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This looks relatively tame, bloke had died an laid in the property for sometime (off camera, you wouldn't want to see it), place fills up with maggots and bluebottles.
Clearing up after a death is a common part of what we do, sometimes the places are perfectly presentable but the smell is indescribable:
A few from just generally rough places, all of these had been recently habitated:
Junkies flat. Some of these are close ups of what you find when you open a draw. There can be thousands of used syringes spread amongst all the rubbish, many still full of blood. Junkies love to hide them in places you wont expect so you will get a sharps injury, mattress linings, behind cupboard doors, sticking up out of carpets that sort of thing. A lot of care is required when working in these places:
Clearing up after a death is a common part of what we do, sometimes the places are perfectly presentable but the smell is indescribable:
A few from just generally rough places, all of these had been recently habitated:
Junkies flat. Some of these are close ups of what you find when you open a draw. There can be thousands of used syringes spread amongst all the rubbish, many still full of blood. Junkies love to hide them in places you wont expect so you will get a sharps injury, mattress linings, behind cupboard doors, sticking up out of carpets that sort of thing. A lot of care is required when working in these places:
This next place had a family, two adults, three kids and a dog. This is exactly how they left it when they walked out:
This bloke was still living in this place with his elderly Mother, you're looking at his bedroom:
Random druggies kitchen worktop from the other day:
A lady had been living in this place for years, the photos really don't do it justice:
I have loads more and plenty much worse but can't post them for one reason or another.
This bloke was still living in this place with his elderly Mother, you're looking at his bedroom:
Random druggies kitchen worktop from the other day:
A lady had been living in this place for years, the photos really don't do it justice:
I have loads more and plenty much worse but can't post them for one reason or another.
wolfracesonic said:
Got to ask, why the pissing in a bottle?
Because often they completely destroy their places, everything smashed, ripped out or full up with...well, you can imagine. So they piss in bottles, sometimes there are hundreds of them, they also defecate (swear filter!) in carrier bags or buckets or on the draining board or wherever else happens to take their fancy.They will then happily live amongst it all for as long as they can get away with it.
br d said:
Because often they completely destroy their places, everything smashed, ripped out or full up with...well, you can imagine. So they piss in bottles, sometimes there are hundreds of them, they also defecate (swear filter!) in carrier bags or buckets or on the draining board or wherever else happens to take their fancy.
They will then happily live amongst it all for as long as they can get away with it.
You must have a stomach made of steel. Call me pampered, but I honestly didn't realise anyone, ever, really lived like that.They will then happily live amongst it all for as long as they can get away with it.
I've nothing but respect for the work you do, whilst I sit in a nice clean office and complain when I get a few crumbs in my keyboard.
Willy Nilly said:
gus607 said:
These people are lower than council, they are sub-human.
It's quite tragic if you ask me. Some people just can't cope, why would anyone screw up their lives on drugs and live like that? Br D- I'm one of the few who does get it, after having worked in social housing for 20 odd years.
To my other ph'rs- you'd be surprised how normal and coherrent some people are but then you to find them living like this. Although their clothes and stench will give it away.
clearly mental health issues and fortunately it tends to be single people. It's rarer to see families- but it does happen.
I guess with families there are grandparents, friends and so on visting their homes and to some degree it makes people make some vague effort to clean a little.
tragic stuff, but guess what happens ? the landlord sucks up the cost and these people just drop into another home and start a (un) fresh.
Fundamentally if you have children, you have a safety net till they are 18, which is a good thing.
I dealt with a family who had built and entire wall across their through lounge to stack rubbish behind. Leaving say 1/4 qtr living space, 3/4 piled refuse.
even the floorboards and bath panel had been lifted to stack refuse.
Both adults actually worked too.
But I can give you no explanation as to why they couldn't put their rubbish out. Emptying that house took a fleet of high sided tipper trucks.
Again one of the worst houses I've been in, the tenant was the head waitress/manager of a massive restaurant.
But went home and urinated in milk bottles, I mean wtf ?
