Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

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FiF

44,226 posts

252 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Vipers said:
Can someone tell me sky channels for BBC1 & BBC2 in London.

I am in Aberdeen and need to know please, cheers guys.
BBC1 London is 954
BBC1 South East is 963
Don't see a regional BBC2 apart from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland versions.

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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austinsmirk said:
I can guarantee if you have named your child Jaxon, Kyal, Barclay, Shaniqua, Sienna, Ayrton, Shelby, Lulabelle- they'll have some special medical definition to explain their dreadful behaviour.
Indeed.
Sienna Miller. Medically, smoking hot. Let's her get away with murder no doubt. cloud9

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

147 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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I don't mind Brazilians being called Ayrton.

fomb

1,402 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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R E S T E C P said:
Even if my child had a condition like dyslexia, I would refuse to let him be labelled. If you struggle with something then you have to work harder - what's the point of opting out with "I can't achieve much but it's OK because I have a certificate saying it's harder for me".
One of my kids, like my brother, has severe dyslexia. Getting them diagnosed officially is the best thing that happened to both of them. Once there is a diagnosis they get extra help at school, extra time in exams, all sorts of things that other kids don't get. By having a proper diagnosis both have done better than they ever could have done alone without help.

Telling your kid to work harder will achieve nothing with proper dyslexia. It's like telling someone in a wheelchair to just try a bit harder at standing up.

R E S T E C P

660 posts

106 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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fomb said:
R E S T E C P said:
Even if my child had a condition like dyslexia, I would refuse to let him be labelled. If you struggle with something then you have to work harder - what's the point of opting out with "I can't achieve much but it's OK because I have a certificate saying it's harder for me".
One of my kids, like my brother, has severe dyslexia. Getting them diagnosed officially is the best thing that happened to both of them. Once there is a diagnosis they get extra help at school, extra time in exams, all sorts of things that other kids don't get. By having a proper diagnosis both have done better than they ever could have done alone without help.

Telling your kid to work harder will achieve nothing with proper dyslexia. It's like telling someone in a wheelchair to just try a bit harder at standing up.
I did say afterwards that it's different in England and Scotland (where I am). In Scotland a label shouldn't make any difference, especially in primary school (where many are labelled). If you need extra support then you are entitled to it whether you have a label or not.

I agree 100% with your last paragraph. Traditionally/officially there was no such distinction as "severe" dyslexia. Dyslexia is a severe condition and as you know can benefit greatly from specialist help. You can't be a bit dyslexic any more than you can be a bit pregnant. But there are loads of parents these days explaining their child's poor academic performance as "mild dyslexia". My opinion is that it makes a mockery of a serious condition.

Maybe the condition should be split into mild/severe grades so priority can be given to helping genuine cases like your brother/child.

fomb

1,402 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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R E S T E C P said:
You can't be a bit dyslexic any more than you can be a bit pregnant.
True, but there are definitely different severities. I've met people who just cannot process text on a page, but also others that just have trouble on the maths side, or parsing complex written instruction. IMO from a schooling point of view though, it should be a boolean. You are, or are not dyslexic.

Vipers

32,917 posts

229 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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FiF said:
Vipers said:
Can someone tell me sky channels for BBC1 & BBC2 in London.

I am in Aberdeen and need to know please, cheers guys.
BBC1 London is 954
BBC1 South East is 963
Don't see a regional BBC2 apart from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland versions.
Thank you.

klmhcp

247 posts

93 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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fomb said:
R E S T E C P said:
You can't be a bit dyslexic any more than you can be a bit pregnant.
True, but there are definitely different severities. I've met people who just cannot process text on a page, but also others that just have trouble on the maths side, or parsing complex written instruction. IMO from a schooling point of view though, it should be a boolean. You are, or are not dyslexic.
I wouldn't worry fomb, restecp's opinion is based on nothing other than how he's decided to see things.

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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R E S T E C P said:
You can't be a bit dyslexic any more than you can be a bit pregnant.
Yet...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia
Second line, "Different people are affected to varying degrees."

From the National Institute of Health in the US.
But sure... you know better.

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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walm said:
R E S T E C P said:
You can't be a bit dyslexic any more than you can be a bit pregnant.
Yet...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia
Second line, "Different people are affected to varying degrees."

From the National Institute of Health in the US.
But sure... you know better.
Indeed, i have dysgraphia, specifically poor fine motor control, so i am almost completely unable to write by hand, i can do it but it's really on the level of a 4/5 year old in shape and spacing, it takes me an incredibly long time to write anything if i want someone else to be able to read it (IRO 2-3 words per minute) this also applies to drawing and copying text.
Whereas someone with dyslexia will also have a form of dysgraphia that typically means their writing is poorly legible when written spontaneously but when it's copied directly from another source the letter formation and spacing is somewhere approaching average.

If you were to look at a piece of writing i copied and the same that a dyslexic person had copied you would say they had mild dysgraphia because it doesn't look that bad when in actual fact it's only good because they copied it.

