a bit council

[Dog Star]

lord trumpton said:

I had the misfortune to drive through Leigh in Lancashire the other day and spotted two shops totally devoted to selling these contraptions.

I had to collect my motorbike from Barnsley last week: I have never seen as many "vaping" shops - all over the place.

On the upside it was heaving with rough council totty, including chubby ones in those see-through leggings

[Truckosaurus]

I learnt from a colleague that one of the appeals of vaping shops/cafes is that you can 'smoke' inside, whereas many normal pubs/cafes ban vaping.

[berlintaxi]

Dog Star said:

I had to collect my motorbike from Barnsley last week: I have never seen as many "vaping" shops - all over the place.

On the upside it was heaving with rough council totty, including chubby ones in those see-through leggings

[nicanary]

berlintaxi said:

Dog Star said:

I had to collect my motorbike from Barnsley last week: I have never seen as many "vaping" shops - all over the place.

On the upside it was heaving with rough council totty, including chubby ones in those see-through leggings

From the film "Gran Posterior".

[Morningside]

MWM3 said:

Budflicker said:

Great Yarmouth is definetly council having stopped by there today, managed to escape alive and retreated back to civilisation in Holt.

Boy that place is rough and that's coming from someone who grew up in Chatham....

Yes it is.

About 12 years ago I had a couple of nights out in Yarmouth (you can't call it Great), it was shocking, I witnessed a dwarf resisting arrest, my mate was started on because he asked if he could use an unused chair and most shockingly we were sstopped and seaeched by the police as there were reports of a machette welding nutter roaming the steeets.

I was once offered sex in exchange for a cigarette.

Went there one afternoon near the funfair and it looked like the whole of the Essex travailing community decided to turn up for a holiday parking all their 'vans in the middle of the road.

[motco]

Morningside said:

I was once offered sex in exchange for a cigarette.

Went there one afternoon near the funfair and it looked like the whole of the Essex travailing community decided to turn up for a holiday parking all their 'vans in the middle of the road.

Ironically, 'travail' means arduous work. Highly unlikely in this context!

[Ganglandboss]

Morningside said:

MWM3 said:

Budflicker said:

Great Yarmouth is definetly council having stopped by there today, managed to escape alive and retreated back to civilisation in Holt.

Boy that place is rough and that's coming from someone who grew up in Chatham....

Yes it is.

About 12 years ago I had a couple of nights out in Yarmouth (you can't call it Great), it was shocking, I witnessed a dwarf resisting arrest, my mate was started on because he asked if he could use an unused chair and most shockingly we were sstopped and seaeched by the police as there were reports of a machette welding nutter roaming the steeets.

I was once offered sex in exchange for a cigarette.

Went there one afternoon near the funfair and it looked like the whole of the Essex travailing community decided to turn up for a holiday parking all their 'vans in the middle of the road.

Our regional chav resorts is Blackpool, which is often promoted as the 'Vegas of the north'. Some may scoff, but one thing Blackpool and Vegas do have in common is you can pay for sex with chips!

[anonymous-user]

ezi said:

lord trumpton said:

These vape things are becoming a bit council.

I had the misfortune to drive through Leigh in Lancashire the other day and spotted two shops totally devoted to selling these contraptions.

Aren't they a cheap way for hard up smokers to get their fix on the cheap?

It's just as council as regular smoking.

It's more-so, now, because it's also a fashion thing.

In fact, I'd say a hand-rolled cigarette, in a liquorice paper (natch), will soon become aspirational.

[nicanary]

OpulentBob said:

ezi said:

lord trumpton said:

These vape things are becoming a bit council.

I had the misfortune to drive through Leigh in Lancashire the other day and spotted two shops totally devoted to selling these contraptions.

Aren't they a cheap way for hard up smokers to get their fix on the cheap?

It's just as council as regular smoking.

It's more-so, now, because it's also a fashion thing.

In fact, I'd say a hand-rolled cigarette, in a liquorice paper (natch), will soon become aspirational.

The government hoped people would use them as a way of quitting, but they're simply being used as a direct substitute. You say it's a fashion thing, but have you seen anyone holding one in anything other than an awkward way? They simply can't be held in a relaxed "cool" manner, the users always look as if they don't know how to hold it. It's not exactly a Terry-Thomas cigarette holder.

[anonymous-user]

nicanary said:

OpulentBob said:

ezi said:

lord trumpton said:

These vape things are becoming a bit council.

I had the misfortune to drive through Leigh in Lancashire the other day and spotted two shops totally devoted to selling these contraptions.

Aren't they a cheap way for hard up smokers to get their fix on the cheap?

It's just as council as regular smoking.

It's more-so, now, because it's also a fashion thing.

In fact, I'd say a hand-rolled cigarette, in a liquorice paper (natch), will soon become aspirational.

The government hoped people would use them as a way of quitting, but they're simply being used as a direct substitute. You say it's a fashion thing, but have you seen anyone holding one in anything other than an awkward way? They simply can't be held in a relaxed "cool" manner, the users always look as if they don't know how to hold it. It's not exactly a Terry-Thomas cigarette holder.

Ooh, a cigarette holder, now that is cool.

[nicanary]

OpulentBob said:

nicanary said:

OpulentBob said:

ezi said:

lord trumpton said:

These vape things are becoming a bit council.

I had the misfortune to drive through Leigh in Lancashire the other day and spotted two shops totally devoted to selling these contraptions.

