe/Lakes) etc. When I'm moving moving I don't need much on. If that makes sense?

I imagine a down to -15 jacket is a range down to not actually at all the time? some of the above are firmly fashion jackets- the CP etc. I liked the McMurdo- it was actually good by NorthFace (I dont like their other stuff) but its discontinued now I think. I also don't like big logos. The PHD logo is naff enough to pass smile
It depends a bit on the company in regards to how good the down is. There is generally 2 ways to make down jackets, one is cheaper but less warm, the other is better but more expensive. If it's for standing around I'd go for down. Ski jackets probably aren't that great (at least at that temperature) since they're designed to be worn when moving around a lot more, not lots of standing around. I don't think you'll get a waterproof jacket that is ok for standing around in those temperatures though.

I have a Canada Goose jacket for being around town and standing outside for long periods of time (taking pictures of northern lights). For on-piste skiing I have a relatively cheap Norheim jacket. For randonne skiing I have a Mammut Nordwand Pro jacket - absolutely awesome in terms of breathability, waterproofness and quality (not wearing out etc). However it's missing the warmth. I use it for the walking, then stick a fleece/ down midlayer on underneath when standing around. It's also great in the UK style rain - never had another jacket that continues to keep out the rain, rather than giving up after an hour or two (and it gets rid of sweat, so avoiding the problem of you keeping out the rain but getting wet from sweating in a bin bag).

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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TeaNoSugar said:
Ever tried anything by Buffalo? I know lots of lads in my line of work swear by them ( they're often working outdoors and/or at night, in all weathers and seasons), especially the mountain shirt.

This one should be warm enough for you; http://www.buffalosystems.co.uk/products/mountain-...
Saw Ray Mears on TV t'other night & noticed that's what he was wearing.

My OH just bought me a Rab down jacket as an early Xmas present, did like the North Face parka but £330 & really wasn't sure I'd get that much use out of it - lovely though.

Edited by LordHaveMurci on Wednesday 12th November 13:47