Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

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Huff

3,150 posts

191 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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BristolRich said:
Is "Fax Spam" still a thing?
Yes, it is; only these days it gets automatically routed to one of our networked printers. Not very much of it, 2-3/week; mostly seems to be dodgy car lease deal offers no-one would be interested in. Certainly has nothing to do with our headline business, anyway...

Halmyre

11,190 posts

139 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Dr Murdoch said:
What would happen if Trump got assassinated tonight (Thursday)? Who would be president this time tomorrow (Friday) ?
Still be Putin.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Dr Murdoch said:
What would happen if Trump got assassinated tonight (Thursday)? Who would be president this time tomorrow (Friday) ?
Pence

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Hugo a Gogo said:
The Gambia and The Bahamas both say theirs have a 'The' - no-one else does
Holland does.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Halmyre said:
Still be Putin.
Very good!

MartynVRS

1,168 posts

210 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Shakermaker said:
P-Jay said:
Shakermaker said:
Am I correct in my belief that the fax machine remains popular in some businesses because the details being transferred cannot be interfered with where an email could be?

Where proof of a signature is needed, or credit card details, it is preferable to send that via fax than via email, is what I am led to believe.

As an example, on recently arranging a new mortgage for my house, we had to fax a few documents as they would not accept them via email.
Some parts of the NHS still use them a lot, because they're slow to change, no other reason.

Any business I know that wants 'original' signatures uses scan to e-mail, but then I don't work in finance / banking any more. Even the Japanese have joined in, with their famous hand-written proposals.

When I did work in finance / banking our 'new' CRM system that they rolled out in 2007 was based around faxes and barcodes, it was a horrible, horrible mess of a thing and a waste of money, a massive, massive pile of money, more than you think possible and that's without considering everyone who had to use the steaming pile of st had to devise their own complex work-arounds, but hey the same collective mind who bought that, also bought ABM Amro about the same time and brought the whole thing to it's needed. Faxes see, tool of the lunatic.
My understanding of the Japanese reason to still use the fax machine was because despite the nation being well known for its advanced tech, the majority of the population still worked in small businesses that didnt have enormous capital to spend on big IT systems, nor the real need to do so

But thanks to all replying to my question about their necessity elsewhere
The Japanese F1 coverage has a fax number you can send questions too so still popular, probably because as you say lots have it and it's low cost to use.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
The Gambia and The Bahamas both say theirs have a 'The' - no-one else does
Holland does.
The Holland? no

Koninkrijk der Nederlanden? no

like many other countries, people may add a 'the' but it's not part of the name of the country, we tend to add it when the name is actually a thing, or a physical feature 'the low countries', Ukraine means 'the borderlands'

in German it's even worse, there are feminine named countries, die Schweiz, die Türkei etc, masculine named countries, der Irak, der Libanon, plural places, die Niederlände, die USA (or die Vereinigte Staaten) - but don't mix up feminine 'die' with plural 'die' cos they change! - and neuter named ones, where you wouldn't use it at all, das Polen, das Malta

and then Republik is feminine too, so if you use that it'll become die Bundesrepublik Deutschland



Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 20th January 09:48

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Hugo a Gogo said:
walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
The Gambia and The Bahamas both say theirs have a 'The' - no-one else does
Holland does.
The Holland? no
Nice try.
How about putting "Netherlands" in a sentence without "The" in front of it?! smile

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Hugo a Gogo said:
walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
The Gambia and The Bahamas both say theirs have a 'The' - no-one else does
Holland does.
The Holland? no

Koninkrijk der Nederlanden? no

like many other countries, people may add a 'the' but it's not part of the name of the country, we tend to add it when the name is actually a thing, or a physical feature 'the low countries', Ukraine means 'the borderlands'

in German it's even worse, there are feminine named countries, die Schweiz, die Türkei etc, masculine named countries, der Irak, der Libanon, plural places, die Niederlände, die USA (or die Vereinigte Staaten) and neuter named ones, where you wouldn't use it at all, das Polen, das Malta
The Netherlands.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
walm said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
The Gambia and The Bahamas both say theirs have a 'The' - no-one else does
Holland does.
The Holland? no
Nice try.
How about putting "Netherlands" in a sentence without "The" in front of it?! smile
I visited the Netherlands, then I visited The Gambia

you see?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/14/n...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/desert-t20-challenge/c...

