Merry Christmas just been burgled.
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tty, stty news OP.
Can you not track the Ipad via 'Find My Iphone App'?
My friend, 'lost' his phone on a night out, in reality, he was drunk, dropped it in a local casino, he went back as this was the last place he remembered having it, checked lost property, nothing handed in.
So he went home, the next mornign tracked his Iphone, to a road nearby, (oddly enough close to the casino.)
The app however didn't give an exact address just a road address. He 'pinged' the iphone & sent a message to it from the app asking for it to be handed in to the police or be returned, nothing.
He then went to the police station & said he knew which road it was on & could they pay a visit, they declined obviously for a phone & gave him a crime ref no for insurance purposes.
He then went up the road it was tracked on & knocked on every single house & flat door letting whoever answer the door know that he had lost it, had tracked it to this location & that he had notified the police where it was, nobody came clean.
He recognised one of the residents as being a casion worker. (Although they denied having it or having seen it).
He subsequently went home, feeling a bit deflated & tracked the phone again, the phone started moving, out of the road & up another road, all the way to the police station, he then received a call from the police station saying his phone had been handed in. The police wouldn't say who by, but put 2+2 together.
Not saying this will work for you, but it's worth a go!
tty, stty news OP.Can you not track the Ipad via 'Find My Iphone App'?
My friend, 'lost' his phone on a night out, in reality, he was drunk, dropped it in a local casino, he went back as this was the last place he remembered having it, checked lost property, nothing handed in.
So he went home, the next mornign tracked his Iphone, to a road nearby, (oddly enough close to the casino.)
The app however didn't give an exact address just a road address. He 'pinged' the iphone & sent a message to it from the app asking for it to be handed in to the police or be returned, nothing.
He then went to the police station & said he knew which road it was on & could they pay a visit, they declined obviously for a phone & gave him a crime ref no for insurance purposes.
He then went up the road it was tracked on & knocked on every single house & flat door letting whoever answer the door know that he had lost it, had tracked it to this location & that he had notified the police where it was, nobody came clean.
He recognised one of the residents as being a casion worker. (Although they denied having it or having seen it).
He subsequently went home, feeling a bit deflated & tracked the phone again, the phone started moving, out of the road & up another road, all the way to the police station, he then received a call from the police station saying his phone had been handed in. The police wouldn't say who by, but put 2+2 together.
Not saying this will work for you, but it's worth a go!
The Moose said:
Interesting point you raise.
How do you prove you had the stuff in the first place for the insurance company? Obviously a lot of stuff if paid for either with cash or if presents wouldn't be covered then?
I guess you could make a video showing everything in each room and then upload the files (somewhere private) on the Internet.
I guess it depends on the insurance company and the level of cover you have paid for. We had done the usual of just picking the cheapest one but then regretted it when they wanted receipts or other proof of purchase for all the items that were taken. Perhaps if you have paid more up front for a better policy then they take your word for it?How do you prove you had the stuff in the first place for the insurance company? Obviously a lot of stuff if paid for either with cash or if presents wouldn't be covered then?
I guess you could make a video showing everything in each room and then upload the files (somewhere private) on the Internet.
Monkeythree said:
The Moose said:
Interesting point you raise.
How do you prove you had the stuff in the first place for the insurance company? Obviously a lot of stuff if paid for either with cash or if presents wouldn't be covered then?
I guess you could make a video showing everything in each room and then upload the files (somewhere private) on the Internet.
I guess it depends on the insurance company and the level of cover you have paid for. We had done the usual of just picking the cheapest one but then regretted it when they wanted receipts or other proof of purchase for all the items that were taken. Perhaps if you have paid more up front for a better policy then they take your word for it?How do you prove you had the stuff in the first place for the insurance company? Obviously a lot of stuff if paid for either with cash or if presents wouldn't be covered then?
I guess you could make a video showing everything in each room and then upload the files (somewhere private) on the Internet.
A good insurer will appoint a specific claims handler or loss adjuster to work with you and help you determine how to assess and prove everything you've lost.
