Diana

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wildcat45

8,076 posts

190 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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rehab71 said:
Watch Christopher Hitchen's brilliant 'Diana: The Mourning After' and give us your thoughts!

http://youtu.be/zkrPx5RQ2I0

She didn't leave a penny of her millions of pounds to charity!
Fascinating to watch. Would be interesting to examine The whole thing in the same way when it's 20 years on.

I have to admit, at the time the whole hysteria thing caught me. A very odd thing to get involved with.

How do I view her now? A dead celeb. Someone who ultimately had little or no long term impact on society, or the world. A dead icon from the past century, a minor icon now there is perspective on her life. She wasn't a great white hope for the future like JFK, a steadfast leader like Churchill or an uber bd like Hitler.

The world did not change for good or bad because of her.

Sure she played her part in history, in being the mother of a future king. But that's it.

Maybe her legacy will be as a phenomenon to be peered at, written about and discussed in undergraduate social science or media studies university seminars.

Had she lived would she have destroyed the monarchy? Who knows? She's dead.

rehab71

3,362 posts

191 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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wildcat45 said:
rehab71 said:
Watch Christopher Hitchen's brilliant 'Diana: The Mourning After' and give us your thoughts!

http://youtu.be/zkrPx5RQ2I0

She didn't leave a penny of her millions of pounds to charity!
Fascinating to watch. Would be interesting to examine The whole thing in the same way when it's 20 years on.

I have to admit, at the time the whole hysteria thing caught me. A very odd thing to get involved with.

How do I view her now? A dead celeb. Someone who ultimately had little or no long term impact on society, or the world. A dead icon from the past century, a minor icon now there is perspective on her life. She wasn't a great white hope for the future like JFK, a steadfast leader like Churchill or an uber bd like Hitler.

The world did not change for good or bad because of her.

Sure she played her part in history, in being the mother of a future king. But that's it.

Maybe her legacy will be as a phenomenon to be peered at, written about and discussed in undergraduate social science or media studies university seminars.

Had she lived would she have destroyed the monarchy? Who knows? She's dead.
Hitchens does a great job his programme on Mother Teresa is equally eye opening.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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wildcat45 said:
Who knows? She's dead.
Nononono, no, no! she's restin'!

Tired and shagged out, following a prolonged squawk.

Shaolin

2,955 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
Tired and shagged out, following a prolonged squawk.
biggrin

kazste

5,679 posts

199 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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43034 said:
Awful taste in jumpers

Surely thats just jimmy carr with a bit of slap on.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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hora said:
All I remember is live coverage of F1 postponed to screen the funeral procession.
Missed that, who won?

wildcat45

8,076 posts

190 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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rehab71 said:
Hitchens does a great job his programme on Mother Teresa is equally eye opening.
I'll have to find that and have a look.

Bloody bad timing, that death of hers.

GTIR

24,741 posts

267 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
hora said:
All I remember is live coverage of F1 postponed to screen the funeral procession.
Missed that, who won?


B626 WRK (black Bentley hearse) just ahead of the BMW motorbike, by a whisker.

Cliftonite

8,412 posts

139 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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GTIR said:


B626 WRK (black Bentley hearse) just ahead of the BMW motorbike, by a whisker.
Driving with obstructed view through windscreen?


nicanary

9,799 posts

147 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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B626 MRK - and it's a Daimler.

Should've gone to........

Patch1875

4,895 posts

133 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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The good old days with the crowd right next to the action.

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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Johnnytheboy said:
I never forget the morning after she died the Times/Torygraph had a comment piece really ripping into where her life was going. Their tone soon changed and she became this angel figure for simpletons.
The Private Eye following her death was superb, they just filled it with journalism from just before her death (Airhead, bonkers, manpiulater etc) contrasted with the same writers and editorials after her death (Angel, perfect princess, most wonderful fragrant person in the world etc). W H Smith and other outlets banned it and I think it is pretty rare now. The hypocrisy was off the scale.

DanielSan

18,806 posts

168 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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Patch1875 said:
The good old days with the crowd right next to the action.
Reminds of the old Group B rallying days.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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DanielSan said:
Patch1875 said:
The good old days with the crowd right next to the action.
Reminds of the old Group B rallying days.
And the F1 paddock at Oulton Park.

a311

5,806 posts

178 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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I was still living at home at the time of her death. I really wasn't bothered, but remember my parents disbelieve almost anger at the fact that I just went about my day as normal and wasn't fussed. My parents despite being normal educated people were caught up in the Diana media hysteria (before and after her death) which, being older and wiser is all it was-the advent of real obsession with celebrity status in the UK IMO.

I felt sorry that her sons were going to grow up without their mother other but that was about it. What did she actually do that made a tangible impact to the good of the world? Involved in charity etc? So have many of the other (all?) of the royals, she and her team just seemed very good at self promotion.

The media censorship and how it drummed up this hysteria was in hindsight quite disgusting.

Countdown

39,963 posts

197 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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northwest monkey said:
Baryonyx said:
northwest monkey said:
Why no bonnet vents?
Those were saved for the 4x4. But because they looked mint, a few people got 4x4 bonnets for their RWD Sapphires.
Well I did not know that - cheerssmile
Every day's a school day!

For some reason I had always thought the Sapphire Cosworth only came out at G-reg/1990. No idea why confused

silverfoxcc

7,690 posts

146 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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br d said:
Johnnytheboy said:
I never forget the morning after she died the Times/Torygraph had a comment piece really ripping into where her life was going. Their tone soon changed and she became this angel figure for simpletons.
The Private Eye following her death was superb, they just filled it with journalism from just before her death (Airhead, bonkers, manpiulater etc) contrasted with the same writers and editorials after her death (Angel, perfect princess, most wonderful fragrant person in the world etc). W H Smith and other outlets banned it and I think it is pretty rare now. The hypocrisy was off the scale.
That edition of PE got me 'back into the fold' in buying it again.
Superb edition and still have it. Just amazing how two faced journos are, and politicians etc etc

Steve_W

1,495 posts

178 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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I was in France with a couple of mates when she was killed. The Aussie girls we'd met in the bar were amazed we weren't gutted by the news. Why would we be - none of us knew her; felt sorry for her sons though.

Some of the stuff we saw on the news just left us with a WTF feeling. I remember one woman saying she was more upset than when her own parents died. Wow.

Ki3r

7,822 posts

160 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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I was very upset by it.

Dennis the Menace wasn't in as it was all news about it.

GTIR

24,741 posts

267 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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nicanary said:
B626 MRK - and it's a Daimler.

Should've gone to........
Oh, I forgot this is PH. Details matter.

How dare you belittle our princess!