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Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Anyone who calls their partner "Babe".

Fugazi

564 posts

121 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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lowdrag said:
I did Latin in high school in the early to mid-nineties and my memories of it are dominated by the bloody textbooks 'Ecce Romani' and trundling into school trying to memorise lists of nouns... Although I was terrible at it I did enjoy the subject so much I took it at GCSE level. As it happens the school is definitely in a very council area although I'm not sure they still teach it.


Edited by Fugazi on Saturday 11th July 18:23

Tickle

4,922 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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austinsmirk said:
Well no one should be scared of taking about race. You're right it's precisely the fear of being branded a racist that led to authorities failing to investigate the terrible sex crimes.

However I'm not a skin headed nutter. I'm a director who works in social housing. I formally spent years running a cities housing services do I write with some knowledge.

Trust me on several factors: housing estates are generally filled with white trash.

About 80% of tenants are fully benefit defendant. Most domestic violence we saw was in the Asian community

However when sporting events were on like the World Cup, you could expect a spike in white women fleeing violence.

Poles are not here to claim benefits, they're here to work and social housing landlords love them. They work and pay rent and are far cleaner and nicer than the white trash. Good ethics and values.

Romanians Bulgarians really are here to scam the systems and appear to be criminals. I've had to deal with young girls trafficked for sex for example.

Disabled people are often brought here to use our health system due to bad facilities in their own countries.


Anyway roll on the benefits cuts. People really do live well on the state. National service and schools beating some sense into these kids would be a start. Now everyone has 'uman rites innit bruv.

However we must continue to deliver such services as there are some truly vulnerable people out there left so by poor parenting etc.
A very insightful post

jamoor

14,506 posts

215 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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lowdrag said:
I was wondering about schooling. Now my school must have been very common because the exam papers were called the Common Entrance Exams. Are these the same as they take today age 12 or can they not get into a "common" school?





Common entrance still exists.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Actually I will apologise about some references to Bulgarians Romanians here to work in the nhs et al, as the other poster says, yes some are here to work.

Sadly I do have a tainted view somewhat because of decades in the job.


Anyway another point: smoking in your car with your children inside, especially babies, with the Windows closed or barely open.

Having your children attacked and probably killed by the family dog. Tragic but sadly it's usually a child with a double barreled name.


Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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the Dutch can be a bit council

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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Those common entrance exam papers are an eye-opener. Today's kids get multiple-choice questions, so even if they're thick they get a 3-1 shot at the correct answer.

My A-level German literature was Goethe, printed in Gothic script. I reckon today's 6th-formers would scream "unfair" if they had to read it.

PS I've just returned from a house where they were having a party for the Ulster public holiday. Several 4 or 5 year-old kids running around outside at 11.30pm, dance music thumping out in the kitchen at the same sort of level you'd find in a club , walls vibrating, no thought as to how the neighbours would get to sleep. Real "council".

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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nicanary said:
Those common entrance exam papers are an eye-opener. Today's kids get multiple-choice questions, so even if they're thick they get a 3-1 shot at the correct answer.

My A-level German literature was Goethe, printed in Gothic script. I reckon today's 6th-formers would scream "unfair" if they had to read it.
But with those multiple choice exams, isn't it usually +1 point for a correct answer and -2 points for incorrect?

And we did exactly that for German A-Level too

lowdrag

12,893 posts

213 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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I didn't put up the algebra, general maths and geometry papers, and the GCE papers are again pretty grim by today's standards. 2.5 hours of English literature for example covering The Prologue by Chaucer, Rhyme and Reason, Hard Times,and Twelfth Night rounded off by Chesterton's Essays. The second section was on The First Men in the Moon and Conrad's The Heart of Darkness and Youth with finally a choice of either questions on Tobias and the Angel or The Warden. I've shown them from time to time to teachers and they are shocked saying it would be unfair to expect pupils of today to try and answer them. I took the GCE at 15 in 1961. Sorry to digress, but in some ways it does fit in with "council" but more the general dumbing down of society.

motco

15,962 posts

246 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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Having a new car on the state every three years while you are perfectly capable of walking to town to Costa for your morning refreshment. And THEN, advising your neighbour how to apply for a car too! Not a penny earned... Many pennies claimed.

zygalski

7,759 posts

145 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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Morningside said:
Anyone who calls their partner "Babe".
Oh dear. That's me out then, despite never having claimed benefits or ever having resided in a council house.

