Work harder, get a better car, bigger house blah blah blah
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irocfan said:
my uncle used to work all the hours God gave - regularly home 23.00 and back out to work again by 05.00 hardly too holidays. His marriage went to s
t, his relationship with his daughter went the same way and he's now in an old people's home having had a massive stroke with no family visiting him and very few friends. Yay, a life well lived! bks to that
Exactly, work what you have to to keep on top of your work, but don't let in run your life.t, his relationship with his daughter went the same way and he's now in an old people's home having had a massive stroke with no family visiting him and very few friends. Yay, a life well lived! bks to thatIf it's your own business, then I can fully understand, but even that has to give.
GTIAlex said:
Just enjoy life and don't get focused on things that arn't important.
This.(and most of the other stuff people have said)
Its all b
ks really, it really is.I currently have no job, strangers living in my house, haven't owned a car for two years, don't know what I'm going to do in the future - don't care, never been happier !!
Not trapped by all the crap that goes with the normal grind, expectations,competition with others, other peoples views, bla,bla,bla....
Its all b
ksks !!I should clarify, if you're not going to progress your career by working longer/harder, or at the very least earn overtime then you would have to be a loon to put in another 30 hours a week! Change of career or training/qualifications may be useful I suppose?
For me working harder/longer means greater rewards financially, not just now but longer term too. So greater security. So yes it's definitely worth it, I'm looking at "retiring" to a much easier role in a few years, with less hours and stress and could even think about a nice early retirement too.
I'm young and fit enough to do it right now, and I find it pretty rewarding. Will have to see how long it lasts but dont see it stopping this decade.
As far as "are my family better off" yeah, I think so, In fact I know so..
We see each other all the time, dine together most nights (at the dining table), spend family time together on the weekends and I get time with just the boy, and just the GF too. We're all pretty happy.
My son is 15 now anyway, so there's only so much he wants to see of the parents at that age anyway, he's got a GF of his own and friends, scouts, and a bunch of other stuff he does. I'm not missing babys first steps here!
You know what, we're all pretty happy, seriously, even with me working long hours (and the GF isn't too far behind, 40+ hours and she only does a 4 day week, Fridays off!) I've a great relationship with my son, and the other half.
So for all the work-life-balancers from my point of view it's pretty easy to have a decent home life and a very active, busy and fruitful career. Putting a bit of overtime in, or pressing on with your career, really doesnt destroy your life... maybe I'm just a heartless emotional robot.
For me working harder/longer means greater rewards financially, not just now but longer term too. So greater security. So yes it's definitely worth it, I'm looking at "retiring" to a much easier role in a few years, with less hours and stress and could even think about a nice early retirement too.
I'm young and fit enough to do it right now, and I find it pretty rewarding. Will have to see how long it lasts but dont see it stopping this decade.
As far as "are my family better off" yeah, I think so, In fact I know so..
We see each other all the time, dine together most nights (at the dining table), spend family time together on the weekends and I get time with just the boy, and just the GF too. We're all pretty happy.
My son is 15 now anyway, so there's only so much he wants to see of the parents at that age anyway, he's got a GF of his own and friends, scouts, and a bunch of other stuff he does. I'm not missing babys first steps here!
You know what, we're all pretty happy, seriously, even with me working long hours (and the GF isn't too far behind, 40+ hours and she only does a 4 day week, Fridays off!) I've a great relationship with my son, and the other half.So for all the work-life-balancers from my point of view it's pretty easy to have a decent home life and a very active, busy and fruitful career. Putting a bit of overtime in, or pressing on with your career, really doesnt destroy your life... maybe I'm just a heartless emotional robot.
Work harder get a better car, bigger house etc.
Sounds like a formula for creating a lot of debt and paying a lot of taxes.
People always want more than they need, as if will make them look better in the eyes of others.
So you buy that 4 bed detached, in all probability the house either side of you is also of the same standing.
To your neighbours you appear average. Sorry but you do.
It is lifestyle that sets some apart, not bank owned assets.
A better aim in life would be to strive for the lifestyle you want.
That could be the 4 bed detached with a pool or maybe some would be happier dodging falling coconuts on a tropical beach.
But for me it's lifestyle over assets. and certainly not 6 days a week at work, what sort of life is that.
