Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

[FlyingMeeces]

SilverSixer said:

Why am I supposed to sprinkle my shop-bought naan breads with water before putting them in the oven/under the grill? I've done it with and without the water and can't tell any difference.

Is it not just to keep them moist enough to still be warmed bread at the end rather than crunchy toast?

[SilverSixer]

FlyingMeeces said:

SilverSixer said:

Why am I supposed to sprinkle my shop-bought naan breads with water before putting them in the oven/under the grill? I've done it with and without the water and can't tell any difference.

Is it not just to keep them moist enough to still be warmed bread at the end rather than crunchy toast?

Well this is it. I have done it with and without water and it makes no difference. I leave them for the recommended time and I get warm bread either way.

[FlyingMeeces]

SilverSixer said:

FlyingMeeces said:

SilverSixer said:

Why am I supposed to sprinkle my shop-bought naan breads with water before putting them in the oven/under the grill? I've done it with and without the water and can't tell any difference.

Is it not just to keep them moist enough to still be warmed bread at the end rather than crunchy toast?

Well this is it. I have done it with and without water and it makes no difference. I leave them for the recommended time and I get warm bread either way.

Maybe you've just got more finesse with your oven than most of us do. Mine cremates everything, given half a chance - you have to watch it like a hawk!

[Halmyre]

FlyingMeeces said:

SilverSixer said:

FlyingMeeces said:

SilverSixer said:

Why am I supposed to sprinkle my shop-bought naan breads with water before putting them in the oven/under the grill? I've done it with and without the water and can't tell any difference.

Is it not just to keep them moist enough to still be warmed bread at the end rather than crunchy toast?

Well this is it. I have done it with and without water and it makes no difference. I leave them for the recommended time and I get warm bread either way.

Maybe you've just got more finesse with your oven than most of us do. Mine cremates everything, given half a chance - you have to watch it like a hawk!

Adding water creates steam and gives it a moist heat.

[austinsmirk]

It must cost millions each weekend for the Police to police football grounds, the streets and so on.

Do the clubs actually pay for this ? Or (angry taxpayer mode) am I paying for it through my tax/council tax etc ?

If so, can I opt out of it because I don't like football and couldn't care less if the red team beat up the blue team.

[Bluedot]

austinsmirk said:

It must cost millions each weekend for the Police to police football grounds, the streets and so on.

Do the clubs actually pay for this ? Or (angry taxpayer mode) am I paying for it through my tax/council tax etc ?

If so, can I opt out of it because I don't like football and couldn't care less if the red team beat up the blue team.

From what i have always understood, clubs pay the costs for the Police inside the stadium, the Police pick up the bill (pardon the pun) for those deployed outside.

[SpeckledJim]

Bluedot said:

austinsmirk said:

It must cost millions each weekend for the Police to police football grounds, the streets and so on.

Do the clubs actually pay for this ? Or (angry taxpayer mode) am I paying for it through my tax/council tax etc ?

If so, can I opt out of it because I don't like football and couldn't care less if the red team beat up the blue team.

From what i have always understood, clubs pay the costs for the Police inside the stadium, the Police pick up the bill (pardon the pun) for those deployed outside.

And in some cases the police know they have the clubs completely over a barrel and take the piss on the price and the hours and the numbers of police required.

[paul_y3k]

in the case of the Swindon vs Bristol game ...
The original game was cancelled due to weather.
When the game was rescheduled the fans had to repay for tickets, apparently to pay for the policing again ...

[Bluedot]

paul_y3k said:

in the case of the Swindon vs Bristol game ...
The original game was cancelled due to weather.
When the game was rescheduled the fans had to repay for tickets, apparently to pay for the policing again ...

Seriously ? Was the game postponed before kick off ?
I've never heard of clubs charging supporters to pay again should a match be postponed prior to kick off.

[SilverSpur]

227bhp said:

SilverSpur said:

Stonehenge

Even the experts don't really know how and why,

So you thought you'd ask on a motoring forum just incase?

I didn't ask anyone anything my friend. I simply stated a subject that I've always wanted to know the answer about. I know that no on one PH knows the answer, as NO ONE KNOWS the answer to the Stonehenge questions. No one knows how it was built, although many have suggested some theories, and no one knows why it was built, although again there are theories. But they are just theories, there are no cast iron facts.

[SilverSpur]

glazbagun said:

227bhp said:

SilverSpur said:

Stonehenge

Even the experts don't really know how and why,

So you thought you'd ask on a motoring forum just incase?

What the fk is a stone henge? (NSFWobviously)

Great song. No one plays with my balls when I'm thinking about Stonehenge though....

[Shakermaker]

Bluedot said:

austinsmirk said:

It must cost millions each weekend for the Police to police football grounds, the streets and so on.

Do the clubs actually pay for this ? Or (angry taxpayer mode) am I paying for it through my tax/council tax etc ?

If so, can I opt out of it because I don't like football and couldn't care less if the red team beat up the blue team.

From what i have always understood, clubs pay the costs for the Police inside the stadium, the Police pick up the bill (pardon the pun) for those deployed outside.

I believe that the club also contribute to some of the cost of those outside the grounds as well, up to a certain point. Was all being argued on the news a few years ago when one club or other was moving grounds I think and into a new police zone.

[schmunk]

Leeds United had a ding-dong with the Police about costs a few years ago: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-2169900...

[AstonZagato]

ozzuk said:

Einion Yrth said:

I've been earning a living in various fields of software development/IT for 34 years. I have a degree in German and Lingustics and have never had any formal education in IT/software development/programming/network support or any of the host of other jobs in the field I've been employed to do.