Funniest moment, in literally the worst house I have even been in. watching a surveyor pick up a cardboard tube, slide the glass cylinder from it, holding it in bare hands wondering what it was.
Myself and another mgr in hysterics.
it was- well you remember austin powers getting his items back after having been frozen.
well it was a gentlemans "pump".
So our tenant was living in a house, with the 1st flr unusable due to animal and human waste, living downstairs urinating in bottles and living on baked beans.
and he thought what he needs to attract a lady, is a "pump" !!!!!!!!!!
To my other ph'rs- you'd be surprised how normal and coherrent some people are but then you to find them living like this. Although their clothes and stench will give it away.
clearly mental health issues and fortunately it tends to be single people. It's rarer to see families- but it does happen.
I guess with families there are grandparents, friends and so on visting their homes and to some degree it makes people make some vague effort to clean a little.
tragic stuff, but guess what happens ? the landlord sucks up the cost and these people just drop into another home and start a (un) fresh.
Fundamentally if you have children, you have a safety net till they are 18, which is a good thing.
I dealt with a family who had built and entire wall across their through lounge to stack rubbish behind. Leaving say 1/4 qtr living space, 3/4 piled refuse.
even the floorboards and bath panel had been lifted to stack refuse.
Both adults actually worked too.
But I can give you no explanation as to why they couldn't put their rubbish out. Emptying that house took a fleet of high sided tipper trucks.
Again one of the worst houses I've been in, the tenant was the head waitress/manager of a massive restaurant.
But went home and urinated in milk bottles, I mean wtf ?
Funniest moment, in literally the worst house I have even been in. watching a surveyor pick up a cardboard tube, slide the glass cylinder from it, holding it in bare hands wondering what it was.
Myself and another mgr in hysterics.
it was- well you remember austin powers getting his items back after having been frozen.
well it was a gentlemans "pump".
So our tenant was living in a house, with the 1st flr unusable due to animal and human waste, living downstairs urinating in bottles and living on baked beans.
and he thought what he needs to attract a lady, is a "pump" !!!!!!!!!!
jmorgan said:
Willy Nilly said:
gus607 said:
These people are lower than council, they are sub-human.
It's quite tragic if you ask me. Some people just can't cope, why would anyone screw up their lives on drugs and live like that? austinsmirk said:
Br D- I'm one of the few who does get it, after having worked in social housing for 20 odd years.
To my other ph'rs- you'd be surprised how normal and coherrent some people are but then you to find them living like this. Although their clothes and stench will give it away.
clearly mental health issues and fortunately it tends to be single people. It's rarer to see families- but it does happen.
I guess with families there are grandparents, friends and so on visting their homes and to some degree it makes people make some vague effort to clean a little.
tragic stuff, but guess what happens ? the landlord sucks up the cost and these people just drop into another home and start a (un) fresh.
Fundamentally if you have children, you have a safety net till they are 18, which is a good thing.
I dealt with a family who had built and entire wall across their through lounge to stack rubbish behind. Leaving say 1/4 qtr living space, 3/4 piled refuse.
even the floorboards and bath panel had been lifted to stack refuse.
Both adults actually worked too.
But I can give you no explanation as to why they couldn't put their rubbish out. Emptying that house took a fleet of high sided tipper trucks.
Again one of the worst houses I've been in, the tenant was the head waitress/manager of a massive restaurant.
But went home and urinated in milk bottles, I mean wtf ?
Funniest moment, in literally the worst house I have even been in. watching a surveyor pick up a cardboard tube, slide the glass cylinder from it, holding it in bare hands wondering what it was.
Myself and another mgr in hysterics.
it was- well you remember austin powers getting his items back after having been frozen.
well it was a gentlemans "pump".
So our tenant was living in a house, with the 1st flr unusable due to animal and human waste, living downstairs urinating in bottles and living on baked beans.
and he thought what he needs to attract a lady, is a "pump" !!!!!!!!!!
Austin, we could exchange stories for months! I've been doing this for 30 years and I've seen everything, many times over.To my other ph'rs- you'd be surprised how normal and coherrent some people are but then you to find them living like this. Although their clothes and stench will give it away.
clearly mental health issues and fortunately it tends to be single people. It's rarer to see families- but it does happen.