Sounds like a formula for creating a lot of debt and paying a lot of taxes.
People always want more than they need, as if will make them look better in the eyes of others.
So you buy that 4 bed detached, in all probability the house either side of you is also of the same standing.
To your neighbours you appear average. Sorry but you do.
It is lifestyle that sets some apart, not bank owned assets.
A better aim in life would be to strive for the lifestyle you want.
That could be the 4 bed detached with a pool or maybe some would be happier dodging falling coconuts on a tropical beach.
But for me it's lifestyle over assets. and certainly not 6 days a week at work, what sort of life is that.
jeff m2 said:
So you buy that 4 bed detached, in all probability the house either side of you is also of the same standing.
To your neighbours you appear average. Sorry but you do.
So what? Who the hell cares?To your neighbours you appear average. Sorry but you do.
You wanted a detached house with 4 bedrooms, your house is detached and has 4 bedrooms. So it's back of the net, target splashed.
Who cares who thinks you look average?
I'm much happier thrashing a cheap car than posing in an expensive car. I think that would be the case for me, irrespective of how much I earn. I'm just not that impressed by possessions, experiences on the other hand...and yes I know you generally need money to have experiences, but there are exceptions, if you have a little imagination/drive.
8 hours work 8 hours play 8 hours sleep.
Jobs are just a job. If you aren't careful life will pass you buy while you work all the hours trying to afford things to impress people and make yourself happy.
No matter how much money you have, how successful you Are when we die we all go in the same sized box.
Jobs are just a job. If you aren't careful life will pass you buy while you work all the hours trying to afford things to impress people and make yourself happy.
No matter how much money you have, how successful you Are when we die we all go in the same sized box.
Hard work is no guarantee of reward. TBH I take the view that if you are not effective enough in the hours you work then your probably not doing it right so need to rethink. You shouldn't be expected to work all hours (though some companies do) to succeed.
If you're an asset and respected, at some point that reward will come to you (or is that just bks?).
If you're an asset and respected, at some point that reward will come to you (or is that just b
ks?).Edited by giger on Friday 30th January 21:09
Dr Jekyll said:
jeff m2 said:
So you buy that 4 bed detached, in all probability the house either side of you is also of the same standing.
To your neighbours you appear average. Sorry but you do.
So what? Who the hell cares?To your neighbours you appear average. Sorry but you do.
You wanted a detached house with 4 bedrooms, your house is detached and has 4 bedrooms. So it's back of the net, target splashed.
Who cares who thinks you look average?
I didn't say I have a 4 bed det, I was advocating lifestyle over bigger house better car etc.
No one to pose to. giger said:
Hard work is no guarantee of reward. TBH I take the view that if you are not effective enough in the hours you work then your probably not doing it right so need to rethink. You shouldn't be expected to work all hours (though some companies do) to succeed.
If you're an asset and respected, at some point that reward will come to you (or is that just bks?).
Agree. If you're an asset and respected, at some point that reward will come to you (or is that just b
ks?).Edited by giger on Friday 30th January 21:09
The days I work properly hard with no lunch I am usually knackered by 6pm. I just don't see how it is possible to be working at full capacity for long hoyrs each and every day. I aim to do my job well and am willing to be flexible to get the job done. If you are having to work those hours then you are doing something wrong, or the job of 2 people.
If you're earning 6 figures then fair enough, but I'm still not sure it's worth it. Uni friend of mine worked in a law firm in london with the promise of 75k after finishing his training. He finished his training but left straight away. Loads of our uni friends went to london and had a great time whilst he was working 8am to midnight. He missed out on life.
If I owned a business and saw a million pound plus exit strategy in 5 years I would definitely do it though.
Edited by covmutley on Friday 30th January 22:30
Edited by covmutley on Friday 30th January 22:37
GTIAlex said:
Just enjoy life and don't get focused on things that arn't important.
I never did get this thing about always improving, getting more, better, bigger, 'moving up the property ladder' etc. What is wrong with just having a good relaxed time and enjoying life at a steady pace.
In my job we are expected to continually strive for promotion. I'm happy doing what I do as a lowly mechanic, don't want to be the next CEO, but the company can't accept that.
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