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DottyMR2

478 posts

127 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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CountZero23 said:
DottyMR2 said:
Thanks CountZero, you're right cutting me some slack would have been the thing to do, espeically if she actually wanted to make it work.

We were happy together with nothing wrong with the realtionship, all signs pointy to going to go far then overnight, after some big massive love message etc. I got ditched at the airport when we were meant to be going away for my birthday for the weekend. I still get really nervous when going away with people to this day.

She does just seem to have a talent for crushing me. Cutting contact might be the best thing, this wierd sort of friends thing we have but any time we are both single we meet up probably isn't healthy. That's a hard thing though, bringing myself to cut contact.

At least 1 plus point, I don't have any crippling fear of talking to people. I nearly got out last year after she screamed at me I only wanted sex and she hated me, that made it easier with a bit of anger there. A few one nighters and I was getting there. Then just when I thought I was out, she pulled me back in! This year I've gone backwards but I suppose I just have to accept she doesn't want me, doesn't appreicate me so I should find someone who does. Gave it a try, hopefully someone else out there will appreicate me.
Mate, there is a very clear pattern here.

Totally messed up about my ex, she's finally leaving today after 3 weeks of living togther post split. First time in 5 months I'll be coming back to an empty house. Feel like doing anything to have her stay or get her back but from painful experience unless it's some drunken row - when you finish with some one - never go back. All the same issues will be there with a whole lot less trust.

I have a 6 month rule with ex's where I won't meet up with them. Gives you a good amount of time to get over your feelings for them and you'll probably be worried about the next relationship you've been pulled into.

You need to break off ALL contact until you can move on. Breaking up is painful but dragging it out over years and still having all these feelings is just going to fk your head up.

She has a serious case of the MENTAL and now is the time to cut her out.

Lot's of other awesome girls out there. Doesn't feel like that after a breakup and I don't feel like that at all right now, but I know it's true!!
Feel for you mate, can't imagine what it's like with the extra factor of living together to deal with. How did it go yesterday?

Not a drunken row as such, just a freak out but it had been building up and she had a total break down, she was going to be sectioned etc. Best to just not think about it all. The trust thing is probably the problem, not something that couldn't be overcome like cheating but it would take work.

Cutting off is hard if she contacts me, she'll probably do that less and less as time goes on which will make it easier.

You've got a wiser head on your shoulders than me. Hope everything goes well for you, as you say, other women out there!

Edited by DottyMR2 on Wednesday 10th December 10:44

CountZero23

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1,288 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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DottyMR2 said:
Feel for you mate, can't imagine what it's like with the extra factor of living together to deal with. How did it go yesterday?

Not a drunken row as such, just a freak out but it had been building up and she had a total break down, she was going to be sectioned etc. Best to just not think about it all. The trust thing is probably the problem, not something that couldn't be overcome like cheating but it would take work.

You've got a wiser head on your shoulders than me. Hope everything goes well for you, as you say, other women out there!
Cheers fella, said it before but venting on PH has been a real help. It's good know you're not the only one going through the mill.

Last few weeks have been the hardest I've had to go through in a long time, coming back to a house with her in it just reminded me of what I was losing.

She had left when I got back last night, she sent a sweet text saying how it had been a great 5 months living with me and how she would miss it all. Sent a nice one back along the same lines.

Was really odd, totally empty house - would usually come back to a smile a hug and some banter about who was going to do the cooking. Just boxes of her stuff stacked up for when she finds a permanent place to live.

Hit the gym and sent out a few half arsed messages on Tinder but my heart is so not in it right now. Ended up having a bit of a flirt with a cute personal trainer who was on reception at the gym which cheered me up smile Going to take a few weeks / months to adjust back to single life and things still really suck right now.

DottyMR2 said:
Cutting off is hard if she contacts me, she'll probably do that less and less as time goes on which will make it easier.
Stop putting the ball in her court; you need to take back control of your life. If she knows she can behave badly and just call you up and you'll come running back then she has 0 respect for you and this must be killing your self-esteem too. It always takes a battering after a breakup but stretching it out like this is just going to mess your views of women up.

Know plenty of guys who have had a bad experience with some MENTAL case and then end up bitter misogynists who can't trust any women (same thing happens with girls too). Don't let her mess you up.