Odd, innit?

We've dismissed a number of people globally for lying about qualifications on CV so it can happen!

We fired a chap for lying on his CV. It was a stupid lie. I don't recall it exactly (he didn't work for me directly) but it was something odd like claiming he went to Bristol rather than Exeter. It was irrelevant to the role and we would have hired him if he'd told the truth. However, having found out he'd lied he was instantly fired. Can't have dishonesty.

[AstonZagato]

SpeckledJim said:

And in some cases the police know they have the clubs completely over a barrel and take the piss on the price and the hours and the numbers of police required.

I seem to recall that Henley Royal Regatta kept getting larger and larger bills from the police for stewarding the event. This seemed to involve a few coppers on motorbikes at key junctions to direct traffic and a few bobbies wandering about.

One year, HRR refused to pay it and employed their own stewards at a fraction of the price. There was no difference and the traffic flowed even better. I think the coppers rather missed their overtime and the genteel days by the river because they dropped the price after a few years.

[Europa1]

AstonZagato said:

SpeckledJim said:

And in some cases the police know they have the clubs completely over a barrel and take the piss on the price and the hours and the numbers of police required.

I seem to recall that Henley Royal Regatta kept getting larger and larger bills from the police for stewarding the event. This seemed to involve a few coppers on motorbikes at key junctions to direct traffic and a few bobbies wandering about.

One year, HRR refused to pay it and employed their own stewards at a fraction of the price. There was no difference and the traffic flowed even better. I think the coppers rather missed their overtime and the genteel days by the river because they dropped the price after a few years.

They need to send the coppers up the towpath on Friday and Saturday night to control the underage drinking carnage that goes on!

[SilverSpur]

AstonZagato said:

We fired a chap for lying on his CV. It was a stupid lie. I don't recall it exactly (he didn't work for me directly) but it was something odd like claiming he went to Bristol rather than Exeter. It was irrelevant to the role and we would have hired him if he'd told the truth. However, having found out he'd lied he was instantly fired. Can't have dishonesty.

I don't know your industry sector so cant comment directly on your policy for instant dismissal for dishonesty, however....

I'd rather have an employee that I could tell was lying rather than one that I couldn't. If you think people don't lie about things then you are crazy. People lie all the time. Mostly small inconsequential lies, or maybe even being dishonest by not saying something. I work in IT outsourcing and management lie constantly and consistently to both employees and customers, and to each other. No one is truly open and honest. I've worked in other businesses and its true across the board.

But yes saying something stupid on your CV would rule you out for being stupid, not for lying. If you think anyone's cv is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, you're not being honest with yourself. Lies can be outright, or they can be exaggerations, embellishments, or 'deliberate mistakes'. For example, I had a guy that told me he had a certain qualification that I knew had 'timed out' and was no longer valid. It was no longer current. When I questioned him about it he said he was aware that it was no longer current and that it had lapsed, but was convinced he was right to put it on his CV. He wasn't just lying to the job market he was lying to himself. I told him that all he needed to do was mark it as 'not current' or 'retired' and then that would be an honest list of qualifications.

People always 'big themselves up' on CV's. Obviously, saying you went to university when you didn't is obviously fraudulent in the level of dishonesty and is suitable for instant dismissal if a reason for dismissal is being sought.

My favourite lie on a CV? "I always give 100%". Both dishonest and stupid. I don't want any employee always giving 100% for a start.

[SpeckledJim]

AstonZagato said:

SpeckledJim said:

And in some cases the police know they have the clubs completely over a barrel and take the piss on the price and the hours and the numbers of police required.

I seem to recall that Henley Royal Regatta kept getting larger and larger bills from the police for stewarding the event. This seemed to involve a few coppers on motorbikes at key junctions to direct traffic and a few bobbies wandering about.

One year, HRR refused to pay it and employed their own stewards at a fraction of the price. There was no difference and the traffic flowed even better. I think the coppers rather missed their overtime and the genteel days by the river because they dropped the price after a few years.

WRT to football, because of all the history and sensitivity to looming hordes of hooligans, the police get to play judge and jury on the 'threat level' and the resulting costs are astronomical.

We are always reading about the crisis that is lack of police head-count, but they never struggle to find bobbies to work the football.

Not unusual for a football club to spend more on police than they take on the away gate. They would be better off closing their away end.

[AstonZagato]

SilverSpur said:

I don't know your industry sector so cant comment directly on your policy for instant dismissal for dishonesty, however....

Financial services. We are regulated. One of the requirements is that you are a "fit and proper person". A barefaced lie on your CV counts you out instantly.

SilverSpur said:

If you think people don't lie about things then you are crazy.

I'm not crazy. I know that everything that is said is one person's spin on their view of the world. Especially when it comes to CVs. However, when dealing with other people's money honesty is important. To outright lie (as opposed to embellishing the truth) is unforgivable. This chap claimed he had a different academic qualification to the one he'd actually earned. That's a bit different to referring to yourself as, say, a "Thermal Insulating Technician" when working as a pipe lagger.

SilverSpur said:

But yes saying something stupid on your CV would rule you out for being stupid, not for lying.

The other reason he had to go. He was stupid enough to lie about something that we would check and that would be caught and that was unimportant to us employing him. We don't want stupid people any more than we want dishonest ones.

[anonymous-user]

AstonZagato said:

...referring to yourself as, say, a "Thermal Insulating Technician" when working as a pipe lagger.

Snobtastic. So going by that logic,

AstonZagato said:

Financial services.

means checkout girl?



(Just kidding)