One benefit of today's online world is that emails, transactions and photos etc. can often be traced back to prove purchase or possession of many items. I started my career working in travel insurance claims where holiday photos were often sought to establish if someone really did own that £5K Rolex that they claimed had fallen off their wrist and into the ocean...
Now, I take photos of any expensive purchases and the receipts for jewellery, gadgets, home TV / audio and the like and upload them to my Dropbox account just in case they're ever needed.
Again, commiserations OP and I hope you get things sorted quickly. Any insurance q's feel free to PM me (I'm a commercial broker now but should be able to point you in the right direction).
Really sorry to hear that. It's an awful feeling. 
We had the house broken into a couple of years back and I'm convinced that I just missed them. Stupidly, the moment I realised we had been burgled I locked the door behind me hoping to catch them in the house but they were nowhere to be seen. Just as well really as that could have got messy very quickly.
In fairness to the Police, they were very helpful but couldn't find any fingerprints so suggested that we speak to the neighbours and perhaps try some second hand shops / pawn shops locally before looking on gum tree and eBay for the stolen items. But they indicated that due to the nature of the stuff stolen it was likely they broke in looking for stuff to steal for drug money.
The first thing we did was secure the windows they got in from, sorted ourselves out with a decent alarm and then brought home a companion who by pure coincidence turned out to be a bloody amazing guard dog.
Best of luck getting everything sorted and I hope it doesn't put too much of a dampener on Christmas.
We had the house broken into a couple of years back and I'm convinced that I just missed them. Stupidly, the moment I realised we had been burgled I locked the door behind me hoping to catch them in the house but they were nowhere to be seen. Just as well really as that could have got messy very quickly.
In fairness to the Police, they were very helpful but couldn't find any fingerprints so suggested that we speak to the neighbours and perhaps try some second hand shops / pawn shops locally before looking on gum tree and eBay for the stolen items. But they indicated that due to the nature of the stuff stolen it was likely they broke in looking for stuff to steal for drug money.
The first thing we did was secure the windows they got in from, sorted ourselves out with a decent alarm and then brought home a companion who by pure coincidence turned out to be a bloody amazing guard dog.
Best of luck getting everything sorted and I hope it doesn't put too much of a dampener on Christmas.
OP, very sorry to hear about this. We were robbed in January (a few days before my birthday) in a similar manner. We had aluminium patio doors which they simply lifted straight out. They made off with jewellery, with the wedding jewellery and a watch I was given by my Dad for my 18th being the most painful to lose. We lost a kindle, PS3 a laptop and a few other bits and pieces (annoyingly they stole one of our pillow cases, presumably to fill up with jewellery!).
The police were excellent as were our insurers (Direct Line). We needed to provide photos where possible of the jewellery and serial numbers for the electronic goods- a few things we couldn't prove, but they paid out anyway. Amazon deactivated the Kindle straight away, so that was worse than useless to whoever bought it from thes.
The PS3 was recovered from a dodgy father and son in London, along with several other PS3s. Father is now in prison for handling stolen goods (son blamed him, and the father had a lot of previous). Still, the police didn't have any reason to believe that they were actually the ones who broke in.
Soon after the incident I wished that the scum sold on my stuff and overdosed on the drugs they bought with the proceeds.
We rented at the time and our landlord was amazing- 2 days later we had PVC french doors fitted and we improved the security from the rear of the property (an alleyway ran past the bottom of the garden). We have since bought a house, but that event influenced our purchase- the garden is fully enclosed and as it's a link detached house the only way to get into the garden is either through or over the garage. This house also has an alarm.
Anyway, I hope your Christmas isn't completely ruined. Trust me, you will start to feel better in a few weeks once the dust settles. But it is fking horrible. Here's to hoping that the s are either caught or are found in a ditch after being violently arse raped.
The police were excellent as were our insurers (Direct Line). We needed to provide photos where possible of the jewellery and serial numbers for the electronic goods- a few things we couldn't prove, but they paid out anyway. Amazon deactivated the Kindle straight away, so that was worse than useless to whoever bought it from the
s. The PS3 was recovered from a dodgy father and son in London, along with several other PS3s. Father is now in prison for handling stolen goods (son blamed him, and the father had a lot of previous). Still, the police didn't have any reason to believe that they were actually the ones who broke in.