The one thing that's been getting me through this that I always had doubts if we had a long term future. My ex had her share of issues and when you ask yourself if you could sign yourself up for 40+ years and have serious doubts then you need to drop her. You will just be wasting time, don't know how old you are but if you do want to find the right girl then you need to move on.


Does this girl really feel like the one you want to get hitched to for the rest of your days?

If you do get hitched and do the house / kids things do you think there is a good chance st will hit the fan and you'll be left living in a bedsit paying a mortgage on a house for her, your kids and whatever new fella she's moved onto?







n90acc

126 posts

176 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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MontyC said:
You drive a civic and probably live with your parents due to student debts, yeah great catch!
Meow!

Your speculation is off on all 3, plus....I was just being funny. hardyhar.

I still can be a great catch if those were true. We are all great catches in our own way. Including the OP - get the hell out there, in the grand scheme of life on earth and human existence, talking to a female is nothing, just DO...think less...get a few knock backs so you're not scared of rejection and eventually you will get someone great. Goodluck!




Edited by n90acc on Wednesday 10th December 13:32

LukeDM

467 posts

123 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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6 months for me but I moved 350 miles the day after!

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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n90acc said:
Including the OP - get the hell out there, in the grand scheme of life on earth and human existence, talking to a female is nothing, just DO...think less...get a few knock backs so you're not scared of rejection and eventually you will get someone great. Goodluck!
AKA: scattergun.

"Hi, fancy a shag?"
"No."
/shrugs and turns/


"Hi, fancy a shag?"
"No."
/shrugs and turns/

"Hi, fancy a shag?"
"No."
/shrugs and turns/

//Repeat to fade...

n90acc

126 posts

176 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Impasse said:
AKA: scattergun.

"Hi, fancy a shag?"
"No."
/shrugs and turns/


"Hi, fancy a shag?"
"No."
/shrugs and turns/

"Hi, fancy a shag?"
"No."
/shrugs and turns/

//Repeat to fade...
biglaugh
Maybe a slightly better opening line??


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Edited by n90acc on Thursday 11th December 12:45

crofty1984

15,858 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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croyde said:
Broke up with my wife NYE 2008.

Still alone, still working whenever I can to pay all the bills, child maintenance, the mortgage etc while I waste my rainy day money an eye watering rent for a tiny one bedroom flat in order to be near the kids.

Life is pretty miserable, I'm in my 50s, everyone I know is part of a couple and Christmas just makes things worse. Just need to know that there are others like me, not all this 'I split but then met the woman of my dreams' malarkey.

Hang on! the title said Recently Single, so I am in the wrong thread.

getmecoat
Well, you were single last week. Last week was pretty recent. It doesn't say recently become single. smile

DottyMR2

478 posts

127 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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CountZero23 said:
Cheers fella, said it before but venting on PH has been a real help. It's good know you're not the only one going through the mill.

Last few weeks have been the hardest I've had to go through in a long time, coming back to a house with her in it just reminded me of what I was losing.

She had left when I got back last night, she sent a sweet text saying how it had been a great 5 months living with me and how she would miss it all. Sent a nice one back along the same lines.

Was really odd, totally empty house - would usually come back to a smile a hug and some banter about who was going to do the cooking. Just boxes of her stuff stacked up for when she finds a permanent place to live.

Hit the gym and sent out a few half arsed messages on Tinder but my heart is so not in it right now. Ended up having a bit of a flirt with a cute personal trainer who was on reception at the gym which cheered me up smile Going to take a few weeks / months to adjust back to single life and things still really suck right now.

Stop putting the ball in her court; you need to take back control of your life. If she knows she can behave badly and just call you up and you'll come running back then she has 0 respect for you and this must be killing your self-esteem too. It always takes a battering after a breakup but stretching it out like this is just going to mess your views of women up.

Know plenty of guys who have had a bad experience with some MENTAL case and then end up bitter misogynists who can't trust any women (same thing happens with girls too). Don't let her mess you up.

The one thing that's been getting me through this that I always had doubts if we had a long term future. My ex had her share of issues and when you ask yourself if you could sign yourself up for 40+ years and have serious doubts then you need to drop her. You will just be wasting time, don't know how old you are but if you do want to find the right girl then you need to move on.


Does this girl really feel like the one you want to get hitched to for the rest of your days?

