Threatened by a scally.
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duckwhistle said:
If you travel in risky places,carry in your pocket a co2 bike tyre inflator,the type with a trigger. A quick blast of co2 produces an auto gasp reflex and a lung full of co2 resulting in temporary suffocation and partial collapse. Then you choose, escape or punish.
Scum at your car , shouting thug, punching your window, quickly full left lock and reverse gear,rev and drop clutch. Problem solved. Again, escape or punish, your choice.
Without a bike you'd be looking at an offensive weapon charge. Now spray on Deep Heat, oily hard to remove hot spray stuff...... Well we all get pulled muscles don't we.Scum at your car , shouting thug, punching your window, quickly full left lock and reverse gear,rev and drop clutch. Problem solved. Again, escape or punish, your choice.
I've often wondered how a laser pointer may be used in close quarters.
It's the issue of a legal weapon. I worked long ago at a building that had a big print works attatched. Plenty of Scally interest as it was on the edge of Council.hiouse heaven, Our security staff told me a length of heavy duty electrical flex which they found lying on the ground was an effective problem solver.
The thing is in most if these situations us "the normal people" are minding our own business when some knob decides to have a go.
About 9 years ago the then current missus decides she wants to go shopping one Sunday to the glades in Bromley. We are walking through there just chatting and I noticed a group of five chavs walking toward us pushing past people and just being rowdy.
One of them decides it's a good idea to hit me round the back of the head with his carrier bag as they bundle past. My instant reaction was wtf is your problem. Next thing I know I have the ringleader nose to nose with me asking me if I have a problem. The missus is so shocked she is quiet for once. Me and the ringleader are having words, him trying to be the big man - me saying to him I haven't got a beef with him but I have with the
who hit me. As this is going on I realise I'm surrounded by them all and I'm now thinking this isn't going to end well for me.
Matey who hit me is filling his trousers because I am also pointing at him and tell his mate who is still nose to nose with me that I still have an issue with being hit whilst walking along minding my own business.
Some seconds later I hear more shouting and there is an elderly black lady who is intervening and having a go at the chavs, then they leg it as the security guards have come running after them as they have obviously been causing mayhem elsewhere.
Then that's it all over. I am left standing there thinking what the hell just happened and what should I have done? The missus is saying report it and also that she couldn't believe that I didn't lump at least one of them.
I still think it over now and wonder what I should have done. I didn't back down but by the same token I didn't hit anyone.
Seems to be the way it is now, they only pick on who they think are easy targets I guess and rely on strength in numbers. Boils my piss!
Oh and Harry's post that was linked earlier was one of the best rants I have read on here. Also Jacko the peanuts - you are a legend!
About 9 years ago the then current missus decides she wants to go shopping one Sunday to the glades in Bromley. We are walking through there just chatting and I noticed a group of five chavs walking toward us pushing past people and just being rowdy.
One of them decides it's a good idea to hit me round the back of the head with his carrier bag as they bundle past. My instant reaction was wtf is your problem. Next thing I know I have the ringleader nose to nose with me asking me if I have a problem. The missus is so shocked she is quiet for once. Me and the ringleader are having words, him trying to be the big man - me saying to him I haven't got a beef with him but I have with the
who hit me. As this is going on I realise I'm surrounded by them all and I'm now thinking this isn't going to end well for me. Matey who hit me is filling his trousers because I am also pointing at him and tell his mate who is still nose to nose with me that I still have an issue with being hit whilst walking along minding my own business.
Some seconds later I hear more shouting and there is an elderly black lady who is intervening and having a go at the chavs, then they leg it as the security guards have come running after them as they have obviously been causing mayhem elsewhere.
Then that's it all over. I am left standing there thinking what the hell just happened and what should I have done? The missus is saying report it and also that she couldn't believe that I didn't lump at least one of them.
I still think it over now and wonder what I should have done. I didn't back down but by the same token I didn't hit anyone.
Seems to be the way it is now, they only pick on who they think are easy targets I guess and rely on strength in numbers. Boils my piss!
Oh and Harry's post that was linked earlier was one of the best rants I have read on here. Also Jacko the peanuts - you are a legend!
TurboHatchback said:
I wouldn't bother personally but maybe one should report such behavior to the police? I'm sure threatening to 'kick the fk out of you' constitutes some form of offence and someone like that is probably known to the police.
'.....using threatening or intimidating behaviour which may cause a breach of the peace, or whereby a breach of the peace may be occasioned......"k out of you' constitutes some form of offence and someone like that is probably known to the police.Or words similar to that, as I seem to recall from my scurrilous youth.....
duckwhistle said:
If you travel in risky places,carry in your pocket a co2 bike tyre inflator,the type with a trigger. A quick blast of co2 produces an auto gasp reflex and a lung full of co2 resulting in temporary suffocation and partial collapse. Then you choose, escape or punish.
