Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

[FlyingMeeces]

Europa1 said:

Ships in dry dock - how do they paint the bits that are resting on the blocks?

Presumably, as when other bits of work need doing, the support points can be varied a bit?

[MBBlat]

FlyingMeeces said:

Europa1 said:

Ships in dry dock - how do they paint the bits that are resting on the blocks?

Presumably, as when other bits of work need doing, the support points can be varied a bit?

Only if you want a bent ship. The position of the dock blocks are dictated by the ships structure, and are pre calculated and drawn on a docking plan. There will usually be two positions marked, so you just vary which one you use each time so that the enire bottom gets covered. If there is significant fouling then its not unknown (but expensive) to re flood the dock & move the ship to the alternative position. The docking plan will normally also highlight all underwater openings or protrusions.

An example for a 50's US submarine http://www.maritime.org/tech/drawings/ss383docking...
Zoom in and read the notes on the right hand side.

[FlyingMeeces]

MBBlat said:

FlyingMeeces said:

Europa1 said:

Ships in dry dock - how do they paint the bits that are resting on the blocks?

Presumably, as when other bits of work need doing, the support points can be varied a bit?

Only if you want a bent ship. The position of the dock blocks are dictated by the ships structure, and are pre calculated and drawn on a docking plan. There will usually be two positions marked, so you just vary which one you use each time so that the enire bottom gets covered. If there is significant fouling then its not unknown (but expensive) to re flood the dock & move the ship to the alternative position. The docking plan will normally also highlight all underwater openings or protrusions.

An example for a 50's US submarine http://www.maritime.org/tech/drawings/ss383docking...
Zoom in and read the notes on the right hand side.

so what on EARTH do they do if there's a panel or a rivet or [insert appropriate bit of seagoing kit here] that needs repair or replacement and is indeed where the support bits are? Just accept it's a big job and do the switch at some point?

[walm]

FlyingMeeces said:

so what on EARTH do they do if there's a panel or a rivet or [insert appropriate bit of seagoing kit here] that needs repair or replacement and is indeed where the support bits are? Just accept it's a big job and do the switch at some point?

Perhaps they deliberately design the likely replacement bits away from the support bits?
And if there are two options for support then its incredibly unlikely BOTH options need replacement so you just set it up once such that you can do the repair unhindered, no?

[Halmyre]

walm said:

FlyingMeeces said:

so what on EARTH do they do if there's a panel or a rivet or [insert appropriate bit of seagoing kit here] that needs repair or replacement and is indeed where the support bits are? Just accept it's a big job and do the switch at some point?

Perhaps they deliberately design the likely replacement bits away from the support bits?
And if there are two options for support then its incredibly unlikely BOTH options need replacement so you just set it up once such that you can do the repair unhindered, no?

I'll bet it's just like Kwik-Fit. "Where's the fking jacking point, ah bugger it, that's close enough..."

[walm]

Halmyre said:

walm said:

FlyingMeeces said:

so what on EARTH do they do if there's a panel or a rivet or [insert appropriate bit of seagoing kit here] that needs repair or replacement and is indeed where the support bits are? Just accept it's a big job and do the switch at some point?

Perhaps they deliberately design the likely replacement bits away from the support bits?
And if there are two options for support then its incredibly unlikely BOTH options need replacement so you just set it up once such that you can do the repair unhindered, no?

I'll bet it's just like Kwik-Fit. "Where's the fking jacking point, ah bugger it, that's close enough..."

Ha! I am sure that is right.
Or just chuck the damn thing in a couple of slings off a crane. (Perhaps not the sub - but a boat, no probs.)

[Europa1]

MBBlat said:

FlyingMeeces said:

Europa1 said:

Ships in dry dock - how do they paint the bits that are resting on the blocks?

Presumably, as when other bits of work need doing, the support points can be varied a bit?

Only if you want a bent ship. The position of the dock blocks are dictated by the ships structure, and are pre calculated and drawn on a docking plan. There will usually be two positions marked, so you just vary which one you use each time so that the enire bottom gets covered. If there is significant fouling then its not unknown (but expensive) to re flood the dock & move the ship to the alternative position. The docking plan will normally also highlight all underwater openings or protrusions.

An example for a 50's US submarine http://www.maritime.org/tech/drawings/ss383docking...
Zoom in and read the notes on the right hand side.

Thanks!

[p1stonhead]

Mikes2k said:

Six Injured As Explosion Rips Through Home
http://news.sky.com/story/six-injured-as-explosion...

How would you go about fixing a house that has been wrecked by a gas explosion when said house is in a row of terrace houses. What happens to the neighbouring properties

Edited by Mikes2k on Tuesday 9th August 11:15

If the houses either side wont stand up on their own something like this;

[Jonboy_t]

I quite fancy winning an Olympic medal (), what sport could a slightly overweight bloke in his early thirties get into and still stand a chance?