Aren't they a cheap way for hard up smokers to get their fix on the cheap?

It's just as council as regular smoking.

It's more-so, now, because it's also a fashion thing.

In fact, I'd say a hand-rolled cigarette, in a liquorice paper (natch), will soon become aspirational.

The government hoped people would use them as a way of quitting, but they're simply being used as a direct substitute. You say it's a fashion thing, but have you seen anyone holding one in anything other than an awkward way? They simply can't be held in a relaxed "cool" manner, the users always look as if they don't know how to hold it. It's not exactly a Terry-Thomas cigarette holder.

Ooh, a cigarette holder, now that is cool.

. It used to be, back in the 50s.

[Goaty Bill 2]

nicanary said:

The government hoped people would use them as a way of quitting, but they're simply being used as a direct substitute. You say it's a fashion thing, but have you seen anyone holding one in anything other than an awkward way? They simply can't be held in a relaxed "cool" manner, the users always look as if they don't know how to hold it. It's not exactly a Terry-Thomas cigarette holder.

I was in a (one of the few remaining) tobacconists a while back, buying some pipe tobacco and a few cigars. While I was there, there were two separate people enquiring about 'vaping' machinery, though neither had smoked previously.
That indicates to me that it has actually become some sort of fashion symbol or accessory.

You are absolutely correct IMO; it generally looks awkward as Hell, and a lot of them are uncomfortably heavy it seems as well (even by a pipe smoker's standards).

It may well be all the candy flavoured goo that you can buy to put in them that helps make them popular.

There is often a very large gap between style and fashion.

[otolith]

nicanary said:

The government hoped people would use them as a way of quitting, but they're simply being used as a direct substitute. You say it's a fashion thing, but have you seen anyone holding one in anything other than an awkward way? They simply can't be held in a relaxed "cool" manner, the users always look as if they don't know how to hold it. It's not exactly a Terry-Thomas cigarette holder.

Even if they don't quit, the amount of harm they are doing to themselves is drastically reduced. If they subsequently do decide to quit, it's quite easy for them to gradually reduce the nicotine content of their liquid.

[Goaty Bill 2]

otolith said:

Even if they don't quit, the amount of harm they are doing to themselves is drastically reduced. If they subsequently do decide to quit, it's quite easy for them to gradually reduce the nicotine content of their liquid.

In spite of my earlier post, that reasoning did always seem more than a little reasonable.
And in spite of my own preferences (i.e. slow agonising death apparently), if it's helping someone to cut down/quit, and that's what they want, I am for it and good luck to them.

Simply poking fun at the alleged coolness of it personally.

[motco]

otolith said:

nicanary said:

The government hoped people would use them as a way of quitting, but they're simply being used as a direct substitute. You say it's a fashion thing, but have you seen anyone holding one in anything other than an awkward way? They simply can't be held in a relaxed "cool" manner, the users always look as if they don't know how to hold it. It's not exactly a Terry-Thomas cigarette holder.

Even if they don't quit, the amount of harm they are doing to themselves is drastically reduced. If they subsequently do decide to quit, it's quite easy for them to gradually reduce the nicotine content of their liquid.

Can you be sure of that? Decades of tobacco smoking failed to reveal the true harm; vaping has existed for a fraction of that time.

[otolith]

motco said:

otolith said:

Even if they don't quit, the amount of harm they are doing to themselves is drastically reduced.

Can you be sure of that? Decades of tobacco smoking failed to reveal the true harm; vaping has existed for a fraction of that time.

Reasonably, yes, based on analyses of what they are actually inhaling. Being drastically less harmful than tobacco smoke is not a high bar.

[otolith]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

otolith said:

Even if they don't quit, the amount of harm they are doing to themselves is drastically reduced. If they subsequently do decide to quit, it's quite easy for them to gradually reduce the nicotine content of their liquid.

In spite of my earlier post, that reasoning did always seem more than a little reasonable.
And in spite of my own preferences (i.e. slow agonising death apparently), if it's helping someone to cut down/quit, and that's what they want, I am for it and good luck to them.

Simply poking fun at the alleged coolness of it personally.

Yes, it's beyond me that anyone thinks it's cool. But that's not unusual, I'm probably just massively out of touch (and always have been). People used to think that smoking was cool too.

[motco]

otolith said:

motco said:

otolith said:

Even if they don't quit, the amount of harm they are doing to themselves is drastically reduced.

Can you be sure of that? Decades of tobacco smoking failed to reveal the true harm; vaping has existed for a fraction of that time.

Reasonably, yes, based on analyses of what they are actually inhaling. Being drastically less harmful than tobacco smoke is not a high bar.

Fair enough! But don't come crying to me..........

[otolith]

motco said:

Fair enough! But don't come crying to me..........

I think it's probably comparable to wondering about how risky an addiction to medical grade morphine is, when the alternative involves boiling stuff up to inject in a teaspoon. I have a slight concern about how risky some of the flavourings might be, given that they have only been found safe to eat, not to inhale, and there has already been one scandal about the use of a compound known to be dangerous (you now have suppliers producing independent gas chromatography certificates proving that their stuff doesn't contain it) but compared to the known nasties in burnt tobacco leaves, it's a slight concern.

[Zoon]

Not to mention the harm they are doing to their street cred by sucking on what appears to be a walkie talkie.
Ridiculous. Just stop smoking and have done with it.