Equally i do see your point that you're saying there's over diagnosis, it's definitely something i've seen, typically it's not a wrong diagnosis but rather they are classed as more disabled than they really are, be it due to pressure from the parents, poor testing or some other incentive.

Edited by Silent1 on Wednesday 11th January 18:51

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Suppose the Anglo Saxons, or at least the Angles, had never come to Britain but decided to go somewhere with a better climate. Would England still exist but somewhere else? Could we be driving on the left and drinking room temperature beer somewhere on the cote d'azur or on the coast of the Aegean?

Bit of a missed opportunity if so.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Dr Jekyll said:
Suppose the Anglo Saxons, or at least the Angles, had never come to Britain but decided to go somewhere with a better climate. Would England still exist but somewhere else? Could we be driving on the left and drinking room temperature beer somewhere on the cote d'azur or on the coast of the Aegean?

Bit of a missed opportunity if so.
Every time it gets a bit chilly I think we should have moved the whole country to a nice corner of India while we had the opportunity.

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

147 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Dr Jekyll said:
Suppose the Anglo Saxons, or at least the Angles, had never come to Britain but decided to go somewhere with a better climate. Would England still exist but somewhere else? Could we be driving on the left and drinking room temperature beer somewhere on the cote d'azur or on the coast of the Aegean?

Bit of a missed opportunity if so.
As long as we still ended up speaking English, with all the AONB, historically interesting things, monuments, castles, cathedrals, etc I'd be happy with that.
But change one thing and we'd be completely different than how we are now.

Brother D

3,743 posts

177 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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What possible advantage is there to flat roofs? I stayed with friends recently and they have a flat roof which has a lip about an inch high all the way round and it just had a layer of water (and ice) on it for the entire time I was there. I just don't see how not having even a slight slope can be beneficial? Why wouldn't you want water to drain away?

glazbagun

14,285 posts

198 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Brother D said:
What possible advantage is there to flat roofs? I stayed with friends recently and they have a flat roof which has a lip about an inch high all the way round and it just had a layer of water (and ice) on it for the entire time I was there. I just don't see how not having even a slight slope can be beneficial? Why wouldn't you want water to drain away?
In arid climates it lets you walk around on the roof and is probably cooler as the sun will have less to hit.

No idea why you'd want it in Britain!

glazbagun

14,285 posts

198 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Dr Jekyll said:
Suppose the Anglo Saxons, or at least the Angles, had never come to Britain but decided to go somewhere with a better climate. Would England still exist but somewhere else? Could we be driving on the left and drinking room temperature beer somewhere on the cote d'azur or on the coast of the Aegean?

Bit of a missed opportunity if so.
I don't think so. I have nothing to back it up, but I reckon the British (especially English) class structure has a lot to do with a bunch of posh Frenchies coming over and ruling the locals with their new fancy language that only the educated could understand. And before that a bunch of Romans coming to our mud huts and sending our best and brightest over to Rome to see what life was really about.

I think our class struggles have probably defined a lot about how we've worked out. The vikings could have turned us into Denmark but for the Normans and southerners.

Having said that, I guess all that was after the Angles came here. It could have been Picts, or whatever the Welsh had kicking around that were dominant but if the Normans still triumphed in 1066, then I guess all of the above would still happen. So the Anglo-Saxons might not have made a Britain elsewhere, but the UK may have been inevitable due to it's geography.

RammyMP

6,794 posts

154 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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glazbagun said:
Brother D said:
What possible advantage is there to flat roofs? I stayed with friends recently and they have a flat roof which has a lip about an inch high all the way round and it just had a layer of water (and ice) on it for the entire time I was there. I just don't see how not having even a slight slope can be beneficial? Why wouldn't you want water to drain away?
In arid climates it lets you walk around on the roof and is probably cooler as the sun will have less to hit.

No idea why you'd want it in Britain!
Cheap to build

Brother D

3,743 posts

177 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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RammyMP said:
glazbagun said:
Brother D said:
What possible advantage is there to flat roofs? I stayed with friends recently and they have a flat roof which has a lip about an inch high all the way round and it just had a layer of water (and ice) on it for the entire time I was there. I just don't see how not having even a slight slope can be beneficial? Why wouldn't you want water to drain away?
In arid climates it lets you walk around on the roof and is probably cooler as the sun will have less to hit.

No idea why you'd want it in Britain!
Cheap to build
Granted, but surely it can't cost any more to put a tiny slope on it?

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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interesting views

glazbagun said:
or whatever the Welsh had kicking around that were dominant
that would be the Britons!

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Wednesday 11th January 2017
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Brother D said:
RammyMP said:
glazbagun said:
Brother D said:
What possible advantage is there to flat roofs? I stayed with friends recently and they have a flat roof which has a lip about an inch high all the way round and it just had a layer of water (and ice) on it for the entire time I was there. I just don't see how not having even a slight slope can be beneficial? Why wouldn't you want water to drain away?
In arid climates it lets you walk around on the roof and is probably cooler as the sun will have less to hit.

No idea why you'd want it in Britain!
Cheap to build
Granted, but surely it can't cost any more to put a tiny slope on it?
How do you slope the wall edges that support the roof for no extra cost?


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