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-nethe...

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 20th January 09:55

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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It's down as simply Netherlands on Google maps, yet they have a town there called 'The Hague'. confused

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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its real name is " 's Gravenhage"

so it actually starts with a lone apostrophe, even weirder - or shortened to Den Haag

the Hague of the Count (Graaf) a hague is some sort of hedge/wood thing apparently

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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MartynVRS said:
Shakermaker said:
P-Jay said:
Shakermaker said:
Am I correct in my belief that the fax machine remains popular in some businesses because the details being transferred cannot be interfered with where an email could be?

Where proof of a signature is needed, or credit card details, it is preferable to send that via fax than via email, is what I am led to believe.

As an example, on recently arranging a new mortgage for my house, we had to fax a few documents as they would not accept them via email.
Some parts of the NHS still use them a lot, because they're slow to change, no other reason.

Any business I know that wants 'original' signatures uses scan to e-mail, but then I don't work in finance / banking any more. Even the Japanese have joined in, with their famous hand-written proposals.

When I did work in finance / banking our 'new' CRM system that they rolled out in 2007 was based around faxes and barcodes, it was a horrible, horrible mess of a thing and a waste of money, a massive, massive pile of money, more than you think possible and that's without considering everyone who had to use the steaming pile of st had to devise their own complex work-arounds, but hey the same collective mind who bought that, also bought ABM Amro about the same time and brought the whole thing to it's needed. Faxes see, tool of the lunatic.
My understanding of the Japanese reason to still use the fax machine was because despite the nation being well known for its advanced tech, the majority of the population still worked in small businesses that didnt have enormous capital to spend on big IT systems, nor the real need to do so

But thanks to all replying to my question about their necessity elsewhere
The Japanese F1 coverage has a fax number you can send questions too so still popular, probably because as you say lots have it and it's low cost to use.
I think the Japanese will be keen on it because of the relative simplicity of writing Japanese by hand, in comparison to trying to wrestle it into a computer.

I'm sure I've read the Japanese face enormous difficulties now and in the future, as 'typing' Japanese is soooo bloody difficult that it is acting as a brake on their economy.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Hugo a Gogo said:
I visited the Netherlands, then I visited The Gambia

you see?
Ah. I do now.
I have been doing it wrong.
Honestly thought the "The" was always capitalised!

dub16v

1,119 posts

141 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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walm said:
Ah. I do now.
I have been doing it wrong.
Honestly thought the "The" was always capitalised!
Probably missed this in the above, but there was a short piece on this on Radio 4 a few days ago.

Only two countries in the world have 'The' officially in their names: The Gambia and The Bahamas.

Interestingly (to me at least), one of the reasons for 'The' Gambia was because the government were concerned with the country getting mixed up with 'Zambia'.

/GeographyGeeking

ATTAK Z

10,993 posts

189 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Is there such a thing as a female chauvinist pig ?

Huff

3,150 posts

191 months

Friday 20th January 2017
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Yes, that's a misandrist, rather than a misogynist (= MCP)

Huff

3,150 posts

191 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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No such thing, if you're doing it right.
Or - about 5 past your bedtime.



What a strange question.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
What age do women become unattractive?
Are you thinking that when you get to 56 you're suddenly going to be homosexual?

AstonZagato

12,699 posts

210 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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talksthetorque said:
Funkycoldribena said:
What age do women become unattractive?
Are you thinking that when you get to 56 you're suddenly going to be homosexual?
Oh no. Only three years to go. Is there anything I should do to prepare?
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