Chuggers...

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mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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technodup said:
<snip>. It's no different to commercial business- spend money to make money.
key message of running a charity successfully

not helped by your workforce trying to sabotage you at every term as has been the Modus Operandi of the volunteers at all levels in a number of organisations

technodup

7,584 posts

131 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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The girl who linked me to that video works for one of the big charities and is a regional fundraising manager. She was brought in from a big retailer for her commercial awareness but the charity are dead against investing any money in her ideas. "We'll just stick with the volunteer model which isn't raising enough rather than take a chance on raising much much more". Risk averse to the extreme.

No sale. smile

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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hora said:
To me, charity is a act of genuine self-giving not prompted or pressured in any way. If you give of your own free will that is an act of kindness and shows a good person. Asked (be it friend at work walking round putting a form into of co workers or chuggers isn't an act of charity. Its a tax/etc.
typical PH response

hora said:
How is it charity if you feel peer or any other sort of pressure?
are you asbout to misquote mrs T aobut society ...

hora said:
Why do all these charities chase more and more money?

Volunteers is just fine thanks. Its not a business model
even if you use volunteers there are still considerable costs involved in providing services, in some cases you are still having to find hundreds of thousands / millions of pounds per county / region to provide the volunteer delivered services - as the only difference is the wage bill is far smaller ( but off set by expenses and subsistence)

technodup

7,584 posts

131 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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hora said:
Why do all these charities chase more and more money?
Because it costs a never ending shedload to aid warzones, or to house the homeless or to train guide dogs?

If Cancer Research find a cure is anyone going to knock it back on the principle that they employed chuggers or bought adverts to raise money from us?

Plus if we didn't have charities we'd only end up paying more tax to pay for the services they provide. And the government would almost certainly deliver worse outcomes with more waste.

Jonmx

2,546 posts

214 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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Not taken the chuggers long to get back out on the streets. A couple of beefed up lads flogging wristbands for £3 to help mental health recently. My first question is always, are you a business or a charity? Surprise surprise they're a business. Crappy id cards, a website with no business details whatsoever and ultimately they told me to 'fk off'. They were probably getting 2-3 people a minute with their aggressive pitch. A shame Covid didn't put an end to this modern day highway robbery.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

114 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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Sounds just like a fraud scam if they are making out to be a charitable organisation but really a company. So they are just bullying people into selling wristbands for £3 that cost them pennies and pocketing the rest. I remember there were a load of similar scammers claiming to be veteran charities pre-lockdown doing the same and the Walter mitty hunters were doing their best to stop them. After research most of them are convicted fraudsters or general criminal scumbags pressurising the old and vulnerable to "donate". Should be shot....

StevieBee

12,928 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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anonymous said:
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Two of the wealthiest charities in the UK who, if they stopped fundraising today could continue doing what they do for several years.

Wouldn't spreading the love a little be a bit more fulfilling for you? Perhaps include a local organisation?

Sheets Tabuer

18,984 posts

216 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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There is a animal rescue charity near me that are always asking for donations and people to go work there for free, they even put out an appeal for a large house with lots of land for the horses of course.. Although they would be buying it as it was for the charity it would help if it would be cheap as chips or perhaps even cheaper.

Trouble is the two people that run it only have a handful of animals if that, drive around in range rovers and don't seem to have any other income. Of course they are probably lottery winners doing it out of the goodness of their own heart.

eldar

21,798 posts

197 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
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StevieBee said:
anonymous said:
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Two of the wealthiest charities in the UK who, if they stopped fundraising today could continue doing what they do for several years.

Wouldn't spreading the love a little be a bit more fulfilling for you? Perhaps include a local organisation?
I thought animal related charities had the largest reserves.