Scum at your car , shouting thug, punching your window, quickly full left lock and reverse gear,rev and drop clutch. Problem solved. Again, escape or punish, your choice.
Pfft, carry a small jar of Tesco Finest* Mustard (with honey) in your pocket. If anyone kicks off, smear it in their eyes and nostrils. Scum at your car , shouting thug, punching your window, quickly full left lock and reverse gear,rev and drop clutch. Problem solved. Again, escape or punish, your choice.
Or any other stupid idea.
Hooli said:
nitrodave said:
98elise said:
A bloke I used to work with was done for ABH after finding an intruder in his home. This was a 60 year old man arriving home to find a scrote hiding behind a door in his living room.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr this angers me so much, he should have got a medal, not a criminal record!The bloke was ex para.
He always used to tell his wife to shut all doors before she went to bed because it was safer in a fire.When he arrived home he knew something was wrong as the living room door was open. As he walked to the door he could see the scrote through the gap in the door.
He pulled the door open with a fist raised, and decked the scrote with one punch.
His downfall was that when asked at his trial how the scrote ended up with a broken jaw, he explained it that he was trying to kill him with a punch to the throat, but missed and hit his jaw (breaking it).
Totally justified in my eyes.
TwistingMyMelon said:
You did well OP, just shrug it off and walk home, unless you enjoy fighting and violence ignore it
I thought I was away from the chavs and scallys where I live, quiet village full of pensioners, II was out walking dogs .
Anyway was walking the dogs , when one decides to do the biggest poo ever , he was squatting for bloody ages whilst Im waiting for him, not in the best of moods after a st day at work.
Just as I'm managing to bag it up a car pulls up alongside, I turn, they scream something and pelt me with eggs. Fortunately they all miss, god knows how the blind cn*ts did as they were a metre away, but a few hit my dogs. They then pull away quite slowly, I look and try and memorise the plate.
They then turn left, I know there are traffic lights down there that always stay on red for bloody ages, that's it something snapped inside. I grab the dogs and we sprint round the road after them in hot pursuit.
I get round the corner and sure enough they are sat at the lights, no other cars about, they are sat there with the passenger window open. I run up to the car and they sit there, I'm thinking they must have seen me and are waiting to egg me again, I didn't give a fck though as I had the biggest bag of poo in my hand Ive ever had the pleasure of carrying.
So I walk up to the passenger window and turn in, they don't even notice, they are all sat looking forward pishing themselves with laughter over their latest egging. I then screamed out some kind advice, that featured the C word lots, the look on their face was priceless. As I was shouting I stepped back and lobbed the bag of poo as hard as I could straight at the drivers face/chest.
I didn't get to see if it split, I'm hoping it did, I quickly retreated and they drove through the Red light after stalling it. The petrified look on their faces of a nutter screaming at them and chucking poo was enough for me.
The packed out chippie opposite gave me some funny looks after, especially as they didn't see the build up!
I was at a festival with a lot of my mates when we camped up next to a loads of dicks, they hassled everyone who was in a smaller group challenging people who were outnumbered to fights, they wouldn't say anything to us as we were in a group of about 20.I thought I was away from the chavs and scallys where I live, quiet village full of pensioners, II was out walking dogs .
Anyway was walking the dogs , when one decides to do the biggest poo ever , he was squatting for bloody ages whilst Im waiting for him, not in the best of moods after a s
t day at work.Just as I'm managing to bag it up a car pulls up alongside, I turn, they scream something and pelt me with eggs. Fortunately they all miss, god knows how the blind cn*ts did as they were a metre away, but a few hit my dogs. They then pull away quite slowly, I look and try and memorise the plate.
They then turn left, I know there are traffic lights down there that always stay on red for bloody ages, that's it something snapped inside. I grab the dogs and we sprint round the road after them in hot pursuit.
I get round the corner and sure enough they are sat at the lights, no other cars about, they are sat there with the passenger window open. I run up to the car and they sit there, I'm thinking they must have seen me and are waiting to egg me again, I didn't give a fck though as I had the biggest bag of poo in my hand Ive ever had the pleasure of carrying.
So I walk up to the passenger window and turn in, they don't even notice, they are all sat looking forward pishing themselves with laughter over their latest egging. I then screamed out some kind advice, that featured the C word lots, the look on their face was priceless. As I was shouting I stepped back and lobbed the bag of poo as hard as I could straight at the drivers face/chest.
I didn't get to see if it split, I'm hoping it did, I quickly retreated and they drove through the Red light after stalling it. The petrified look on their faces of a nutter screaming at them and chucking poo was enough for me.
