Any C of E bods answer me a question please?

Any C of E bods answer me a question please?

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anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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jdw100 said:
I might apply!

Do you still have to believe in all that god stuff or is that optional?
A popular local vicar near where I live was chatting to me and my dad in our office one day at Christmas and freely admitted he didn't believe it and the bible/nativity stuff was "just a nice story".

So on that basis, no, I don't think you have to believe anything!

vx220

2,689 posts

233 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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I think I'd make a good vicar

This "flying vicar" role you describe sounds right up my street, hopefully avoiding lots of paperwork

TwigtheWonderkid

43,248 posts

149 months

Tuesday 20th January 2015
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The Turbonator said:
How does one become a vicar? I'm an atheist, so hardly think I would be suitable.
I wouldn't be so sure. Look at the old Bishop of Durham. In fact, atheism seems to be a positive advantage in the C of E.

jdw100

4,069 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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NinjaPower said:
A popular local vicar near where I live was chatting to me and my dad in our office one day at Christmas and freely admitted he didn't believe it and the bible/nativity stuff was "just a nice story".

So on that basis, no, I don't think you have to believe anything!
I guess like a lot of jobs you don't actually have to believe in your company.

A bit like selling BMWs but driving an Audi. Do the C of E vicar job during the day, get home take off the dog collar and revert back to being a Jew or Muslim.


jdw100

4,069 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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R_U_LOCAL said:
You could always kick Bishop Brennan up the arse:


So...good news then Ted?

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

178 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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jdw100 said:
NinjaPower said:
A popular local vicar near where I live was chatting to me and my dad in our office one day at Christmas and freely admitted he didn't believe it and the bible/nativity stuff was "just a nice story".

So on that basis, no, I don't think you have to believe anything!
I guess like a lot of jobs you don't actually have to believe in your company.

A bit like selling BMWs but driving an Audi. Do the C of E vicar job during the day, get home take off the dog collar and revert back to being a Jew or Muslim.
What's the salary? whistle

jdw100

4,069 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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RobinBanks said:
What's the salary? whistle
Don't know but I think you get a free house? As in a place to live, not a pub.

jdw100

4,069 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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RobinBanks said:
What's the salary? whistle
Here you go:

Curates (trainee vicars in their first four years of service to the church) earn around £15,000 per annum.
The starting salary for fully ordained vicars is £17,000 per annum.
Experienced vicars working in larger parishes earn between £20,000 and £28,000 per annum.
There are other benefits to working as a vicar such as free housing, usually in a rectory attached to or nearby the church.

So say £25,000 but no mortgage or rent....interested?

widebloke

590 posts

273 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Don't forget the constant phone calls and visitors at all times of the day and night, non existent weekends, diva brides and their family's at weddings, christening screaming babies, burying children that you christened only a few years earlier (hard frown )burying friends and relatives, Christmas and Easter time off is a thing of the past, not being able to walk to the local shop on your day off as people keep stopping to talk about parish things, very little social life outside of church events (necessary to maintain at least some private life) and a normal working week of 70-80 hours, every week (no overtime either)

Still want to do it for £20k a year?.....

I know all this as my mother was a vicar for 20 odd years she is now retired, not that you would know it, as she still does chaplaincy work and counselling around the parish and holiday cover for the parish where they now live so probably clocks 30-40 hours a week aged 70 odd!

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

178 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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It did seem like a good idea because our parish vicar when I was a kid seemed to have plenty of time to get pissed in the pub, but maybe not.

Can anyone recommend it? Do we have any vicars here?

Gargamel

14,958 posts

260 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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jdw100 said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
You could always kick Bishop Brennan up the arse:


So...good news then Ted?
Wrong religion, close, but no incense burner

Eric Mc

121,784 posts

264 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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I have to say, Catholic bishops do seem to have all the fun.

Flip Martian

19,505 posts

189 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Our local priest (its a non denominational church really - mix of C of E and catholic I think) seems to rarely have time off. My wife attends church, I don't. She says there's a lot of pressure from the church for him to constantly raise funds etc. And this in a village. He operates between our church and 1 in the next village and has done a lot to involve community groups and get church attendances up apparently. To be honest, he seems to more than earn his salary. As said above, 1 of those jobs where you can't just clock off.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

241 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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widebloke said:
Don't forget the constant phone calls and visitors at all times of the day and night, non existent weekends, diva brides and their family's at weddings, christening screaming babies, burying children that you christened only a few years earlier (hard frown )burying friends and relatives, Christmas and Easter time off is a thing of the past, not being able to walk to the local shop on your day off as people keep stopping to talk about parish things, very little social life outside of church events (necessary to maintain at least some private life) and a normal working week of 70-80 hours, every week (no overtime either)

Still want to do it for £20k a year?.....

I know all this as my mother was a vicar for 20 odd years she is now retired, not that you would know it, as she still does chaplaincy work and counselling around the parish and holiday cover for the parish where they now live so probably clocks 30-40 hours a week aged 70 odd!
My grandfather was a vicar and it was very much the same upon tetirement, he did 'locum' work in several parishes and there was a constant stream of requests for weddings, christenings etc by previous parishioners, he'd done the weddings, funerals and christenings for many generations of some families.

He was working pretty heavily up until a couple of weeks before his death.

ApOrbital

9,942 posts

117 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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My old vicar is an alcoholic very funny spent most of his time in the pub next door to the church.

jdw100

4,069 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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ApOrbital said:
My old vicar is an alcoholic very funny spent most of his time in the pub next door to the church.
When I was a lad - back in the 80's - the local vicar used to drink all the time in the Royal Oak and then stagger absolutely pished back to his house at least three times a week. I remember seeing him staggering along the road.

He got knocked over on the pedestrian crossing three times! Third time polished him off.

Not sure what brand of christianity he was - The Reverend Yeand was his name, if I recall correctly.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

178 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Every member of the clergy I can recall meeting has been a massive pisshead.

boyse7en

6,671 posts

164 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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What do they do about housing when they retire?

Do they have to put aside enough each month out of the salary to buy a house mortgage-free at 65?

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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boyse7en said:
What do they do about housing when they retire?

Do they have to put aside enough each month out of the salary to buy a house mortgage-free at 65?
I'm guessing they have a pension scheme of some sort?

SilverSixer

8,202 posts

150 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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boyse7en said:
What do they do about housing when they retire?

Do they have to put aside enough each month out of the salary to buy a house mortgage-free at 65?
Old vicars' homes, isn't it? Don't the church provide shared accommodation for elderly retired vicars? I'd always assusmed as much, bit maybe not. After all, a lot get married.

My mate (non-clergy bloke) married a vicar (bird). They live in a nice rural Rectory, jammy sods. I'll have to stick my nose in next time I see him.