If you do get hitched and do the house / kids things do you think there is a good chance st will hit the fan and you'll be left living in a bedsit paying a mortgage on a house for her, your kids and whatever new fella she's moved onto?
Is there a storage place nearby her stuff could be put into to save it being there/seeing it? Might make it a bit easier and cleaner break now that she is out. Could avoid the awkward pick her stuff up day too.

No rush for things, possibly some people's and my own problems, trying to plug a hole rather than dealing with things. A bit of flirting is always a wee boost though.

No it's not great for my self esteem, although I don't too bad wih that really, better than when I was younger though! I see your point, probably been a bit of the problem. Tried to be supportive and it went too far and just became a crutch.
I did seriously think I would spend 40+ years with her while we were together. What has happened though after the breakup and seeing another side to her I suppose put things in perspective. Touches on my point above about plugging a hole. It's actually pretty twisted to tell me that all those guys were just an attempt to replace me. Has kind of made me see the games played.
Chalk it up to life experience and try to forget about it. It's not going to turn me into some bitter bd though! Feels a bit of a waste but I suppose you just have to take chances on these things.

Taking time to adjust is good, enjoy some of the free time you have before filling it with someone else!

Edited by DottyMR2 on Thursday 11th December 15:44

CountZero23

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1,288 posts

178 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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DottyMR2 said:
Is there a storage place nearby her stuff could be put into to save it being there/seeing it? Might make it a bit easier and cleaner break now that she is out. Could avoid the awkward pick her stuff up day too.
She's a skint mature student and will have enough issues getting the cash together for a new place let alone storage and getting it there. Still coming over to do washing and get some space away from the girl who's sofa she's crashing on while I'm at work. Told her this was cool, no need to make things harder on the girl. Should be over by christmas...

DottyMR2 said:
No rush for things, possibly some people's and my own problems, trying to plug a hole rather than dealing with things. A bit of flirting is always a wee boost though.
Totally with you on plugging the hole, everything just feels empty without her. Planning on taking some time out, just hit the gym and avoid going out for a bit until I'm back on form (we'll forget my drunken indiscretion after being dumped wink).

DottyMR2 said:
No it's not great for my self esteem, although I don't too bad wih that really, better than when I was younger though! I see your point, probably been a bit of the problem. Tried to be supportive and it went too far and just became a crutch.
I did seriously think I would spend 40+ years with her while we were together. What has happened though after the breakup and seeing another side to her I suppose put things in perspective. Touches on my point above about plugging a hole. It's actually pretty twisted to tell me that all those guys were just an attempt to replace me. Has kind of made me see the games played.
Chalk it up to life experience and try to forget about it. It's not going to turn me into some bitter bd though! Feels a bit of a waste but I suppose you just have to take chances on these things.

Taking time to adjust is good, enjoy some of the free time you have before filling it with someone else!
I tried getting back with a girl once who had slept with a guy to make me jealous; found it impossible to get the thought out of my head and things went south again pretty fast after that. So are things properly over with her now or are you still going to see her?

DottyMR2 said:
Taking time to adjust is good, enjoy some of the free time you have before filling it with someone else!

Bloody right; bought some weed for the first time in ages and going to watch all the gangster / sci-fi movies she refused to watch!



DottyMR2

478 posts

127 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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CountZero23 said:
She's a skint mature student and will have enough issues getting the cash together for a new place let alone storage and getting it there. Still coming over to do washing and get some space away from the girl who's sofa she's crashing on while I'm at work. Told her this was cool, no need to make things harder on the girl. Should be over by christmas...
That's a nice gesture, crashing on friends sofas isn't easy. Had to do it a few times when I was in my teens. It can start to fell a bit crowded, espeically if your friends are a couple living together!

CountZero23 said:
Totally with you on plugging the hole, everything just feels empty without her. Planning on taking some time out, just hit the gym and avoid going out for a bit until I'm back on form (we'll forget my drunken indiscretion after being dumped wink).
I think everyone needs that one drunken fumble right after a realtionship, just to remind yourself that other people find you attractive. Easy to forget that after a break up which can cause people to just grab the first decent person they meet.

