How Would You Feel If I Did This To Your Child.
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I was bitten by a dog when I was kid. Nice head wound, ripped a strip of my left ear and a few puncture wounds in my hands where I put them up to protect my face. It happened because the owners kids were ill disciplined and consequently teased the dog mercilessly. The day that one of them kicked a football at the dog, I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and it bit me.
So I fully support giving a kid a bking for stupid behaviour around dogs because a dogs patience will eventually snap and they will lash out. If it was my kid and I saw you giving them a justifiable bking, I would give you a pat on the back.
So I fully support giving a kid a bking for stupid behaviour around dogs because a dogs patience will eventually snap and they will lash out. If it was my kid and I saw you giving them a justifiable bking, I would give you a pat on the back.
Bluebarge said:
softtop said:
disagree, they are seeing the emotion of the situation. No one hit them, how do you think dogs deal with naughty young ones, snarl but no attack
Interesting. Do you model all your behaviours on what a dog would do? Story was there were three children; two boys, and a girl. They were all dog daft and ran excitedly to every dog they saw, crowded it and not so much petted it but enthusiastically smacked it on the head. every aspect of their approach to dogs was wrong so I started patiently ramming home that dogs should be approached at walking speed, calmly and quietly. The owners permission to touch the dog should be asked before getting too close and if given the child should crouch down to the dog's level with a flat hand outstretched for the dog to sniff and the dog should come to the children rather than the kids go to the dog. Once petting the dog they should be quiet, calm, gentle and not make any sudden moves or loud sounds.
Two of them got it and were great, the third (who seemed to be in a state of permanent overstimulation didn't). Wee bugger had me a bag of nerves every time he met a dog and I reckoned it was only a matter of time before he got a sore one.
Eventually I told him if he approached a dog the wrong way if the dog didn't bite him I would. Like I said, he never listened and it was only a matter of time before he ran up behind a West Highland Terrier and petted it on the back. Wee thing jumped it got such a fright and being a man of my word I bit him (hard enough to hurt and startle but not hard enough to mark or draw blood.
Critics can say what they like to which I have one reply, a reply to which there is no argument, IT WORKED. He never rushed a dog again. His mum and father's partner weren't too pleased but strangely enough his father approved wholeheartedly with a "better to get bit by Tanned than a dog" attitude.
TBH. Good work, well done. Someone needs to say this stuff,,even if the dirtbag in question is a child. Scare them young, maybe they grow up more law abiding. Imagine if the dog had have gone wild, what would young snot bubble have done then? Laughed? bd. And bd parents. And bds who talk big on the Internet about 'doing the same to you'. Unjustifiable protective parents boil my piss. No wonder their kids are feral scum.
HertsBiker said:
TBH. Good work, well done. Someone needs to say this stuff,,even if the dirtbag in question is a child. Scare them young, maybe they grow up more law abiding. Imagine if the dog had have gone wild, what would young snot bubble have done then? Laughed? bd. And bd parents. And bds who talk big on the Internet about 'doing the same to you'. Unjustifiable protective parents boil my piss. No wonder their kids are feral scum.
The kid in question wasn't a dirtbag or feral scum in need of Deathwish III style discipline. Just an arse of a wee boy (which being fare most wee boys tend to be) who did something thoughtless and stupid. He possibly didn't cop on to the fact what he did was as nasty and cruel. I hope I wasn't that scary. More a case of making him very very aware of what he did, how nasty it was, how dangerous it could have been and that passing adults don't always walk on by. Don't usually run around as some sort of frustrated BiB and take a boys will be boys attitude to a lot of low level nonsense kids get up to that annoy the more "zipped up" members of society. Unfortunately for matey boy he did what he did more or less under my nose and it gave me such a shock I reacted.Absolutely nothing wrong with your actions.
The Snot bubbles are probably the result of being taken to task for his actions for the first time!
Commended as if that dog had snapped at that particular time you might have been holding that kids face together till the paramedics arrive.
Not an exaggeration soft PHers! Dogs flip out over far less and you are quite literally in some cases picking up pieces after!
The Snot bubbles are probably the result of being taken to task for his actions for the first time!
Commended as if that dog had snapped at that particular time you might have been holding that kids face together till the paramedics arrive.