Am thinking something along the lines of hammer/shot, on account of being big/strong already (insert PH cliché here), which i imagine is kind of a prerequisite, but how would you get into that kind of thing?

[FlyingMeeces]

Jonboy_t said:

I quite fancy winning an Olympic medal (), what sport could a slightly overweight bloke in his early thirties get into and still stand a chance?

Am thinking something along the lines of hammer/shot, on account of being big/strong already (insert PH cliché here), which i imagine is kind of a prerequisite, but how would you get into that kind of thing?

Local athletics/track & field club and away you go!

Mind you if you got seriously into anything odds are you'd not stay slightly overweight for long…

[Halmyre]

Jonboy_t said:

I quite fancy winning an Olympic medal (), what sport could a slightly overweight bloke in his early thirties get into and still stand a chance?

Am thinking something along the lines of hammer/shot, on account of being big/strong already (insert PH cliché here), which i imagine is kind of a prerequisite, but how would you get into that kind of thing?

Here you go:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/36984887

[SpeckledJim]

Jonboy_t said:

I quite fancy winning an Olympic medal (), what sport could a slightly overweight bloke in his early thirties get into and still stand a chance?

Am thinking something along the lines of hammer/shot, on account of being big/strong already (insert PH cliché here), which i imagine is kind of a prerequisite, but how would you get into that kind of thing?

Archery.

[Jonboy_t]

Cheers chaps,I will remember you all when I'm a rich and famous athlete.

[Nimby]

Jonboy_t said:

I quite fancy winning an Olympic medal

Try eBay.

[FlyingMeeces]

Jonboy_t said:

Cheers chaps,I will remember you all when I'm a rich and famous athlete.

I'm what they call a 'legacy' athlete - I started my (Paralympic) sport after, and as a direct result of, the London games.

Not doing badly although it's a long ladder and I'm only a couple of rungs up so far.

Race you to 2024?

[Jonboy_t]

FlyingMeeces said:

Jonboy_t said:

Cheers chaps,I will remember you all when I'm a rich and famous athlete.

I'm what they call a 'legacy' athlete - I started my (Paralympic) sport after, and as a direct result of, the London games.

Not doing badly although it's a long ladder and I'm only a couple of rungs up so far.

Race you to 2024?

2024? It only gives me 6 1/2 hours to practice, but I'll have a crack

What's your sport?

[FlyingMeeces]

Jonboy_t said:

2024? It only gives me 6 1/2 hours to practice, but I'll have a crack

What's your sport?

I play boccia, one of the handful of sports which don't have an Olympic counterpart - it's a target ball sport, bit like bowls/boules/pétanque etc, where the aim is to get yours closer to the target than the other guy's/team's. It was invented for people too severely impaired to have a shot in other proper competitive sport, there are three classifications for people who can throw the ball onto the court (same size as a badminton court), and one for those of us who can't throw and roll it down a ramp/chute instead, adjusting for direction, speed, playing surface etc.

I started right after 2012, joined a serious club a few months later, got a place at the regional athlete academy this year. It's cool being in a small sport, everyone knows everyone and the vast majority are not macho idiots.

Local governing body: https://bocciaengland.org.uk/boccia/

So what are you thinking of - seriously shot? I think quite a lot of people do both. We've got a kid at the boccia club who's too strong for boccia - wouldn't be allowed to compete in serious competitions - his folks have been looking at shot/javelin/club/hammer throw as possible alternatives, but they're out in the sticks a bit and the options aren't great.

[MissChief]

Surely you should be looking at shooting or archery? Don't need to be fit as such to do those.

[Jonboy_t]

FlyingMeeces said:

I play boccia, one of the handful of sports which don't have an Olympic counterpart - it's a target ball sport, bit like bowls/boules/pétanque etc, where the aim is to get yours closer to the target than the other guy's/team's. It was invented for people too severely impaired to have a shot in other proper competitive sport, there are three classifications for people who can throw the ball onto the court (same size as a badminton court), and one for those of us who can't throw and roll it down a ramp/chute instead, adjusting for direction, speed, playing surface etc.

I started right after 2012, joined a serious club a few months later, got a place at the regional athlete academy this year. It's cool being in a small sport, everyone knows everyone and the vast majority are not macho idiots.

Local governing body: https://bocciaengland.org.uk/boccia/

So what are you thinking of - seriously shot? I think quite a lot of people do both. We've got a kid at the boccia club who's too strong for boccia - wouldn't be allowed to compete in serious competitions - his folks have been looking at shot/javelin/club/hammer throw as possible alternatives, but they're out in the sticks a bit and the options aren't great.

Nice one Thinking seriously about shot or hammer. Without trying to sound like a pratt, I am quite a strong bloke already and do weights at the gym everyday (I do sound like a pratt there...!) so would like to use something i already have and just improve on it.

MissChief - fitness isn't so much of an issue, could always be better, but is certainly not bad. Just a bit of a fatty

[anonymous-user]

Why did Russell and Lily have to be taken away from us?