CountZero23 said:
I tried getting back with a girl once who had slept with a guy to make me jealous; found it impossible to get the thought out of my head and things went south again pretty fast after that. So are things properly over with her now or are you still going to see her?
That may have been a contributing factor. She didn't cheat on me just did some very horrible things that she may well regret now, she was an asshole to me for a year which she does admit then it was a year of weirdness, with this elephant in the room with us. It takes some to get over that. I could of, but I don't think she appreciated that it needed worked at. I've decided it's just not healthy to sit and think about things, what happened happened and I can't change it.

We don't see each other anyway. We've seen each other 3 times in the past 2 years, when we were both single. 2 of them ended in diaster, one a piece laugh. We won't see each other as she has a boyfriend, it's not fair on him to do that so I wouldn't even if she asked. She wouldn't ask though for the same reasons.

Speaking to her, well I doubt I will for a while. We did speak about what happened, cleared the air a bit. Some heavy stuff was discussed though so it's best we don't speak for a while.

Whether we will again, who knows. I won't be contacting her though as I need to be focusing on myself and my life. If she contacts me, well I'll cross that bridge if I come to it. If I don't feel comfortable, I feel able to tell her to not now.


CountZero23 said:
Bloody right; bought some weed for the first time in ages and going to watch all the gangster / sci-fi movies she refused to watch!
Sounds like a good plan, one that I might or might not regularly employ laugh My track car soaks up a great deal of my time too, it's a good distraction too as it gives me problems all of it's own to solve!

Talking about it has certainly helped though. May be a stranger on the internet, but I think that removes any predjudice from the sitation that friends can bring in when they know each party personally, it's a more impartial view. Makes me think about my own actions a bit better and puts things in perspective. It's st to go through but in the grand scheme of things, it's not the end of the world!

I know in 5 years I'll look back and wonder why I let it get to me so much. At the time though no one thinks like that, just got to go through the process. My confidence may have taken a serious knock but I'll get over it. I got over knock backs in the past, just this one has taken quite a long time laugh

CountZero23

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1,288 posts

178 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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DottyMR2 said:
Sounds like a good plan, one that I might or might not regularly employ laugh My track car soaks up a great deal of my time too, it's a good distraction too as it gives me problems all of it's own to solve!

Talking about it has certainly helped though. May be a stranger on the internet, but I think that removes any predjudice from the sitation that friends can bring in when they know each party personally, it's a more impartial view. Makes me think about my own actions a bit better and puts things in perspective. It's st to go through but in the grand scheme of things, it's not the end of the world!

I know in 5 years I'll look back and wonder why I let it get to me so much. At the time though no one thinks like that, just got to go through the process. My confidence may have taken a serious knock but I'll get over it. I got over knock backs in the past, just this one has taken quite a long time laugh
My cars given me enough distractions recently, hit some black ice over weekend and now need to find a second hand rear and front bumper. Lucky it's an MX5 so dirt cheap to get bits for. It's just one of those months laugh

Yup, it's a total st - easy to get sucked into daft idea's about no one knowing what you're going through. Reading over all the replies from this and other threads does put it into perspective. Reminding myself I've been here a few times before and there's always been another great girl round the corner.

5 years sounds like a long time to be planning on worrying about all this. Having good days and bad days at the moment, start feeling better post gym then wake up feeling like crap. Still moving in the right direction.

Had a couple of matches with 18/24 year old girls on Tinder (I'm 33) which has been a nice little boost. God knows how I'd cope with a date right now though.

You been out hunting for a new victim for your romantic attentions?





DottyMR2

478 posts

127 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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CountZero23 said:
My cars given me enough distractions recently, hit some black ice over weekend and now need to find a second hand rear and front bumper. Lucky it's an MX5 so dirt cheap to get bits for. It's just one of those months laugh

Yup, it's a total st - easy to get sucked into daft idea's about no one knowing what you're going through. Reading over all the replies from this and other threads does put it into perspective. Reminding myself I've been here a few times before and there's always been another great girl round the corner.

5 years sounds like a long time to be planning on worrying about all this. Having good days and bad days at the moment, start feeling better post gym then wake up feeling like crap. Still moving in the right direction.

Had a couple of matches with 18/24 year old girls on Tinder (I'm 33) which has been a nice little boost. God knows how I'd cope with a date right now though.

You been out hunting for a new victim for your romantic attentions?

Had a moment on the ice myself last night, luckily I didn't hit anything, just slithered very ungracefully into my street!

It is, those thoughts can spiral too and get out of control, sometimes just need external input to slap you out of it. I do need to remember that, there is always another round the corner if my heads in the right place for it.