The packed out chippie opposite gave me some funny looks after, especially as they didn't see the build up!
On the sat morning , one of our dirtier members dropped a massive dump in a tesco bag, and proceeded to launch it towards the d
head camp covering their tents in a fine brown mist,much to the hilarity of our 19 other campers.The most aggressive 3 ran out shouting and balling trying to find out who it was only to see us in tears of laughter, they quickly retreated and slept in the turd covered tents for the rest of the weekend,hassling every poor soul who dared to pass by their campsite.
rambo19 said:
Sadly, because we chose to walk away, it just gives the chavvy more power.
I used to ignore stuff like that, but not anymore, if he had spoken to me like that he would off been told to 'f*ck off'.
If he had of wanted a fight, he would of got one.
I'm not ex sas, a boxer or fighter or a hard man, just fed up with people talking to me like sh*t.
I agree.I used to ignore stuff like that, but not anymore, if he had spoken to me like that he would off been told to 'f*ck off'.
If he had of wanted a fight, he would of got one.
I'm not ex sas, a boxer or fighter or a hard man, just fed up with people talking to me like sh*t.
The kind of behaviour described by the OP must be addressed; you need to say your not happy with his manner or tell him to f*** off, whatever, but something needs to be said.
People are too afraid these days of anything that could disrupt their comfortable existence. Christ, we teach our kids to stick up to bully's and sometimes we need to do the same, set an example and damn the consequences.
Sometimes you have to let the chips fall where they may.
I've had experience of this stuff over the past two days where I work. Threats of violence to staff from someone who has previous elsewhere (including threatening to come back with a gun). Started at 8.30am Thursday morning...police turn up at 1pm Friday, he's probably arrested at 4pm. Makes you wonder what we were expected to do in the meantime.
Rawwr said:
Pfft, carry a small jar of Tesco Finest* Mustard (with honey) in your pocket. If anyone kicks off, smear it in their eyes and nostrils.
That is just stooping to their level, Tesco mustard indeed, a nice wholegrain mustard is what you should be carrying for self defence. Standards must be maintained 
272BHP said:
Christ, we teach our kids to stick up to bully's
Things may have changed since the 90s. But in the 90s that statement is false.Stick up to a bully = detention
Teachers are only interested in what's easiest.
On the plus side though it does teach both sides about how the police will respond in real life.
Be careful handing in AKs to your local police as you maybe done for possession of an firearm. It's an easy bust and another credit to their arrest record.
Sorry but still steaming about the guy getting 18 months for hitting an intruder found in his house and the other guy who couldn't emigrate because he defended himself. The law really is a load of fekin' cock!!!
Sorry but still steaming about the guy getting 18 months for hitting an intruder found in his house and the other guy who couldn't emigrate because he defended himself. The law really is a load of fekin' cock!!!
If, and it's a big IF, I ever got into the situation of disabling an intruder, I'm aint going to dial 999, and say 'I think I've killed a burglar', am I? Nope. He's going into my big wheelie bin, get pushed around the corner, and dumped in the woods for Mr. Foxies breakfast. But if you live near a pig farm it's well known fact that pigs will eat anything.
98elise said:
Hooli said:
nitrodave said:
98elise said:
A bloke I used to work with was done for ABH after finding an intruder in his home. This was a 60 year old man arriving home to find a scrote hiding behind a door in his living room.
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr this angers me so much, he should have got a medal, not a criminal record!The bloke was ex para.
He always used to tell his wife to shut all doors before she went to bed because it was safer in a fire.When he arrived home he knew something was wrong as the living room door was open. As he walked to the door he could see the scrote through the gap in the door.
He pulled the door open with a fist raised, and decked the scrote with one punch.
His downfall was that when asked at his trial how the scrote ended up with a broken jaw, he explained it that he was trying to kill him with a punch to the throat, but missed and hit his jaw (breaking it).
Totally justified in my eyes.
The abiding tenet is to avoid confrontation, avoid violence, how to look for escape routes, but also how to defend yourself if it is unavoidable. Blokes tend to default to wanting to deliver a bout ending "Rocky" punch but in reality, that leaves you dangerously open to counter attack and is fairly easy to defend against, plus you are very likely, ungloved to break your own hand, a good rule of thumb is to hit hard points with a soft one, i.e. palm of the hand to the head, this can deliver a very effect blunt force blow, or alternatively, pointed, rigid fingers to the throat, beenn on the end of both delivered by the instructor, gently and it f
king hurts.Chavs love the "come on then" thing where they put their hands up inviting you to have ago, they get right in your face leaving their face undefended and some particularity inviting appendages to grab and twist, like most martial arts, it is all about physics and using someone's weight against them, it isnt graceful, it is just very effective.