Soon after the incident I wished that the scum sold on my stuff and overdosed on the drugs they bought with the proceeds.
We rented at the time and our landlord was amazing- 2 days later we had PVC french doors fitted and we improved the security from the rear of the property (an alleyway ran past the bottom of the garden). We have since bought a house, but that event influenced our purchase- the garden is fully enclosed and as it's a link detached house the only way to get into the garden is either through or over the garage. This house also has an alarm.
Anyway, I hope your Christmas isn't completely ruined. Trust me, you will start to feel better in a few weeks once the dust settles. But it is f
king horrible. Here's to hoping that the s are either caught or are found in a ditch after being violently arse raped.The Moose said:
Interesting point you raise.
How do you prove you had the stuff in the first place for the insurance company? Obviously a lot of stuff if paid for either with cash or if presents wouldn't be covered then?
I guess you could make a video showing everything in each room and then upload the files (somewhere private) on the Internet.
We tend to have photos of most of our higher value items.How do you prove you had the stuff in the first place for the insurance company? Obviously a lot of stuff if paid for either with cash or if presents wouldn't be covered then?
I guess you could make a video showing everything in each room and then upload the files (somewhere private) on the Internet.
A friend was rolled over a few years back and their then girlfriend had 90% of her part of the claim turned down as she had no proof of owning any of the said items. After a little conversation with friend my suspicions were correct and it was her dishonestly over this that ended the relationship.
If you have nice jewellery or high ticket items have a look through your old photos, especially those taken about the time of purchase, and you will see that there tends to be a surprising amount of stuff you think you have no record of but which is clear in a photo in the back ground or on someone's neck, etc.
Rude-boy said:
We tend to have photos of most of our higher value items.
A friend was rolled over a few years back and their then girlfriend had 90% of her part of the claim turned down as she had no proof of owning any of the said items. After a little conversation with friend my suspicions were correct and it was her dishonestly over this that ended the relationship.
If you have nice jewellery or high ticket items have a look through your old photos, especially those taken about the time of purchase, and you will see that there tends to be a surprising amount of stuff you think you have no record of but which is clear in a photo in the back ground or on someone's neck, etc.
my mum had all her jewellery (and her late mothers) pinched - The value was irrelevant. The cop liason person asked if she could look through the family photo albumsA friend was rolled over a few years back and their then girlfriend had 90% of her part of the claim turned down as she had no proof of owning any of the said items. After a little conversation with friend my suspicions were correct and it was her dishonestly over this that ended the relationship.
If you have nice jewellery or high ticket items have a look through your old photos, especially those taken about the time of purchase, and you will see that there tends to be a surprising amount of stuff you think you have no record of but which is clear in a photo in the back ground or on someone's neck, etc.
The nice cop lady dug up a load of evidence of stuff, pictures from weddings, birthdays, bbq's holiday pics where mum / nan were wearing said jewellery. They then copied the pics and put them in a database, so if any unusual stuff turns up, they can compare it to their list. We had one bite and a near identical ring turned up, but mums was a little different
Now i take a pic of anything worthwhile on top of its receipt and email it to myself and gf with a quick description in the subject.
Petrol Only said:
Bad luck OP. Don't let it ruin Christmas though. Family will pull you through.
Don't bother with a expensive alarm get a big dog instead. A big bark is better than an alarm everyone ignores anyway.
Dogs are great but they are a bit of an issue when you have to think about looking after the poor mutt and of course when you go to the Maldives for two weeks Fido is likely to be in kennels (I hope rather than staving to death at home P&S all over the shop!)Don't bother with a expensive alarm get a big dog instead. A big bark is better than an alarm everyone ignores anyway.
I've also seen enough of the lower end of the food chain to know that there are quite a few who have ways of dealing with dogs, and not all of them sadly involve making friends, a chocie drop and being lead into another room...
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