Not planning on worrying for 5 years, I think I'd need professional help if it lasted that long! More a kind of, in the future once I'm past it all I'll look back and wonder what the problem was. When you're in it though, that's a hard thing to see.

There is a girl that we went out for a long time after I split from the ex. We had a few rocky patches caused by contact from the ex or just my head not being in the right place. See how it goes, she is a lovely girl and we get on great, have fun together, shared interests etc. See how it goes. I don't know if they're real doubt with her or if it's just the ex is burrowed into my head.

snood

107 posts

141 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Recently single - or rather separated - is a whole new ball game for me. She disappeared at the beginning of Sept and is only in contact through the solicitor, or by email concerning our business. Chance meetings in the street involve her running away or pointedly turning her back - suits me, childish though it is.

I'm looking forward to Christmas, simply because I'll choose what to watch, eat and do or not do. I have one best pal 100 miles away, three distinct sets of chums, two hobby, one support outfit (Al-Anon), plus a counsellor. Hypnothrapy sessions start in the new year (all this support is to do with putting up with her alcoholism).

The complete lack of face-to-face criticism is a revelation, and my mail prog has a delete key.

New territory then, particularly for me, pushing sixty with health issues. But onwards and upwards is decidedly better than backwards and downwards.

WTF next? Time will tell.


gaz1234

5,233 posts

219 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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snood said:
Recently single - or rather separated - is a whole new ball game for me. She disappeared at the beginning of Sept and is only in contact through the solicitor, or by email concerning our business. Chance meetings in the street involve her running away or pointedly turning her back - suits me, childish though it is.

I'm looking forward to Christmas, simply because I'll choose what to watch, eat and do or not do. I have one best pal 100 miles away, three distinct sets of chums, two hobby, one support outfit (Al-Anon), plus a counsellor. Hypnothrapy sessions start in the new year (all this support is to do with putting up with her alcoholism).

The complete lack of face-to-face criticism is a revelation, and my mail prog has a delete key.

New territory then, particularly for me, pushing sixty with health issues. But onwards and upwards is decidedly better than backwards and downwards.

WTF next? Time will tell.
Import a Thai

snood

107 posts

141 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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I bought some music software from a bloke who'd done just this. She was very pleasant, fit as a butcher's mutt and always wore a dazzing smile.

But how long before she absorbs a serious dose of the mental by osmosis from UK contemporaries? rolleyes

croyde

22,898 posts

230 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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Interesting that someone said earlier that you just have to learn to talk to women.

I do that all the time, in fact I'm too good at it and therefore fall, within minutes in some cases, straight into the friend zone.

A couple of decades or more ago I used to work with Chris Evans and I still remember one of the things he said to me, in the days when a couple of pints would get him pi55ed.

"The thing is croyde, all the girls in the office absolutely love you but non of them will ever sleep with you"

The guy is a prophet hehe

Edited by croyde on Monday 15th December 23:27


Edited by croyde on Thursday 18th December 08:35

snood

107 posts

141 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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croyde said:
Interesting that someone said earlier that you just have to learn to talk to women.

I do that all the time, in fact I'm too good at it and therefore fall, within minutes in some cases, straight into the friend zone.

A couple of decades or more ago I used to work with Chris Evan and I still remember one of the things he said to me, in the days when a couple of pints would get him pi55ed.

"The thing is croyde, all the girls in the office absolutely love you but non of them will ever sleep with you"

The guy is a profit hehe
Think I'm a bit the same. Mr. Safe!

Gretchen

19,037 posts

216 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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This thread is useless without pictures.



stewies_minion

1,166 posts

187 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Typical.

Now I feel objectified.

CountZero23

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1,288 posts

178 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Gretchen said:
This thread is useless without pictures.
People posting pictures of their recent ex's would not probably not be all that helpful hehe

It twas simply a matter of time before 'that post' tho...

In the mean time, I've been spending lots of time with mates I've neglected over the course of my relationship. My female freinds are now giving fashion advice and seem excited by the chance to do some match making.

In the same way we like our 'projects' it appears they seem to have taken me on as theirs rolleyes

Hitting the gym a fair bit and am now off to some mental new years day club party. So much for the quiet one I had planned with the ex...








Edited by CountZero23 on Wednesday 17th December 23:35