Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]
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Flicking through the TV channels at the weekend stumbled on BBC Proms.
Now I'll be honest the music is absolutely not my cup of tea however it did get me thinking and expose my ignorance.
The events are billed with XYZ Conductor and ABC orchestra. What is the objective (for want of a better term) of the performance?
Is it to make the music as authentic as possible as near and accurate to the original score, or is it just another cover version...e.g. Soft Cell does ACDC Greatest Hits?
Now I'll be honest the music is absolutely not my cup of tea however it did get me thinking and expose my ignorance.
The events are billed with XYZ Conductor and ABC orchestra. What is the objective (for want of a better term) of the performance?
Is it to make the music as authentic as possible as near and accurate to the original score, or is it just another cover version...e.g. Soft Cell does ACDC Greatest Hits?
BristolRich said:
Is it to make the music as authentic as possible as near and accurate to the original score, or is it just another cover version...e.g. Soft Cell does ACDC Greatest Hits?
Mostly the former.Sometimes you have an "arrangement" where it's true to the original to an extent but played on different instruments or shortened or just slightly tweaked because you only have 8 violins not the required 10 etc...
Cover versions always WANT to be different whereas the orchestral pieces want to be as close to the original as possible (usually).
However, since we don't have many original recordings of pieces conducted or played by the composer, there is always SOME interpretation necessary. But you wouldn't call it a "cover" since that interpretation could be the right one, we just don't know.
BristolRich said:
Flicking through the TV channels at the weekend stumbled on BBC Proms.
Now I'll be honest the music is absolutely not my cup of tea however it did get me thinking and expose my ignorance.
The events are billed with XYZ Conductor and ABC orchestra. What is the objective (for want of a better term) of the performance?
Is it to make the music as authentic as possible as near and accurate to the original score, or is it just another cover version...e.g. Soft Cell does ACDC Greatest Hits?
In the same way that AC/DC may give their own interpretation of a Soft Cell song, so each Orchestra performs its own interpretation of a piece of music written by a composer, with the conductor controlling what that interpretation is. Much of the job fo the conductor is done before the actual performance.Now I'll be honest the music is absolutely not my cup of tea however it did get me thinking and expose my ignorance.
The events are billed with XYZ Conductor and ABC orchestra. What is the objective (for want of a better term) of the performance?
Is it to make the music as authentic as possible as near and accurate to the original score, or is it just another cover version...e.g. Soft Cell does ACDC Greatest Hits?
Unlike pop/rock, different interpretations are not instantly obvious and requires a certain level of insight to 'get' which is why some Classical Music fans will sell body parts to go to a performance of Beethoven's 5th performed by the London Philharmonic but wouldn't payer a fiver to see the Birmingham Symphony Orchestra perform the same piece - even though they are very bit as good at the London Philharmonic.
StevieBee said:
On modern cars, why is it becoming increasingly necessary to depress the clutch, hold the brake, touch your nose and scratch your ear, before being able to fire the thing up?
Starter buttons - too easy to hit by accident, or for someone else to press. Keys which have to be turned are harder to engage accidentally.marshalla said:
Starter buttons - too easy to hit by accident, or for someone else to press. Keys which have to be turned are harder to engage accidentally.
This makes sense except with an automatic. My car when in park still demands I have my foot on the brake pedal before I can press the start button. Surely in park that's unnecessary? djc206 said:
marshalla said:
Starter buttons - too easy to hit by accident, or for someone else to press. Keys which have to be turned are harder to engage accidentally.
This makes sense except with an automatic. My car when in park still demands I have my foot on the brake pedal before I can press the start button. Surely in park that's unnecessary? marshalla said:
djc206 said:
marshalla said:
Starter buttons - too easy to hit by accident, or for someone else to press. Keys which have to be turned are harder to engage accidentally.
This makes sense except with an automatic. My car when in park still demands I have my foot on the brake pedal before I can press the start button. Surely in park that's unnecessary? With just one button you need a second input to differentiate.
StevieBee said:
Unlike pop/rock, different interpretations are not instantly obvious and requires a certain level of insight to 'get' which is why some Classical Music fans will sell body parts to go to a performance of Beethoven's 5th performed by the London Philharmonic but wouldn't payer a fiver to see the Birmingham Symphony Orchestra perform the same piece - even though they are very bit as good at the London Philharmonic.
I know nothing about classical music, but this is confusing.If you have enough "insight", would you notice that the London Philharmonic is actually better than the Birmingham Symphony Orchestra? Or do they change the music somehow to make it more valuable than the Birmingham Symphony Orchestra's version?
Or are they genuinely as good? In which case are the members of the London Philharmonic like... celebrities?
They're all just doing cover versions so if they're equally good I don't get why it makes a difference which one you listen to.
R E S T E C P said:
In which case are the members of the London Philharmonic like... celebrities?
They're all just doing cover versions so if they're equally good I don't get why it makes a difference which one you listen to.
I am no classical-buff but I think that's it, yes.They're all just doing cover versions so if they're equally good I don't get why it makes a difference which one you listen to.
A bit like why you want to hear The Stones live rather than a recording or a musically perfect cover version by The Strolling Bones.
walm said:
marshalla said:
djc206 said:
marshalla said:
Starter buttons - too easy to hit by accident, or for someone else to press. Keys which have to be turned are harder to engage accidentally.
This makes sense except with an automatic. My car when in park still demands I have my foot on the brake pedal before I can press the start button. Surely in park that's unnecessary? With just one button you need a second input to differentiate.
Perhaps this should be in the annoying adverts thread, but that short in between programmes on Sky Atlantic, there's a guy eating what I assume to be noodles, the counter staff puts a napkin on the counter, and the bloke dunks it in his noodles and soup. What's going on there? Of course it could be obvious if paid more attention, but usually fast forwarding through the ads.
FiF said:
Perhaps this should be in the annoying adverts thread, but that short in between programmes on Sky Atlantic, there's a guy eating what I assume to be noodles, the counter staff puts a napkin on the counter, and the bloke dunks it in his noodles and soup. What's going on there? Of course it could be obvious if paid more attention, but usually fast forwarding through the ads.
I'd like to know this as I too can't afford to expend the energy to watch a 20 second commercial
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