Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]
Discussion
BristolRich said:
Is "Fax Spam" still a thing?
Yes, it is; only these days it gets automatically routed to one of our networked printers. Not very much of it, 2-3/week; mostly seems to be dodgy car lease deal offers no-one would be interested in. Certainly has nothing to do with our headline business, anyway...Shakermaker said:
P-Jay said:
Shakermaker said:
Am I correct in my belief that the fax machine remains popular in some businesses because the details being transferred cannot be interfered with where an email could be?
Where proof of a signature is needed, or credit card details, it is preferable to send that via fax than via email, is what I am led to believe.
As an example, on recently arranging a new mortgage for my house, we had to fax a few documents as they would not accept them via email.
Some parts of the NHS still use them a lot, because they're slow to change, no other reason.Where proof of a signature is needed, or credit card details, it is preferable to send that via fax than via email, is what I am led to believe.
As an example, on recently arranging a new mortgage for my house, we had to fax a few documents as they would not accept them via email.
Any business I know that wants 'original' signatures uses scan to e-mail, but then I don't work in finance / banking any more. Even the Japanese have joined in, with their famous hand-written proposals.
When I did work in finance / banking our 'new' CRM system that they rolled out in 2007 was based around faxes and barcodes, it was a horrible, horrible mess of a thing and a waste of money, a massive, massive pile of money, more than you think possible and that's without considering everyone who had to use the steaming pile of st had to devise their own complex work-arounds, but hey the same collective mind who bought that, also bought ABM Amro about the same time and brought the whole thing to it's needed. Faxes see, tool of the lunatic.
But thanks to all replying to my question about their necessity elsewhere
walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
The Gambia and The Bahamas both say theirs have a 'The' - no-one else does
Holland does.Koninkrijk der Nederlanden? no
like many other countries, people may add a 'the' but it's not part of the name of the country, we tend to add it when the name is actually a thing, or a physical feature 'the low countries', Ukraine means 'the borderlands'
in German it's even worse, there are feminine named countries, die Schweiz, die Türkei etc, masculine named countries, der Irak, der Libanon, plural places, die Niederlände, die USA (or die Vereinigte Staaten) - but don't mix up feminine 'die' with plural 'die' cos they change! - and neuter named ones, where you wouldn't use it at all, das Polen, das Malta
and then Republik is feminine too, so if you use that it'll become die Bundesrepublik Deutschland
Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 20th January 09:48
Hugo a Gogo said:
walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
The Gambia and The Bahamas both say theirs have a 'The' - no-one else does
Holland does.Koninkrijk der Nederlanden? no
like many other countries, people may add a 'the' but it's not part of the name of the country, we tend to add it when the name is actually a thing, or a physical feature 'the low countries', Ukraine means 'the borderlands'
in German it's even worse, there are feminine named countries, die Schweiz, die Türkei etc, masculine named countries, der Irak, der Libanon, plural places, die Niederlände, die USA (or die Vereinigte Staaten) and neuter named ones, where you wouldn't use it at all, das Polen, das Malta
walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
The Gambia and The Bahamas both say theirs have a 'The' - no-one else does
Holland does.How about putting "Netherlands" in a sentence without "The" in front of it?!
you see?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/14/n...
http://www.espncricinfo.com/desert-t20-challenge/c...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-nethe...
Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 20th January 09:55
MartynVRS said:
Shakermaker said:
P-Jay said:
Shakermaker said:
Am I correct in my belief that the fax machine remains popular in some businesses because the details being transferred cannot be interfered with where an email could be?
Where proof of a signature is needed, or credit card details, it is preferable to send that via fax than via email, is what I am led to believe.
As an example, on recently arranging a new mortgage for my house, we had to fax a few documents as they would not accept them via email.
Some parts of the NHS still use them a lot, because they're slow to change, no other reason.Where proof of a signature is needed, or credit card details, it is preferable to send that via fax than via email, is what I am led to believe.
As an example, on recently arranging a new mortgage for my house, we had to fax a few documents as they would not accept them via email.
Any business I know that wants 'original' signatures uses scan to e-mail, but then I don't work in finance / banking any more. Even the Japanese have joined in, with their famous hand-written proposals.
When I did work in finance / banking our 'new' CRM system that they rolled out in 2007 was based around faxes and barcodes, it was a horrible, horrible mess of a thing and a waste of money, a massive, massive pile of money, more than you think possible and that's without considering everyone who had to use the steaming pile of st had to devise their own complex work-arounds, but hey the same collective mind who bought that, also bought ABM Amro about the same time and brought the whole thing to it's needed. Faxes see, tool of the lunatic.
But thanks to all replying to my question about their necessity elsewhere
I'm sure I've read the Japanese face enormous difficulties now and in the future, as 'typing' Japanese is soooo bloody difficult that it is acting as a brake on their economy.
walm said:
Ah. I do now.
I have been doing it wrong.
Honestly thought the "The" was always capitalised!
Probably missed this in the above, but there was a short piece on this on Radio 4 a few days ago. I have been doing it wrong.
Honestly thought the "The" was always capitalised!
Only two countries in the world have 'The' officially in their names: The Gambia and The Bahamas.
Interestingly (to me at least), one of the reasons for 'The' Gambia was because the government were concerned with the country getting mixed up with 'Zambia'.
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