Not an exaggeration soft PHers! Dogs flip out over far less and you are quite literally in some cases picking up pieces after!
It sounds like you went too far.
Kids do things that they don't really understand the implications of. I think you were right to let him know what could have happened and how much of a stupid thing it was to do. It probably never occurred to him what could have happened.
But to get aggressive with a kid and issue a bking like that was not your place IMHO.
In answer to your question - If you did that to my child then I would have gone ballistic and done something I would regret (then calm down and wonder if I had gone too far
Kids do things that they don't really understand the implications of. I think you were right to let him know what could have happened and how much of a stupid thing it was to do. It probably never occurred to him what could have happened.
But to get aggressive with a kid and issue a bking like that was not your place IMHO.
In answer to your question - If you did that to my child then I would have gone ballistic and done something I would regret (then calm down and wonder if I had gone too far
slow_poke said:
Has anyone checked Mumsnet yet for what the kid's mum has to say about the bad man?
Major handbag fight. Half of them would say I was quite right, Half would have me locked up or beaten by their powerfully built company director husbands. Basically it would be a bit like here. Then again women can er on the overprotective side when it come to external discipline. I good example was when I bit my step-son. Dad was cool, his partner wasn't so pragmatic, mum (my partner) was a bit of an arse about it as well.Bluebarge said:
WestyCarl said:
Sorry, too harsh in my opinion. Maybe I'm a sotfie liberal but kids shouldn't be shouted at to be turned into snivelling wrecks. (in my opinion it teaches them how to be abbusive themselves)
+1 10yo did what stupid 10 yo's do.
A ticking off would have been sufficient but to get enraged shows that you have the behaviour issues not him. Your track record of roaring at primary school kids is not impressive.
FredClogs said:
You're out of order, mind you're own business you grouchy old fart, does it make you feel like a man making little kids cry? You're a bully.
No it didn't make me feel like a man. If I felt like a man I'd have strode off, powerfully built chest puffed out with pride thinking to myself "well done, that's that little bugger now knowing what's what and who's boss" rather than skulking off wondering if I went too far. I didn't look for or expect tears and was kind of surprised by the kid's reaction.Tannedbaldhead said:
FredClogs said:
You're out of order, mind you're own business you grouchy old fart, does it make you feel like a man making little kids cry? You're a bully.
No it didn't make me feel like a man. If I felt like a man I'd have strode off, powerfully built chest puffed out with pride thinking to myself "well done, that's that little bugger now knowing what's what and who's boss" rather than skulking off wondering if I went too far. I didn't look for or expect tears and was kind of surprised by the kid's reaction.FredClogs said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
FredClogs said:
You're out of order, mind you're own business you grouchy old fart, does it make you feel like a man making little kids cry? You're a bully.
No it didn't make me feel like a man. If I felt like a man I'd have strode off, powerfully built chest puffed out with pride thinking to myself "well done, that's that little bugger now knowing what's what and who's boss" rather than skulking off wondering if I went too far. I didn't look for or expect tears and was kind of surprised by the kid's reaction.FredClogs said:
Well at least you're self aware enough to realise you were in the wrong, maybe you need an outlet for your aggression or some strategies for coping under stress. You failed yourself, both the boys, provided a poor role model and most of all put yourself at risk (I would have taken you to task, and my missus would have fked you up), you lost control.
OP in principle id have to agree with what you did.
I think the country would be a better place if people were a bit more sort of old fashioned. A lot of kids and grown ups these days seem to have no manners, respect for other people / property.
Ok the lad was just messing about ( although why anyone would find that funny is beyond me ) sounds like you went a little ott but at least he wont forget his talking to.
Having said all that if im honest im not sure how id react if I saw someone talking to one of my kids like that. Hopefully I have brought my kids up not to do something so stupid in the first place.
I think the country would be a better place if people were a bit more sort of old fashioned. A lot of kids and grown ups these days seem to have no manners, respect for other people / property.
Ok the lad was just messing about ( although why anyone would find that funny is beyond me ) sounds like you went a little ott but at least he wont forget his talking to.
Having said all that if im honest im not sure how id react if I saw someone talking to one of my kids like that. Hopefully I have brought my kids up not to do something so stupid in the first place.
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