I guess with families there are grandparents, friends and so on visting their homes and to some degree it makes people make some vague effort to clean a little.
tragic stuff, but guess what happens ? the landlord sucks up the cost and these people just drop into another home and start a (un) fresh.
Fundamentally if you have children, you have a safety net till they are 18, which is a good thing.
I dealt with a family who had built and entire wall across their through lounge to stack rubbish behind. Leaving say 1/4 qtr living space, 3/4 piled refuse.
even the floorboards and bath panel had been lifted to stack refuse.
Both adults actually worked too.
But I can give you no explanation as to why they couldn't put their rubbish out. Emptying that house took a fleet of high sided tipper trucks.
Again one of the worst houses I've been in, the tenant was the head waitress/manager of a massive restaurant.
But went home and urinated in milk bottles, I mean wtf ?
Funniest moment, in literally the worst house I have even been in. watching a surveyor pick up a cardboard tube, slide the glass cylinder from it, holding it in bare hands wondering what it was.
Myself and another mgr in hysterics.
it was- well you remember austin powers getting his items back after having been frozen.
well it was a gentlemans "pump".
So our tenant was living in a house, with the 1st flr unusable due to animal and human waste, living downstairs urinating in bottles and living on baked beans.
and he thought what he needs to attract a lady, is a "pump" !!!!!!!!!!
I cleared a small 1 bedroom flat on the second floor which had 17 tonnes of rubbish in it, a 3 bed house with 35 tonnes and places where there was only just room to sidle in and sit in a single chair, this being the spot the tenant had eaten, slept and shat for many years. I've worked in places where there are large holes through to the floor below from years of pissing on the floor once the toilets have been filled, a whole family crapping in carrier bags then throwing them out of the window leaving a pile in the garden the height of a shed, and rooms that have become inaccessible due to the level of waste which literally getting taken back by nature, forcing my way into a kitchen that resembled the middle of a forest.
I've scooped three inch deep gunk from floors that is all that remains of people who have decomposed in front of an electric fire or have laid unnoticed through a hot summer, I've been in flats so infested that the roaches are dropping on your head from the ceiling or you'll be bitten on every exposed piece of skin by the fleas before you could see them. I've stood in a house discussing with the family how we are going to help them clear the ceiling high rubbish while watching the hair on their 11 year old sons head moving from the bugs living in it. I've known people who will climb up the rubbish and filth to a mattress they have slung on the top and sleep with their face 6 inches from the ceiling, for years, cleared bucket after bucket overspilling with excrement and covering most of the floor space of the house. Whatever you can think of I've seen worse.
Some people have been talking of tragedy and pity and for where vulnerable people are concerned I concur. Over the years we have worked for many Social and Mental Health departments and I have carried out work at well below a profitable rate on countless occasions simple because I could see that these people wouldn't get help otherwise. All the members of my team are trained to be caring and helpful in these situations which is why I get a lot of referral work, we have always put peoples needs first and I'm proud of that.
In one respect however I would completely disagree - heroin addicts.
I've dealt with these people for years and the hardcore junkies get no sympathy from me whatsoever, they are quite simply the lowest form of human existence. They will attack you, steal from you, abuse anybody they see as weak, make decent peoples lives a wretched misery and laugh at it, they will milk every penny they can from every possible source and are the most monumentally selfish b
ds you will ever encounter. They leave behind wrecked kids and desperate family members like so much litter. They'll spit in your face knowing full well they are carrying Hep C or similar or lunge at you with a dirty needle. There are many people who've taken wrong turns in life and I'm all for giving them help and support but when it comes to the real scumbag, hardcore junkies I couldn't give a f
k. They started sticking needles in themselves in full knowledge of where it would take them and with no consideration for anybody else.I realise I sound harsh here but until you've had to deal with the fall out from this lot, repeatedly, you can't really imagine it.
Of course, I keep a professional attitude throughout my dealings with them because that's business but privately i have zero time for them.
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