Uncle John

4,288 posts

191 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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zygalski said:
Morningside said:
Anyone who calls their partner "Babe".
Oh dear. That's me out then, despite never having claimed benefits or ever having resided in a council house.
Me as well......

Snozzwangler

12,230 posts

194 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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Uncle John said:
zygalski said:
Morningside said:
Anyone who calls their partner "Babe".
Oh dear. That's me out then, despite never having claimed benefits or ever having resided in a council house.
Me as well......
st...

Must mean I'm common as muck.



At least I don't have a Zafira though! phew.

AstonZagato

12,704 posts

210 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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lowdrag said:
I didn't put up the algebra, general maths and geometry papers, and the GCE papers are again pretty grim by today's standards. 2.5 hours of English literature for example covering The Prologue by Chaucer, Rhyme and Reason, Hard Times,and Twelfth Night rounded off by Chesterton's Essays. The second section was on The First Men in the Moon and Conrad's The Heart of Darkness and Youth with finally a choice of either questions on Tobias and the Angel or The Warden. I've shown them from time to time to teachers and they are shocked saying it would be unfair to expect pupils of today to try and answer them. I took the GCE at 15 in 1961. Sorry to digress, but in some ways it does fit in with "council" but more the general dumbing down of society.
We used to do ancient O level papers as A level practice when I was at school in the early 80s. They were hard.

I read Classics at Cambridge 30 years ago and I couldn't do those Latin and Greek papers today (it would have been easy 30 years ago though - not used anything I've learnt then, so it has slipped away). But I couldn't have done them aged 13. I thought the French paper was far easier on a relative scale.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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My dad fell in with a group who were mainly skilled tradesmen. As a consequence he was determined I would have a trade. He could have taken me out of school at 15, but I stayed and took my GCEs. I drink to his memory for doing that. It was not fashionable at the time, but times were changing. Many trades were hereditary and to break in was difficult. The GCE exams then were painfully difficult when compared to the equivalent today. I became a Professional Engineer.

kowalski655

14,643 posts

143 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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motco said:
Having a new car on the state every three years while you are perfectly capable of walking to town to Costa for your morning refreshment. And THEN, advising your neighbour how to apply for a car too! Not a penny earned... Many pennies claimed.
Try here then...
https://secure.dwp.gov.uk/benefitfraud/

lowdrag

12,893 posts

213 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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AstonZagato said:
We used to do ancient O level papers as A level practice when I was at school in the early 80s. They were hard.

I read Classics at Cambridge 30 years ago and I couldn't do those Latin and Greek papers today (it would have been easy 30 years ago though - not used anything I've learnt then, so it has slipped away). But I couldn't have done them aged 13. I thought the French paper was far easier on a relative scale.
I have found that the grounding in the classics has helped me all my life. Don't ask me to sort out the electrics on my car, but I do know the origin and meaning of most words. Take Hippopotamus for example; hippos is greek for horse and potamos is river, so river horse. Which explains also where the river Potomac comes from - it's the river River!

AstonZagato

12,704 posts

210 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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Classics (the very epitome of "a bit PH private") is an excellent all round education. One gains an understanding of the languages, literature, history, philosophy, art and architecture that shaped the modern world. Also, the logical structures of the language make it a surprisingly useful basis for learning computer programming.

motco

15,962 posts

246 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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AstonZagato said:
Classics (the very epitome of "a bit PH private") is an excellent all round education. One gains an understanding of the languages, literature, history, philosophy, art and architecture that shaped the modern world. Also, the logical structures of the language make it a surprisingly useful basis for learning computer programming.
Wasn't Enoch Powell a classical scholar? Just asking...

lowdrag

12,893 posts

213 months

Sunday 12th July 2015
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motco said:
Wasn't Enoch Powell a classical scholar? Just asking...
Yes, and of course one can see where you are coming from. I had the privilege of having dinner with him in Portsmouth in, IIRC, 1968. A more erudite, intelligent and charming man you would have difficulty in finding.

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