Most of it is obvious when you try it, I understand it but dont have the muscle memory to do it, should have carried on with it, but I do know a few things that may help against an untrained but aggressive assailant, once I have exhausted any other avenue, still practice the odd thing, I can still get a kick up to almost six foot.
J4CKO said:
The bit of Krav Maga I did made me realise that, with some training, anyone can be able to defend themselves, having been on the end of a few demonstrations and been dropped, painfully with minimal effort by the instructor.
IIRC one of the earliest lessons you get taught in Krav Maga is that no matter how good you are, if the other guy has a knife you will get hurt? Yazar said:
J4CKO said:
The bit of Krav Maga I did made me realise that, with some training, anyone can be able to defend themselves, having been on the end of a few demonstrations and been dropped, painfully with minimal effort by the instructor.
IIRC one of the earliest lessons you get taught in Krav Maga is that no matter how good you are, if the other guy has a knife you will get hurt? I did a three hour knife workshop the other month, on top of 10 years of martial arts, it reinforced what I already knew - you're screwed ...
It's virtually impossible not to get caught with the knife, and that's if you see it coming.
J4CKO said:
Chavs love the "come on then" thing where they put their hands up inviting you to have ago, they get right in your face leaving their face undefended and some particularity inviting appendages to grab and twist, like most martial arts, it is all about physics and using someone's weight against them, it isnt graceful, it is just very effective.
A punch anywhere down the centre line always does the trick. Nose, lips, chin, throat, heart, plexus, guts, nuts, all seem to be in a convenient nice straight line centre mass. 
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Yep.
I did a three hour knife workshop the other month, on top of 10 years of martial arts, it reinforced what I already knew - you're screwed ...
It's virtually impossible not to get caught with the knife, and that's if you see it coming.No no, apparently by simply hitting their soft bits with your hard bits, or their hard bits with your soft bits will see them off.
mph999 said:
Yazar said:
J4CKO said:
The bit of Krav Maga I did made me realise that, with some training, anyone can be able to defend themselves, having been on the end of a few demonstrations and been dropped, painfully with minimal effort by the instructor.
IIRC one of the earliest lessons you get taught in Krav Maga is that no matter how good you are, if the other guy has a knife you will get hurt? I did a three hour knife workshop the other month, on top of 10 years of martial arts, it reinforced what I already knew - you're screwed ...
It's virtually impossible not to get caught with the knife, and that's if you see it coming.
mph999 said:
Yep.
I did a three hour knife workshop the other month, on top of 10 years of martial arts, it reinforced what I already knew - you're screwed ...
It's virtually impossible not to get caught with the knife, and that's if you see it coming.
I was amazed by how much I bled (with literally no pain) when my chin was nicked by a knife when I was mugged once.I did a three hour knife workshop the other month, on top of 10 years of martial arts, it reinforced what I already knew - you're screwed ...
It's virtually impossible not to get caught with the knife, and that's if you see it coming.
RobinBanks said:
I had an odd thing not long ago.
I was at the pub smoking and someone who was pissed asked me for a cigarette. I gave him one and he asked me if he could use my lighter which I handed him. Then his friend came over and asked threateningly "why are you talking to this retard?"
I didn't know which one of us he was referring to and made that clear so he told me to shut the fk up and stop bothering his friend.
I told him that I had merely given him a cigarette and he told me again to shut the fk up and asked if I wanted a fight.
I don't know how I had indicated that that might be the case.
Had something very similar a few years back...I was at the pub smoking and someone who was pissed asked me for a cigarette. I gave him one and he asked me if he could use my lighter which I handed him. Then his friend came over and asked threateningly "why are you talking to this retard?"
I didn't know which one of us he was referring to and made that clear so he told me to shut the f
k up and stop bothering his friend. I told him that I had merely given him a cigarette and he told me again to shut the f
k up and asked if I wanted a fight.I don't know how I had indicated that that might be the case.
At Woolley Edge Services. Me going in. Bloke & lady friend coming out. Looked ok, old enough to know better and not the usual chavvy sorts that you associate with this sort of behaviour:
Him (pleasantly enough waving cig): Got a light there?
Me: Erm.No. Sorry I don't smoke.
Him(going into psycho mode): WELL WHAT SORT OF f
kING USELSSS tt ARE YOU THEN??!!! fk OFF BEFORE I fkING WELL KILL YOU, YOU !
His lady friend started giggling at this point. I suspect it was done with the sole purpose of impressing her. I just shrugged and went in which seemed to wind the pair of them up even further. No idea who he was & they weren't there him when I came back out. Perhaps the next person he tries that to 'impress' his girlfriend with that stunt will be a bit more bothered than I was & he'll end up getting stabbed in the face with a brick or something. Hopefully.
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